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06-17-2011, 09:02 PM
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Here's my 2 cents. A lot of the "live" webcam girls also have pre-taped videos that one can watch. I think one angle would be to produce videos and put them on their website just like pictures. Those would be free. She could then offer a live webcam session for a very nominal "teaser" fee in the ball park of $20. If the guy likes the live webcam session and then books for a real date, then the $20 is taken off the regular donation. If the guy doesn't book, the gal keeps the $20 and everyone goes their separate ways. I don't think there is any real way to prevent fake live sessions from happening other than to out a provider who operates in this manner. Trust me, bad reviews will kill any ladies business, so she'd have to think long and hard about bait and switch. Also, it would be kinda hard to find someone to do your live webcam sessions that involve sexual contact. Probably would cost more than it is worth. I actually like the idea of providers having videos (pre-made) as well as live webcam sessions.
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06-17-2011, 09:21 PM
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Here's my 2 cents. A lot of the "live" webcam girls also have pre-taped videos that one can watch. I think one angle would be to produce videos and put them on their website just like pictures. Those would be free. She could then offer a live webcam session for a very nominal "teaser" fee in the ball park of $20. If the guy likes the live webcam session and then books for a real date, then the $20 is taken off the regular donation. If the guy doesn't book, the gal keeps the $20 and everyone goes their separate ways. I don't think there is any real way to prevent fake live sessions from happening other than to out a provider who operates in this manner. Trust me, bad reviews will kill any ladies business, so she'd have to think long and hard about bait and switch. Also, it would be kinda hard to find someone to do your live webcam sessions that involve sexual contact. Probably would cost more than it is worth. I actually like the idea of providers having videos (pre-made) as well as live webcam sessions.
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I really like that idea? It's only a matter of time before this goes mainstream in the hobby community.
For me the excitment would build just watching the teaser of the providers web cam video. It would make me want to book a real session with her.
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06-17-2011, 11:48 PM
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How is that any different if you upset a guy and he does things with the pics you post...or his wife finds your profile & pics. What is different?
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The photos I post don't show my face or any feature of my body that a person could look at and say, "OMG that's Jane Doe (real name)."
I don't see the video "teasers" to become mainstream in the hobby. A provider doesn't have the time to make 15 different videos a week for guys who might book with her and I know you guys would start whining if she put up a generic video that everyone would see. You'd whine because it wasn't personal and everyone is getting the same thing as you.
You want a tease......book a session, sit in a chair and watch her play with herself in person and then after a few minutes......join her for an hour or so of fun.
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06-18-2011, 07:14 AM
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The photos I post don't show my face or any feature of my body that a person could look at and say, "OMG that's Jane Doe (real name)."
I don't see the video "teasers" to become mainstream in the hobby. A provider doesn't have the time to make 15 different videos a week for guys who might book with her and I know you guys would start whining if she put up a generic video that everyone would see. You'd whine because it wasn't personal and everyone is getting the same thing as you.
You want a tease......book a session, sit in a chair and watch her play with herself in person and then after a few minutes......join her for an hour or so of fun.
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Well that explains the towel thing! Making guys watch, get them all hot and sweaty!
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06-18-2011, 08:22 AM
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Well that explains the towel thing! Making guys watch, get them all hot and sweaty!![Lmfao](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/lmfao.gif)
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I'm going shopping for more towels today too.
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06-18-2011, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MsElena
The photos I post don't show my face or any feature of my body that a person could look at and say, "OMG that's Jane Doe (real name)."
I don't see the video "teasers" to become mainstream in the hobby. A provider doesn't have the time to make 15 different videos a week for guys who might book with her and I know you guys would start whining if she put up a generic video that everyone would see. You'd whine because it wasn't personal and everyone is getting the same thing as you.
You want a tease......book a session, sit in a chair and watch her play with herself in person and then after a few minutes......join her for an hour or so of fun.
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Let's just say that years from now that more Providers offered Web Cam sessions & most hobbyist considered it the norm...would you just lose sells because you did not want to change with the times?
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06-18-2011, 09:30 AM
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Well, if its years from now......I won't be in the business. After I'm done with my PhD program, I'm done. But, if I was to be in the business years from now, yes I would lose clients.
Lets just say for sake of argument that it does become very popular, not every lady is going to offer it. There are tons of ladies who are HDH who don't show their face now because they need to be discrete and they still get business. There's tons of ladies who aren't HDH who don't show their face (like me) and still get business. We'll still get business no matter what. There's always going to be the men who value discretion and wanting to have the real thing in their hands instead of sitting in front of a computer.
There'll be too many guys out there who'll say, "oh I want to book a session with you. Can I see your video?" and then he doesn't book because he jacked off while watching the video and had no real intention of booking to begin with. If I were to make a video of me playing with myself as a teaser video, it'd cost a lot more than 20 bucks and no, I wouldn't take it off the session fee. The session fee is just that, for the real in life session. If I'm putting myself together for a video, that's a different entity and a different fee.
Some people seem to forget that discretion is a huge part of this lifestyle. What chick out there wants a video of herself saying, "Hey, I'm an escort or hooker or whatever word you wish to use. Choose me!!"????
You seem to be skipping over the fact that in a webcam teaser, it can be recorded. It could end up on hundreds of sites, people could use it to blackmail or just be plain evil and use it to try to ruin a person. It just doesn't happen to celebrities.
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06-18-2011, 09:47 AM
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Ms E, I suspect you would do just fine whether you followed the "main stream" advertizing approach or not. There are amny UTR and low-key ladies who have built up a very good following based upon their persona and some word of mouth.
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06-18-2011, 04:16 PM
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I do webcam shows, they're 50 for the hour, which is less than $1 a minute.. I find it a great tool to use because guys can see me and talk to me live. I get to know what they like and what turns them on, and sometimes a look at the junk. I think that its a great precursor to a session. They are non recorded, live sessions.
As far as the video teasers, if I did do one it would be way more lowkey than me masturbating or naked. I think that the cute ones work better than the raunchy ones.
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06-18-2011, 05:04 PM
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Wouldn't mind watching a provider masturbating and teasing leading up to a scheduled session. Would I pay for the session, NO!! Once she started asking for money for web cam session, I would have to pass on her for the session and the actual date. In my mind, she's only after the money.
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Shaking my head. Sigh.
There are a lot of women who make their living working with cam sessions. There is a well known escort in Dallas that does this all of the time. Does she charge for it? You betcha.
If a guy is going to get all excited and do God knows what while watching this woman, which would seem to me to be normal, then why would you NOT wish to compensate her?
I have been begged to do a webcam type of thing. One guy even offered, years ago before they were built into computers, to buy one for me. Gee thanks ... buying me a $20 cam so I can speak to him and tease him online.
I know that there are women who will flirt with guys online like that, but to me, it would be a colossal waste of time. It reminds me of when I discovered IM'ing with men and thought that it would really attract clients.
In the end, the summer that I spent IM'ing for hours on end was a lesson in wasted effort. Guys loved it but doing that never did translate very well into appointments.
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06-18-2011, 05:15 PM
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I do webcam shows, they're 50 for the hour, which is less than $1 a minute.. I find it a great tool to use because guys can see me and talk to me live. I get to know what they like and what turns them on, and sometimes a look at the junk. I think that its a great precursor to a session. They are non recorded, live sessions.
As far as the video teasers, if I did do one it would be way more lowkey than me masturbating or naked. I think that the cute ones work better than the raunchy ones.
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I'm glad that it works out for you? I would love to see more providers to web cam sessions.
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06-18-2011, 06:34 PM
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unless im missing something here..Isnt that the reason we are in the hobby?
we are tired of paying tons of money at the strip joints to get a handjob and god knows who she did in front of you.
Are you are getting it on with a cam model at $3 a min to jerk yourself off when you can be with a real woman in the hobby for $200 hr.
do the math and see where you come out better..course i guess its all preferences but id rather share my time with a real woman for 1 hr of quality time in a motel anyday than in a back room of strip joint or at my house jerking off to a video.
Thats why we Hobby...we get the real touch of a woman with a little bit of personality and no hassles of an affair.
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06-18-2011, 06:44 PM
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unless im missing something here..Isnt that the reason we are in the hobby?
we are tired of paying tons of money at the strip joints to get a handjob and god knows who she did in front of you.
Are you are getting it on with a cam model at $3 a min to jerk yourself off when you can be with a real woman in the hobby for $200 hr.
do the math and see where you come out better..course i guess its all preferences but id rather share my time with a real woman for 1 hr of quality time in a motel anyday than in a back room of strip joint or at my house jerking off to a video.
Thats why we Hobby...we get the real touch of a woman with a little bit of personality and no hassles of an affair.
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BINGO!
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06-18-2011, 08:13 PM
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unless im missing something here..Isnt that the reason we are in the hobby?
we are tired of paying tons of money at the strip joints to get a handjob and god knows who she did in front of you.
Are you are getting it on with a cam model at $3 a min to jerk yourself off when you can be with a real woman in the hobby for $200 hr.
do the math and see where you come out better..course i guess its all preferences but id rather share my time with a real woman for 1 hr of quality time in a motel anyday than in a back room of strip joint or at my house jerking off to a video.
Thats why we Hobby...we get the real touch of a woman with a little bit of personality and no hassles of an affair.
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BINGO!![Thumbup](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/thumbup.gif)
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Exactly--- besides with cam sessions, there truly isn't interaction and what happens when there are technical issues. Hardly have any technical issues when you are with the gal in the flesh-- so to speak
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06-18-2011, 10:10 PM
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unless im missing something here..Isnt that the reason we are in the hobby?
we are tired of paying tons of money at the strip joints to get a handjob and god knows who she did in front of you.
Are you are getting it on with a cam model at $3 a min to jerk yourself off when you can be with a real woman in the hobby for $200 hr.
do the math and see where you come out better..course i guess its all preferences but id rather share my time with a real woman for 1 hr of quality time in a motel anyday than in a back room of strip joint or at my house jerking off to a video.
Thats why we Hobby...we get the real touch of a woman with a little bit of personality and no hassles of an affair.
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No kidding, my take exactly!
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