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07-26-2015, 03:56 PM
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It's usually ONLY about sex with a provider. But with an SO it's about far more than "just sex". Therefore, the comparison doesn't really stand. If you do only choose to compare the two based on sex, then yes the provider is infinitely of more value. But usually, with an SO, that's never the case.
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^ This deserves to be pointed out again.
As far as legalization of the trade, I think it should be. But then, when we consider the audience, we are probably preaching to the choir on this one.
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07-26-2015, 04:31 PM
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Ultimately, however, a business which is not passing on taxes to their customers cannot stay in business. That would mean they are operating at a negative cash flow, and that cannot be maintained indefinitely.
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Not necessarily.
Depends on little variables such as the pretax operating margin relative to the tax rate, for instance. In a typical service business, for example, there isn't a high cost of goods sold as there is for a retail chain, and most expenses are (relatively) fixed. Under some circumstances, competitive pressures would prevent service providers from passing on most or all of the tax burden to their customers.
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07-26-2015, 04:55 PM
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Not necessarily.
Depends on little variables such as the pretax operating margin relative to the tax rate, for instance. In a typical service business, for example, there isn't a high cost of goods sold as there is for a retail chain, and most expenses are (relatively) fixed. Under some circumstances, competitive pressures would prevent service providers from passing on most or all of the tax burden to their customers.
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Much in the same way that game console manufacturers take a loss on their hardware sales just so they can get their consoles into more peoples hands than their competitors. Of course, with that there is the expectation of selling the higher margin items down the line also, which doesn't necessarily apply to the providing business other than possibly generating customer loyalty.
Not a perfect example, but similar enough
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07-26-2015, 05:02 PM
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I think it should be legalized, and of course it is in some areas of Nevada. They don't seem to have rampant crime or any of the other evils associated with it.
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07-26-2015, 06:33 PM
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Let's assume provider sees 3 clients a day..and charges $300 per hour (days with less client. during period, sick day can be made up with multi hrs or overnite),, work 5 days a week..
$900 per day x 5 days x 51 weeks (subtract 1 week during winter holidays) = $234k/ year
After paying 40% tax (probably less than 40%), still be at $140k a year. Overhead of biz couldn't be more than $20k a year.
With legalization, there will be more clients so rate will go up (of course competition will too) and poor providers will fall out..good providers should be able to charge more....
I don't know about you but i think I can live comfortably with $120k a year in TX. Shit that is more than what average college graduates make a year....
With taxes collected, govt can run regulatory and sexual diseases prevention program.
Save money on law enforcement too by re-directing them to other needed areas
Just my thoughts.....
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07-27-2015, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Fort Worth Punk
Ultimately, however, a business which is not passing on taxes to their customers cannot stay in business. That would mean they are operating at a negative cash flow, and that cannot be maintained indefinitely.
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Only if they make zero profit. Some of the taxes come out of their profit. Imagine a market without any taxes. Say food, as it is in Texas (at least with sales taxes). Suddenly, a 10% sales tax is added. On some items, those that people feel they must buy (say milk) the price will go up by close to 10%. On other items that have a higher elasticity of demand (say the finest Beluga caviar) the seller will absorb a much higher percentage of the tax.
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07-27-2015, 01:59 PM
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Let's assume provider sees 3 clients a day..and charges $300 per hour (days with less client. during period, sick day can be made up with multi hrs or overnite),, work 5 days a week..
$900 per day x 5 days x 51 weeks (subtract 1 week during winter holidays) = $234k/ year
After paying 40% tax (probably less than 40%), still be at $140k a year. Overhead of biz couldn't be more than $20k a year.
With legalization, there will be more clients so rate will go up (of course competition will too) and poor providers will fall out..good providers should be able to charge more....
I don't know about you but i think I can live comfortably with $120k a year in TX. Shit that is more than what average college graduates make a year....
With taxes collected, govt can run regulatory and sexual diseases prevention program.
Save money on law enforcement too by re-directing them to other needed areas
Just my thoughts.....
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Those are some serious occupy hooker street economics. You used figures that just don't represent what 99% of ladies actually make.
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07-27-2015, 02:01 PM
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Those are some serious occupy hooker street economics. You used figures that just don't represent what 99% of ladies actually make.
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But it is fun to watch idiots run their own numbers.
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07-27-2015, 02:18 PM
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Leave it like it is. If they tax it the Providers' rates will go up. Just make it $50 fine. If you're stupid enough to get caught you deserve it.
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07-27-2015, 03:40 PM
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Why not just tax the cock and not the pussy.
Tax it by the inch, too, on a sliding scale so the well hung mo fos pay extra.
But the moralists will be the main barrier to decriminalization.
Not, imho, because of "legal" status ... but if there were no criminal issues about which to rail, the moralists and the politicians would not have the issue on which to make a fuss.
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07-27-2015, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by eng
Let's assume provider sees 3 clients a day..and charges $300 per hour (days with less client. during period, sick day can be made up with multi hrs or overnite),, work 5 days a week..
$900 per day x 5 days x 51 weeks (subtract 1 week during winter holidays) = $234k/ year
After paying 40% tax (probably less than 40%), still be at $140k a year. Overhead of biz couldn't be more than $20k a year.
With legalization, there will be more clients so rate will go up (of course competition will too) and poor providers will fall out..good providers should be able to charge more....
I don't know about you but i think I can live comfortably with $120k a year in TX. Shit that is more than what average college graduates make a year....
With taxes collected, govt can run regulatory and sexual diseases prevention program.
Save money on law enforcement too by re-directing them to other needed areas
Just my thoughts.....
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Man. That's a lot of dick!
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07-27-2015, 04:32 PM
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Unfortunately, with legalization will probably come heavy regulation. Politicians and (especially) bureaucrats love to lay down burdensome rules. In Nevada for instance, all activities must be covered, and ladies must work out of one of the licensed brothels (where they take 50% of the fee) - at least if they want to do it legally. How do you think that would go over in Dallas? I would rather have it the way it is now - maybe kinda sort of illegal, but with good screening of both provider and hobbyist, little chance of serious involvement with law enforcement.
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07-27-2015, 05:25 PM
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a lot of countries have legalized and controlled adult services. Just the other day I was reading an article about Australia and how their 4 states have legalized prostitution and how each state manages it differently.
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07-28-2015, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ca1962
Unfortunately, with legalization will probably come heavy regulation. Politicians and (especially) bureaucrats love to lay down burdensome rules. In Nevada for instance, all activities must be covered, and ladies must work out of one of the licensed brothels (where they take 50% of the fee) - at least if they want to do it legally. How do you think that would go over in Dallas? I would rather have it the way it is now - maybe kinda sort of illegal, but with good screening of both provider and hobbyist, little chance of serious involvement with law enforcement.
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I can't even fathom giving 50% of my earnings to someone else. F*ck that shit.
As far as I'm concerned, "escorting" is already a legalized crime depending on how well you did your taxes.
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07-28-2015, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ca1962
Unfortunately, with legalization will probably come heavy regulation. Politicians and (especially) bureaucrats love to lay down burdensome rules. In Nevada for instance, all activities must be covered, and ladies must work out of one of the licensed brothels (where they take 50% of the fee) - at least if they want to do it legally. How do you think that would go over in Dallas? I would rather have it the way it is now - maybe kinda sort of illegal, but with good screening of both provider and hobbyist, little chance of serious involvement with law enforcement.
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Legalizing prostitution, while good in theory, would make the providers go up again on their fees to offset those taxes and regulations imposed by the government. I think that, just like many other businesses who pay contract employees under the table, to save on taxes and guys looking for less expensive whores, the providers would do the same thing. The way it is now, it is not sort of illegal, it is 100% illegal, and as the old saying goes, when the mouse gets too smart, you build a better mousetrap.
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