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03-20-2015, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Nov 26, 2010
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Prove that, you deluded fucking liar.
Where did anybody say that anybody should be allowed to falsify SSNs?
You're lying again and again, Whir-LIE-turd. Shame on you, nut job!
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What do you call the endless posting of lies, spin and "editorialization" spewing from Yssup's forward facing dick-port ?
I call it
SPERM
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03-20-2015, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Prove that, you deluded fucking liar.
Where did anybody say that anybody should be allowed to falsify SSNs?
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Did he post that?
I thought he posted ....
"... these illegals are claiming benefits using phony/stolen social security numbers."
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03-20-2015, 02:03 PM
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#18
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
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Cut AssUp some slack; he can't read and he can't comprehend what is written...........
Only a dunce would claim that fake/stolen SS numbers aren't being used by illegals filing tax returns.
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Did he post that?
I thought he posted ....
"... these illegals are claiming benefits using phony/stolen social security numbers."
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03-20-2015, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Apr 7, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Your Snopes link is regarding some "bonus" bullshit......
The vote that took place (see video) was to close a tax loophole that made illegals qualify for Child Tax Credits.
You post a link that has nothing to do with the vote that took place in yesterday's Budget Committee meeting.
Your link is a weak attempt to deflect with something irrelevant.
Both the Treasury Inspector General and the liberal Politifact have determined that the Tax Loophole exists.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/st...-support-bill/
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As usual, you are a lying, misrepresenting piece of shit. I guess your foaming at the mouth hatred of anybody that is not white, fat and republican gets the better of you sometimes.
Link please supporting your direct statement that "billions" of dollars are being paid out to illegal immigrants.
Also, kindly address the issue as to why it would be that these horrible terrible people might be eligible to claim a deduction? Could it be because....egads.....they are filing income tax returns? Which means they are paying into the system? In addition to paying sales tax, gasoline tax, and every other kind of tax that all the rest of us pay on a day to day basis?
You are a mouthbreathing idiot.
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03-20-2015, 03:43 PM
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Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by timpage
Complete bullshit.
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Not "complete bullshit"!
There are a staggering number of people who are claiming to be "not" married, when they actually are, and they file separate returns as single with one of them claiming "single head of household" and getting the benefit of "tax credits" and getting not only their contributions back by a "credit" on top of it.
The IRS is claiming because of budget cuts it lacks the manpower to monitor and audit the taxpayers to stop the practice, and to verify that the individuals are actually the persons issued the SS #.
Now whether the total amounts to billions or a billion may be an estimate based on a % of those taxpayers identified, rather than a to-the-penny audit. For your additional information there are at least some instances when state court judges "look the other way" to the practice and so do some assistant state attorney's general when they are collecting child support.
It is tax fraud, and the cases are not "isolated." BTW some of the franchise tax prep businesses are cranking out those returns... and loaning against them.
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03-20-2015, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by timpage
Could it be ....
In addition to paying sales tax, gasoline tax, and every other kind of tax that all the rest of us pay on a day to day basis?
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You are "assuming" those same people show at the same stores at which you shop, and have a vehicle into which they can put gasoline, and own property upon which the local agencies can assess a tax.
How many times have you paid at a restaurant and the cashier leaves the register open during the transactions before you and yours (and those behind you if you watch)? How many times have you bought food at a "farmer's market"?
Why is it that "we" cannot round up all those "illegal aliens" and return them home? Is it because "we" lack the transportation? The facility to process them? Or is it "we" simply don't know who or where they are?
I'm not questioning your background or experience, but if you have spent much time with migrant workers and/or "illegal aliens" talking and listening to them you will realize how "off the grid" these folks are. Barter and cash.
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03-25-2015, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Prove that, you deluded fucking liar.
Where did anybody say that anybody should be allowed to falsify SSNs?
You're lying again and again, Whir-LIE-turd. Shame on you, nut job!
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There is one thing I agree with. Do not allow illegals to tax our system. How will we do that. I have no idea. For decades, Hispanics have taxed the system by having babies here. The children get welfare, and I believe it's quite a lot in California. One reason why California is bankrupt. Getting better since marijuana was legalizied.
Especially, when their boyfrends work for cash and they build homes, and buy property, all under the table. We need to put a limit on these benefits. The children should never suffer. What I am talking about is a time limit for illegals to either get a paying job or leave the country. Have them, fess up. Believe me, I am not against safety nets, but they need to be controlled and benefit the Americans that were born here. Our safety nets should benefit Americans who have paid into the system, not illegals.
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03-25-2015, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
What part of "illegal" don't they understand?
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I have seen "illegals" live better than me, even when I am working and paying taxes. This is not fair. I am against illegals coming into this country and getting better health care than I do, even though I work. It's easy, all they have to do is have a baby here and that baby gets welfare. I think for four or five kids in California or Texas, for that matter, is quite a bit. Around $200 for each kid, or five kids, equals $2,000 per month, without working, just for having kids. Let's put a time limit on welfare for illegal single mothers.
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03-25-2015, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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Per usual, the same handful of cement headed RWWipes are making claims based on their perception of the situation.
Links are bullshit. Story is bullshit.
The rest of xenophobia.
NEXT!
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03-25-2015, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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But Seeking Truth, I thought you were in Highland Park?
If you're making less than an "illegal" baby mill, $2000 per month as you say, then what the fuck are you doing on a whooker board?
The intellectual dishonesty is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
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03-25-2015, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Not "complete bullshit"!
There are a staggering number of people who are claiming to be "not" married, when they actually are, and they file separate returns as single with one of them claiming "single head of household" and getting the benefit of "tax credits" and getting not only their contributions back by a "credit" on top of it.
The IRS is claiming because of budget cuts it lacks the manpower to monitor and audit the taxpayers to stop the practice, and to verify that the individuals are actually the persons issued the SS #.
Now whether the total amounts to billions or a billion may be an estimate based on a % of those taxpayers identified, rather than a to-the-penny audit. For your additional information there are at least some instances when state court judges "look the other way" to the practice and so do some assistant state attorney's general when they are collecting child support.
It is tax fraud, and the cases are not "isolated." BTW some of the franchise tax prep businesses are cranking out those returns... and loaning against them.
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LINK from the "not completely bullshit" site, LLIdiot? You sure seem to be an authority on this ... So much so that you don't even think you need to back it up with credible numbers.
Obviously, you're much more positive about this than you are about the geography of my hometown.
Or are you?
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03-25-2015, 09:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Here.
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No bullshit about this link.............the report title says it all...
TREASURY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR TAX ADMINISTRATION
RECOVERY ACT
Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to
Work in the United States Were Paid
$4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits
July 7, 2011
Reference Number: 2011-41-061
https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/audit...01141061fr.pdf
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03-25-2015, 11:19 AM
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#29
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Join Date: May 20, 2010
Location: Wichita
Posts: 28,730
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
No bullshit about this link.............the report title says it all...
TREASURY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR TAX ADMINISTRATION
RECOVERY ACT
Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to
Work in the United States Were Paid
$4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits
July 7, 2011
Reference Number: 2011-41-061
https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/audit...01141061fr.pdf
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This is insane.
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03-25-2015, 03:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 10, 2011
Location: Rochester
Posts: 5,587
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Originally Posted by SeekingTruth
I have seen "illegals" live better than me, even when I am working and paying taxes. This is not fair. I am against illegals coming into this country and getting better health care than I do, even though I work. It's easy, all they have to do is have a baby here and that baby gets welfare. I think for four or five kids in California or Texas, for that matter, is quite a bit. Around $200 for each kid, or five kids, equals $2,000 per month, without working, just for having kids. Let's put a time limit on welfare for illegal single mothers.
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Then you should have a major problem with the way the Obama Adm has handled immigration. Of course, most Reps don't truly want to fix the problem either. A lot of bark and little bite when it comes to the GOP on this matter.
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