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Jackie S · 03-06-2013, 10:12 AM

Just another two bit pandering polititian who bought votes by promising to "take from them and give to you". Seems to be a lot of that going around.

satexasguy · 03-06-2013, 10:13 AM

He favored the poor by taking away everything from the rich and giving it to the poor. Their money is worthless. He forced many companies that had American ties to be shut down. I know lots of VZ's that are happy he croaked.

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

But the Democrats LIKE Chavez!

WTF · 03-06-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

WTF is going to his funeral.

Only for the free pussy!

TheDaliLama · 03-06-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Only for the free pussy!

That makes sense.

Dead pussy is the only free pussy you ever get.

At least no one will ever Out you.

BigLouie · 03-06-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

At long last the Venezuelan people have chance at freedom.

You of all people should know that is not possible. Before him the rich and powerful were totally corrupt which made everyone really rich or really poor. Under Hugo he ruined the oil industry and the economy to give money to the poor. Pretty soon that whole country is going in the dimpster

wellendowed1911 · 03-06-2013, 08:10 PM

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You of all people should know that is not possible. Before him the rich and powerful were totally corrupt which made everyone really rich or really poor. Under Hugo he ruined the oil industry and the economy to give money to the poor. Pretty soon that whole country is going in the dimpster

You are absolutely correct- God will have to judge Chavez- but for the record Chavez did more for the poor people of his nation than did any other President in any other nation did for their own poor.
The reason people like JD are making these dumb ass insensitive remarks it's because Chavez had the balls to fight back against American imperialism- if he were a stooge he would have let Exxon control Valenzuela's oil. Has anyone noticed that the U.S tends to make enemies or demonize leaders who are not pro-U.S business??
Valenzuela is an example. When the Taliban were in power they (taliban) stopped the building of a natural gasline that would have had to been drom Saudia Arabai and had to go through Afghanistan and it would have been financed by you guess it Haliburton.

CuteOldGuy · 03-06-2013, 09:38 PM

WE, Fernando Valenzuala was a pretty good pitcher for the Dodgers for a short time, but he is from Mexico, and as far as I can tell, he has nothing to Chavez or the oil industry.

WTF · 03-06-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

That makes sense.

Dead pussy is the only free pussy you ever get.

At least no one will ever Out you.

Dead pussy don't talk back.

Way quieter than all that bleating you have to listen to!

Chica Chaser · 03-06-2013, 11:21 PM

Houston Saturday nights at the club?

CuteOldGuy · 03-06-2013, 11:25 PM

I'm still wondering why we're discussing Valenzuala in a thread about Venezuela?

acp5762 · 03-06-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

You are absolutely correct- God will have to judge Chavez- but for the record Chavez did more for the poor people of his nation than did any other President in any other nation did for their own poor.
The reason people like JD are making these dumb ass insensitive remarks it's because Chavez had the balls to fight back against American imperialism- if he were a stooge he would have let Exxon control Valenzuela's oil. Has anyone noticed that the U.S tends to make enemies or demonize leaders who are not pro-U.S business??
Valenzuela is an example. When the Taliban were in power they (taliban) stopped the building of a natural gasline that would have had to been drom Saudia Arabai and had to go through Afghanistan and it would have been financed by you guess it Haliburton.

What did Chavez do for the poor? Besides is it so terrible to be poor? There will always be poor just as there will always be rich people. Don't you think a person should first be content with who they are rather than what they have? I think world leaders should give their people a sense of value for their contributions rather than their wealth.

CuteOldGuy · 03-06-2013, 11:56 PM

Chavez gave the change that fell from his pocket after he made sweetheart deals for himself to the poor. And took away their rights. And created a huge dependent class to insure he would stay in power.

Hmmm . . . I wonder if any other world leaders are following that example?

JD Barleycorn · 03-07-2013, 01:37 AM

Chavez suffered so much for his people that he amassed a $2 billion fortune after he nationalized BRITISH oil companies. Everybody remember what Vuvuzela meant to the world.

Old-T · 03-07-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by acp5762

Besides is it so terrible to be poor? There will always be poor just as there will always be rich people. Don't you think a person should first be content with who they are rather than what they have? I think world leaders should give their people a sense of value for their contributions rather than their wealth.

Yes, it really is terrible to be poor. Most of the time we throw the word "poor" around stupidly. It doesn't mean your house needs a coat of paint, you don't have cable, and your car is beat up.

But when you are truly talking poor:
--You watch your kids starve night after night with nothing to eat, but the flies and parasites are literally eating them
--You live in a tent or box or sleeping bag and have raw sewage running past you within smelling distance
--You get told to "just move" but have no transportation other than your feet and back, and there are essentially no employers within 50 miles
--You are told any job that pays a livable wage requires being eduacted (at whatever level) but YOU and "those like you" cannot get into the schools because of your ethnic background
--When preventable diseases ravage the community because the cost of the immunization is half a year's salary

Yes, that kind of poor is pretty terrible. Somehow I don't think people in that situation give one damn for a "sense of value for their contributions" I suspect they are far more concerned with staying alive and having the hope their kids will live to be adults.

acp5762 · 03-07-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Yes, it really is terrible to be poor. Most of the time we throw the word "poor" around stupidly. It doesn't mean your house needs a coat of paint, you don't have cable, and your car is beat up.

But when you are truly talking poor:
--You watch your kids starve night after night with nothing to eat, but the flies and parasites are literally eating them
--You live in a tent or box or sleeping bag and have raw sewage running past you within smelling distance
--You get told to "just move" but have no transportation other than your feet and back, and there are essentially no employers within 50 miles
--You are told any job that pays a livable wage requires being eduacted (at whatever level) but YOU and "those like you" cannot get into the schools because of your ethnic background
--When preventable diseases ravage the community because the cost of the immunization is half a year's salary

Yes, that kind of poor is pretty terrible. Somehow I don't think people in that situation give one damn for a "sense of value for their contributions" I suspect they are far more concerned with staying alive and having the hope their kids will live to be adults.

What you described is an extreme example of what it is to be poor. But what can any leader really do for the poor. Even if the Government gave every poor person a thousand dollars a week, they would still be poor.