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Old 07-03-2012, 09:08 AM   #16
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LOL, Chica! They can't even distort what I say to make themselves look good like they usually do on this one.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:07 AM   #17
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This has been going on for 20 years,and just now is news?
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:06 AM   #18
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An average of 1.5 million jobs per year, as opposed to 100K over 3.5? That is recent, Ekim. And that is the Obama legacy.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:06 PM   #19
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Yes, that's right. Since President Obama took office, approximately 100,000 jobs have been added to the US economy, according to the Social Security Administration.

Are you fucking kidding me?

After trillions of dollars of "stimulus", endless hyperbole and mountains of lies, we added only 100,000 jobs? This is a recovery? This is a "good" record? This is effective government?

From the article:

When President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, there were 142,187,000 people employed and 7,442,377 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled about 1 person taking disability payments for each 19.1 people actually working.


In May of this year, there were 142,287,000 people employed, and 8,707,185 workers taking federal disability payments. That equaled 1 worker taking disability payments for each 16.3 people working.

In 1992 there were 118,419,000 people working in the US. That means that between 1992 and 2009, about 25,000,000 jobs were added. That's about 1.5 million jobs added per year. During the Obama administration, that is about, oh, say, 30,000 per year? Really? And you clowns want to re-elect this guy?

God help us.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/8733...-new-york-city



49 MILLION jobs were lost during the recession, that recession carried well into 2009 .... if your numbers are correct, then the president made up the 49 million jobs lost and added 100,000 in 2 1/2 years ...


dont cry cf, NOTHING is as bad as you do your damndest to make it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #20
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Where were the jobs lost? The figures don't support your conclusion, CBJ7, not that it ever mattered to you.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:15 PM   #21
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Where were the jobs lost? The figures don't support your conclusion, CBJ7, not that it ever mattered to you.

where? dunno. ask the BLS
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #22
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Month.... Total Jobs Jobs lost/gained Private Jobs Prvt Jobs lost/gained Gov't Jobs Govt Jobs lost/gained Jan 2011 130,456+110,000108,207+119,00022,249-9,000Feb.130,676+220,000108,464+257,00022,212-37,000March130,922+246,000108,725+261,00022,197-15,000April131,173+251,000108,989+264,00022,184-13,000May131,227+54,000109,097+108,00022,130-54,000June131,311+84,000109,199+102,00022,112-18,000July131,407+96,000109,374+175,00022,033-79,000August131,492+85,000109,426+52,00022,066+33,000Sept.131,694+202,000109,642+216,00022,052-14,000Oct.131,806+112,000109,781+139,00022,025-27,000Nov.131,963+157,000109,959+178,00022,004-19,000Dec.132,186+223,000110,193+234,00021,993-11,000Jan 2012132,461+275,000110,470+277,00021,991-2,000Feb 2012132,720+259,000110,724+254,00021,996+5,000Mar 2012132,863+143,000110,871+147,00021,992-4,000Apr 2012132,940+77,000110,958+87,00021,982-10,000May 2012133,009+69,000111,040+82,00021,969-13,000
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And that adds up to 40,000,000? Add a math class to your comprehension program. The SSA deals with hard numbers. The BLS is statistics, which means, they guess.

Sorry, CBJ7, you are simply wrong this time. Take your classes and come back when you've learned something.

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Old 07-03-2012, 01:28 PM   #24
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And that adds up to 40,000,000? Add a math class to your comprehension program. The SSA deals with hard numbers. The BLS is statistics, which means, they guess.

Sorry, CBJ7, you are simply wrong this time. Take your classes and come back when you've learned something.



here ya go sport ... this dude-ette is no Obie fan, just a numbers gurl ..


  • <LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0.25em; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Obama was inaugurated in January 2009 when the economy was in free fall and we were losing about 700,000 jobs a month. Over 4,400,000 jobs were lost before Obama took office. <LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0.25em; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The employment situation did not bottom out until late 2009 or early 2010. An additional 4,300,000 jobs were lost between the time that Obama took office and the bottom ("trough") of the recession. <LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0.25em; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">That's a total job loss of at least 8,700,000 jobs over approximately 2 years. <LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0.25em; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Since the economy started to add jobs under Obama, 3,165,000 jobs have been added using seasonally-adjusted numbers (See below). <LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0.25em; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Since the economy started to add jobs under Obama, 2,954,000 jobs have been added using "real" unadjusted numbers.
  • We still need many more jobs to overcome the loss of jobs that started in 2008 and to make up for the increase in population since 2008. Please remember that over 49,000,000 people were laid off between Spring of 2008 and the end of 2009.

How did you come up with these numbers? Why isn't there one number instead of all of these?



Counting jobs or workers is very tricky. In seasonal numbers, we have still lost more jobs and workers in the first year of Obama's administration, when the economy was struggling to pull out of recession, than we have gained during the second and third years of Obama's administration when we have experienced job growth. We are still running a jobs/workers deficit of up to 1,500,000 in seasonally-adjusted numbers since Obama took office.


Job growth was brisk in the first months of 2011, slowed down towards the middle of the year, then picked up during the last months of the year. However, job growth, particularly private sector job growth, continued throughout 2011. We now have 23 months of private sector job growth.


There's usually no one number that explains everything, and most monthly numbers need to be seen as "trends", not absolutes. People use the unemployment rate, but even that can vary for so many reasons that don't really reflect the true state of the labor market.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:34 PM   #25
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Hard numbers, versus a guess. Take the class, please. You'll feel better.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:40 PM   #26
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Hard numbers, versus a guess. Take the class, please. You'll feel better.

cant read?


48 million people were laid off between spring of 08 and end of 09 ...


take a comprehension class ...
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:45 PM   #27
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You didn't post a link. I think I know why.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:12 PM   #28
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arrrrgggghhhh

its from a numbers freak the best I can tell ... compares jobs waaaaaaay back appearing to be totally non partisan


lemme go back and find it ... link commander
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:15 PM   #29
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http://mollysmiddleamerica.blogspot....ated-lost.html


there, go fucking learn something
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:20 PM   #30
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Even she shows a net loss. Pathetic picture. Still, the SSA deals in hard numbers. Nice try, though.
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