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Old 01-01-2018, 08:28 AM   #16
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are you are aware that the noko launched a I think 2 satellites in orbit? if they can do that, they can get their missile to go where they want it to go, maybe not with pinpoint accuracy, but it would be enough.
I really didn't want to shatter his fantasy with details, but the next to the last missile was outputting telemetry data, which was intercepted and tracked by the U.S./S.K. systems.

It's been a while since I bought and launched any "bottle rockets," but I'm pretty sure the ones I had didn't have telemetry output and/or tracking sequences at launch and enroute!

The reason why "we" are where "we" are is because of continued minimizing and marginalizing the scientific capabilities of the NK nuclear and missile technology and engineers. Same with Iran.

It was minimized and marginalized so the POTUS wouldn't have to do shit about it ... and that's how "we" got here!

It's like AssUp saying there are no sharks off Galveston Beach! Except he's just arguing for the sake of arguing ... he doesn't really have a business down there to justify lying about it! But the tourism industry DOES!
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:42 AM   #17
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They haven’t launched any guided missles yet. They’re certainly headed that way. Who knows how close they are. For now, they’re shooting bottle rockets.
LOL easy to see you aren't a rocket scientist.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:45 AM   #18
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They haven’t launched any guided missles yet.
Sir, are you familiar with the first suborbital launch by the U.S. of a manned "space craft"? It was basically a controlled launch with a pre-set trajectory that put the "space craft" into a path that landed within so many kilometers from an intended landing zone.

Thirty plus years ago I saw a science fair project by a Kentucky 11th grader who built a camera/photo rocket with an ejection pod with a parachute attached to softly land the camera with pictures in it of a chase rocket he also built to launch after the primary rocket, which took pictures of the chase rocket being launched and approaching the ass-end of the primary rocket. It took 2nd place in Kentucky that year. 11th grader! And in those days there were no KITS for such a project!

For years! NK has been sharing knowledge with Iran (and other countries). The hype/bullshit is just that. So "we" won't have to do anything about it.

You remember 911? Here's your man John Kerry!!!!

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...11/lkl.00.html

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KING: Senator Kerry did your -- did you committee on international opertions and terrorism ever actually fear something like this?

SEN. JOHN KERRY (R), MASSACHUSETTS: Absolutely. Absolutely.

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We have always known this could happen. We've warned about it. We've talked about it. I regret to say, as -- I served on the Intelligence Committee up until last year. I can remember after the bombings of the embassies, after TWA 800, we went through this flurry of activity, talking about it, but not really doing hard work of responding.
Now in the year 2000 ... did you know that? NO!
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:24 AM   #19
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LOL easy to see you aren't a rocket scientist.
Neither are you, or anyone else on this board.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:32 PM   #20
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Neither are you, or anyone else on this board.
I know the difference between a guided missile and a rocket, you don't.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:51 PM   #21
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I really didn't want to shatter his fantasy with details, but the next to the last missile was outputting telemetry data, which was intercepted and tracked by the U.S./S.K. systems.

It's been a while since I bought and launched any "bottle rockets," but I'm pretty sure the ones I had didn't have telemetry output and/or tracking sequences at launch and enroute!

The reason why "we" are where "we" are is because of continued minimizing and marginalizing the scientific capabilities of the NK nuclear and missile technology and engineers. Same with Iran.

It was minimized and marginalized so the POTUS wouldn't have to do shit about it ... and that's how "we" got here!

It's like AssUp saying there are no sharks off Galveston Beach! Except he's just arguing for the sake of arguing ... he doesn't really have a business down there to justify lying about it! But the tourism industry DOES!
caveat: the quality of their missile tech isn't that great. they appear to have quality control problems. they have a lot of missile failures at launch.

the bottle rocket analogy is poor. they were at that point testing to see how far the missile can go by shooting straight up.

they were going to shoot this particular missile near Guam until they were talked out of doing it by china.

they have shot few previous models over japan.

they certainly have the capability to control the direction of their rocket. the targeting ability is going to be as just as bad as the 1950's - 1960's icbms were.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:49 PM   #22
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caveat: the quality of their missile tech isn't that great. they appear to have quality control problems. they have a lot of missile failures at launch.

the bottle rocket analogy is poor. they were at that point testing to see how far the missile can go by shooting straight up.

they were going to shoot this particular missile near Guam until they were talked out of doing it by china.

they have shot few previous models over japan.

they certainly have the capability to control the direction of their rocket. the targeting ability is going to be as just as bad as the 1950's - 1960's icbms were.
The bottle rocket analogy is accurate:

http://www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth...081545433.html

They do fire them fairly vertical and they aren’t sophisticated enough yet to accurately guide them. Which makes them fairly useless as a military weapon. Many of their missiles pinwheeled into the ocean upon re entry. You have to control that angle.

Their latest missle that was tested is thought to employ a gimbal system which is a modern way to guide missles. They never used it before.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...e-is-a-monster
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:55 PM   #23
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I know the difference between a guided missile and a rocket, you don't.
Sure you do. You next handle should be Rocket Man.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:11 AM   #24
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Sure you do. You next handle should be Rocket Man.
Yours should be dumb fuck. Oh wait it is.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:20 AM   #25
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Yours should be dumb fuck. Oh wait it is.
Rocket Lenny. Hey Lenny, most missles are powered by rockets.
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:33 AM   #26
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Rocket Lenny. Hey Lenny, most missles are powered by rockets.
Just for you clusterfuck, read up so you may know the diff between a guided missile and a bottle rocket.

http://rocketsciencebooks.com/books/...es-propulsion/
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Dog rocket?
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:40 AM   #28
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Just for you clusterfuck, read up so you may know the diff between a guided missile and a bottle rocket.

http://rocketsciencebooks.com/books/...es-propulsion/
North Korea hasn’t demonstrated that they have a guided ICBM worth a shit yet you fucking idiot.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/nort...ccuracy-2017-9

Read this link retard. They shoot their missles almost “straight” up you retard. They fall where they fall. You fucking moron.
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all missiles shoot straight up.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:25 PM   #30
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all missiles shoot straight up.
They can’t effectively guide them yet Dilbert. Did you read the links or do I have to paste some portions of it for you? My analogy to bottle rocks was meant to have some humor in it. But you shoot them straight up and really don’t control where they land. They might calculate a general area. Just like a bottle rocket. You light the fuse, it shoots straight up, and it lands. Unguided. Our missles are guided. They’re pretty precise too. We’ve been at it for over 50yrs. We have GPS, advanced gimbal systems to guide them. The last missle they launched, the Hwasong15, is believed to have a gimbal system. It would be the first one. Nobody knows for sure. To suggest North Korean ICBMs are as sophisticated as ours is a faulty comparison. NoKo is closer to bottle rockets.


Here’s another link for you and Rocket Lenny to read:


https://amp.businessinsider.com/nort...overfly-2017-8
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