Second Ebola patient in Dallas?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's been real. Unfortunately the zero in the White House hasn't gotten there.

When I saw the "anthrax protocol" being implemented on the two who were brought here for observation and treatment, it appeared "serious," but Mr. Denial was still trying to make everyone believe he had everything under control. Like this shit was JV, TOO!

His MO is to lie, deceive, marginalize, and deflect blame.

Do you remember the John Denver song.... "The Box"?

If I may take some liberty with it:

Once upon a time, in the land of Hush-A-Bye, around about the wondrous days of yore, they came across a kind of box, bound up with chains and locked with locks and labeled "Kindly do not touch; it's EBOLA."

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Put them in the Kansas Mountains with LittleEva. Leave the rest of Kansas alone.

spoken like a true first nation. Where did you immigrate from dull knife?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

If Kansas tolerates you, I'm not interested in spending much time there.

Thank you, anyway.

We don't want you whiners, you did understand the statement didn't you? Or you brain dead?

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

No flights here from Texas....

Watch out for the mountains when flying into Kansas...

[IIFFOFRDB]

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Finally. A funny post from banjo boy.

Will wonders never cease?

[Guest032516]

Well, according to the updated article, it looks like the CDC has confirmed Ebola in the nurse. The first positive test was late Saturday (yesterday).

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

Key quote:
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"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta conducted testing on the blood sample, and confirmed the results Sunday, marking the first known transmission of Ebola in the United States and the second diagnosis in the country."
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If a nurse wearing protective gear got it, you wonder how his family members avoided it before he was isolated from them.

This quote is also worrisome:
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Also, Varga said that someone who is a "close contact" of the nurse has been "proactively" placed in isolation.
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It looks like the boyfriend or husband of the nurse has been isolated.

[CuteOldGuy]

This is a time when it would be nice if our leaders had a history of telling us the truth. Since you (generally speaking) have repeatedly elected known liars to office, there is no way to know for sure how serious this is. Is the government going to try to protect us, or control us? We really don't know.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

It's quite obvious Obama wants Americans to experience hardship. This is a guy who claims to be born in America, but clearly doesn't act like an American.

Jim

You see, that's your mistake. You expect him to act like an American. He is a citizen of the world. Completely different mindset.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You tick turds do remember he flew in from Brussels don't you? Plus lying on the form.

Which has nothing to do with "policy". The policy of allowing people from flying into the US from these African countries. The policy of keeping an open border. The policy of waiting until the weekend to put some safeguards in place.

Duncan's actions merely highlight how poor Obama's policies are.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

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If a nurse wearing protective gear got it, you wonder how his family members avoided it before he was isolated from them.

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Strange isn't it? Supposedly Duncan had two days at the apt where he was extremely sick and puking all over the place.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

This is a time when it would be nice if our leaders had a history of telling us the truth. Since you (generally speaking) have repeatedly elected known liars to office, there is no way to know for sure how serious this is. Is the government going to try to protect us, or control us? We really don't know.

Supposedly this disease is "self extinguishing." The prior outbreaks they finally quarantined off the area and didn't let anyone out until they either died or survived and infection period passed. Even the medical staff. It was enforced by the military. Of course, this is the height of political incorrectness.

[Guest092216]

Goddamn. You fuckers can turn just about anything into a political pissing match.

So much so that you COMPLETELY miss the point - and wouldn't know a solution if it shat in your face.

First of all, its Thomas Duncan, not Michael Duncan.

Of all the people who can't remember a name they read repeatedly over the course of two weeks, you'd think you know-it-all jokers could get it right. Or at least notice when someone else got it wrong.

Second of all, the fit isn't gonna hit the shan. After all the possible infections over the last two weeks and the only case to have been reported (and self-reported within 90minutes of onset even) is a medically trained caregiver who was aware of what she was looking for. I'd say that is pretty good.

This has nearly played itself out and it was handled well all in all. No plan is full-proof until put into practice and even then fuck ups happen. Two cases in three weeks??? I call that a win.

As far as stopping them from traveling, good luck with that. We can't even stop people from traveling here uninvited. At least we have a chance to check them for signs of illness the way it is. The guy did lie on his questionnaire in Liberia. Had he told the truth he would not have been allowed to fly.

You guys that get shit so twisted up and lose track of the real situation need to get some help from trained professionals. Seriously.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Finally. A funny post from banjo boy.

Will wonders never cease?

Now that's funny, lol.

Jim

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Goddamn. You fuckers can turn just about anything into a political pissing match.

So much so that you COMPLETELY miss the point - and wouldn't know a solution if it shat in your face.

First of all, its Thomas Duncan, not Michael Duncan.

Of all the people who can't remember a name they read repeatedly over the course of two weeks, you'd think you know-it-all jokers could get it right. Or at least notice when someone else got it wrong.

Second of all, the fit isn't gonna hit the shan. After all the possible infections over the last two weeks and the only case to have been reported (and self-reported within 90minutes of onset even) is a medically trained caregiver who was aware of what she was looking for. I'd say that is pretty good.

This has nearly played itself out and it was handled well all in all. No plan is full-proof until put into practice and even then fuck ups happen. Two cases in three weeks??? I call that a win.

As far as stopping them from traveling, good luck with that. We can't even stop people from traveling here uninvited. At least we have a chance to check them for signs of illness the way it is. The guy did lie on his questionnaire in Liberia. Had he told the truth he would not have been allowed to fly.

You guys that get shit so twisted up and lose track of the real situation need to get some help from trained professionals. Seriously.

You do realize the incubation period is 21 days right? That means people won't start showing symptons until three weeks after contracting the illness. He became asymptomatic about the 24th of September. So we have to wait (and anyone trying to comfort you that no one has come down with anything yet is lying to you) until about tomorrow or the next day to see.

As for his name, I have never called him by the wrong name and I'm not going to stoop (unlike some people) over a small error and miss the main argument.

The real situation? He lied? Of course he lied, what do you expect. How about those kids in Texas with beards who say that they are only 15 years old and want into our country, tattoos and all? People lie and the system should take that into account. What you don't say is that they have the capability of knowing exactly where and when someone boards an international flight in this world. They should have had the means and the orders to backcheck everyone flying today. The computer can automatically flag someone's origin point just like they can tell if you got on the plane without luggage.

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You do realize the incubation period is 21 days right? That means people won't start showing symptons until three weeks after contracting the illness. He became asymptomatic about the 24th of September. So we have to wait (and anyone trying to comfort you that no one has come down with anything yet is lying to you) until about tomorrow or the next day to see.

As for his name, I have never called him by the wrong name and I'm not going to stoop (unlike some people) over a small error and miss the main argument.

The real situation? He lied? Of course he lied, what do you expect. How about those kids in Texas with beards who say that they are only 15 years old and want into our country, tattoos and all? People lie and the system should take that into account. What you don't say is that they have the capability of knowing exactly where and when someone boards an international flight in this world. They should have had the means and the orders to backcheck everyone flying today. The computer can automatically flag someone's origin point just like they can tell if you got on the plane without luggage.

The incubation period can last up to 21 days. Its typically anywhere from one to two weeks, which is why the nurse who cared for him started showing signs as early as Friday. Its why Duncan started showing signs on the Sept 25th, nine days after he helped transport the pregnant Liberian woman with Ebola to and from the hospital prior to his travel here.

As for travel, you are missing the point I'm making on trying to block west Africans from flying out of Africa. First of all, in more advanced countries, like Spain and the US, we have shown and will continue to show that Ebola can be successfully contained.

In a few months, this will no longer be an Ebola problem, this will be an West African problem and why a few countries there can't seem to control it.

My point on travel is that you cannot 100% control everyone who enters a country. When you drive things UTR there is more chance for everyone's safety and wellbeing bc nothing is being monitored the way it should and people who fear law enforcement will hide with their sickness rather than report it. If Duncan had managed to enter the states illegally, I doubt he would have so easily gone to the hospital when he first started feeling ill. His family would have tried to hide him and we would actually be looking at the possibility of a real outbreak in Dallas. Immigrants come in from Mexico every day and have been for decades (despite whoever was president). People travel here all the time without permission. Hell they could even start coming in from Canada if they wanted too. Best to keep it monitored and legal if only for the benefit of public health.