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02-24-2013, 06:07 PM
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Is he being tried in military or civilian court?
I seriously don't know, the case seems to cross both sides
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02-24-2013, 06:10 PM
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Is he being tried in military or civilian court?
I seriously don't know, the case seems to cross both sides
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I have not seen where they have decided. My guess would be military, but I have little confidence in that guess.
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02-24-2013, 06:18 PM
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I suppose you COULD sound stupider, Eva, but I don't know how.
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Seeing your threads effects the matrix sometimes you sound dumber than usual.
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02-24-2013, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
Is he being tried in military or civilian court?
I seriously don't know, the case seems to cross both sides
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I have not seen where they have decided. My guess would be military, but I have little confidence in that guess.
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In April 2011, a panel of experts ruled that Manning was fit to stand trial. An Article 32 hearing, presided over by Lieutenant Colonel Paul Almanza, was convened on December 16, 2011, at Fort Meade, Maryland; the hearing resulted in Almanza recommending that Manning be referred to a general court-martial. He was arraigned on February 23, 2012, and declined to enter a plea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
. . . and he is still being held in military custody at Midwest Joint Regional Correctional Facility.
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02-24-2013, 07:00 PM
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Thanks.
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02-24-2013, 07:48 PM
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Manning put himself in the pot, let him stew.
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IBRunning&Hiding... Setting a new standard for chickenshit with every post!
LOSING!
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02-24-2013, 07:52 PM
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IBRunning&Hiding... Setting a new standard for chickenshit with every post!
LOSING!
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You've obviously forgotten you have "ignorant" all sewn up, Assup the jackass; that's why you were voted:
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02-24-2013, 08:04 PM
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IBRunning&Hiding ...
CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR
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02-24-2013, 08:13 PM
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IBRunning&Hiding ...
CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR
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Weak Fucker
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02-24-2013, 08:35 PM
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IBRunning&Hiding ...
CHICKENSHIT OF THE YEAR
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02-24-2013, 08:50 PM
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Maybe we could keep the dip/chickenshit back and forth limited to one thread, instead of...er..."tainting" every fucking thread? Who wants to start one dedicated to it? (Fuck, now 3sides is going to be drawn like a fucking magnet here)
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02-24-2013, 08:52 PM
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Amen Brother
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02-24-2013, 08:54 PM
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In April 2011, a panel of experts ruled that Manning was fit to stand trial. An Article 32 hearing, presided over by Lieutenant Colonel Paul Almanza, was convened on December 16, 2011, at Fort Meade, Maryland; the hearing resulted in Almanza recommending that Manning be referred to a general court-martial. He was arraigned on February 23, 2012, and declined to enter a plea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
. . . and he is still being held in military custody at Midwest Joint Regional Correctional Facility.
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That will change things considerably from the normal civilian courts.
Thanks IB
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02-24-2013, 09:05 PM
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Bradley Manning is in prison for leaking evidence of war crimes and crimes against humanity perpetrated by the US government. Here are just a few of the acts this "traitor" helped expose.
(1) Alex Spillius, “Wikileaks: Iraq War Logs show US ignored torture allegations,” Telegraph, October 22, 2010. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...legations.html
(2) Foreign contractors hired Afghan ‘dancing boys’, WikiLeaks cable reveals,” guardian.co.uk, December 2, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...d-dancing-boys
(3) Scott Shane and Benjamin Weiser, “The Guatanamo Files: Judging Detainees’ Risk, Often With Flawed Evidence,” New York Times, April 24, 2011, http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/wo...ing-risk.html; “US embassy cables: Don’t pursue Guantánamo criminal case, says Spanish attorney general,” guardian.co.uk, December 1, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-e...cuments/202776
(4) Iraq War Logs Reveal 15,000 Previously Unlisted Civilian Deaths,” guardian.co.uk, October 22, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ody-count-iraq
(5) Steven Clarke and Joseph Bamat, “Leaked video shows US military killing of civilians, Reuters staff,” France 24, July 27, 2010, http://www.france24.com/en/20100406-...-reuters-staff
(6) Robert Johnson, “WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought to Lower Minimum Wage in Haiti So Hanes and Levis Would Stay Cheap,” Business Insider, June 3, 2011, http://www.businessinsider.com/wikil...-nation-2011-6
(7) Gregory White, “This is the Wikileak That Sparked The Tunisian Crisis, Business Insider, January 14, 2011, http://www.businessinsider.com/tunisia-wikileaks-2011-1
(8) Daniel Tencer, “Cables: FBI trained Egypt’s state security ‘torturers,” The Raw Story, February 9, 2011, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/0...ypt-torturers/
(9) Gerri Peev, “Hillary Clinton ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on UN leaders,” The Daily Mail, November 29, 2010, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...N-leaders.html
(10) “Japan Earthquake 2011: WikiLeaks Reveals Government Warned About Nuclear Plant Safety in 2008,” Huffington Post, March 16, 2011, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_836529.html
(11) “Cable reveals US behind airstrike that killed 21 children in Yemen,” The Raw Story, December 2, 2010, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/0...children-yemen
These are things our government is hiding from us to cover their own asses. Manning is a hero for being brave enough to honor his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States". His oath did not include covering up the misdeeds and crimes committed by the government.
That attack that killed a Reuters journalist also included the killing of some children. Really? You are proud of that? And think it is justified? If so, STFU about Newtown.
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02-24-2013, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Bradley Manning is in prison for leaking evidence of war crimes and crimes against humanity perpetrated by the US government. Here are just a few of the acts this "traitor" helped expose.
(1) Alex Spillius, “Wikileaks: Iraq War Logs show US ignored torture allegations,” Telegraph, October 22, 2010. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...legations.html
(2) Foreign contractors hired Afghan ‘dancing boys’, WikiLeaks cable reveals,” guardian.co.uk, December 2, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...d-dancing-boys
(3) Scott Shane and Benjamin Weiser, “The Guatanamo Files: Judging Detainees’ Risk, Often With Flawed Evidence,” New York Times, April 24, 2011, http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/wo...ing-risk.html; “US embassy cables: Don’t pursue Guantánamo criminal case, says Spanish attorney general,” guardian.co.uk, December 1, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-e...cuments/202776
(4) Iraq War Logs Reveal 15,000 Previously Unlisted Civilian Deaths,” guardian.co.uk, October 22, 2010, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ody-count-iraq
(5) Steven Clarke and Joseph Bamat, “Leaked video shows US military killing of civilians, Reuters staff,” France 24, July 27, 2010, http://www.france24.com/en/20100406-...-reuters-staff
(6) Robert Johnson, “WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought to Lower Minimum Wage in Haiti So Hanes and Levis Would Stay Cheap,” Business Insider, June 3, 2011, http://www.businessinsider.com/wikil...-nation-2011-6
(7) Gregory White, “This is the Wikileak That Sparked The Tunisian Crisis, Business Insider, January 14, 2011, http://www.businessinsider.com/tunisia-wikileaks-2011-1
(8) Daniel Tencer, “Cables: FBI trained Egypt’s state security ‘torturers,” The Raw Story, February 9, 2011, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/0...ypt-torturers/
(9) Gerri Peev, “Hillary Clinton ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on UN leaders,” The Daily Mail, November 29, 2010, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...N-leaders.html
(10) “Japan Earthquake 2011: WikiLeaks Reveals Government Warned About Nuclear Plant Safety in 2008,” Huffington Post, March 16, 2011, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_836529.html
(11) “Cable reveals US behind airstrike that killed 21 children in Yemen,” The Raw Story, December 2, 2010, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/0...children-yemen
These are things our government is hiding from us to cover their own asses. Manning is a hero for being brave enough to honor his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States". His oath did not include covering up the misdeeds and crimes committed by the government.
That attack that killed a Reuters journalist also included the killing of some children. Really? You are proud of that? And think it is justified? If so, STFU about Newtown.
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Manning did nothing noble. Manning petulantly stole sensitive and secret documents and released those documents after being reprimanded and punished by his superiors for poor duty performance. His purpose was not noble, it was petty revenge. Manning’s purpose was to embarrass the U.S. and compromise its position internationally, because he was childishly unhappy with his circumstances for which he had voluntarily enlisted. The July 12, 2007, helicopter incident in particular is noteworthy because it was selectively edited and presented out of context to both outrage and inflame public opinion: there was nothing noble about that presentation – it was 100% propaganda.
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