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Old 10-04-2012, 12:42 PM   #16
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Reverend Al is to journalism what Obama is to the presidency. They both have jobs they couldn't have gotten without being black. Neither one is qualified for their job.
Give you enough rope you always hang yourself Joe. That is false and quite frankly racist.

Rev Al is as qualified a political commentator as some of the goons on fox.

Just unbelievable you people.

SMH.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:55 PM   #17
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You really aren't very bright are you? Of course you can increase tax revenue with a cut in rates, while at the same time removing loopholes. It's simply a matter of the net effect. One reduces and the other increases. The net effect is the revenue; it's not rocket science.
heres what obama said concerning romney and the tax plan he ascribed to romney:

"And the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you described, Governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. It's -- it's math. It's arithmetic."

romney stated he wanted to lower the rates but not the taxes on the wealthiest earners and also he replied he wasn't going to raise taxes on the middle class.

Lets dissect this.

Romney did say he wants to lower the rates

obama threw in a straw man in his attack on romney's tax ideas ..
it was: "it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals"

at no time did romney say "that only affect the high-income idividuals" in regard to deductions and loopholes

if rates are lowered for everyone cant also deductions be lowered for everyone and yet leave the middle class unscathed?

you lower the rates for the middle class, the deductions can be addressed also, not just for the richest but why not the middle class? leaving the middle class without a rise in their taxes but with a simpler tax system

as obama said "it's math, it's arithmetic"




oh and btw heres where obama lied about the oil industry and exxon mobil just to get the ignorant envious vote:

obama:

"The oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. Basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that Governor Romney refers to, they don't get.

Now, does anybody think that ExxonMobil needs some extra money, when they're making money every time you go to the pump? Why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? "

EXXON does not get percentage depletion
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:05 PM   #18
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Yes, Al Sharpton, what a fine upstanding law abiding, honest citizen. NOT........!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:05 PM   #19
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you lower the rates for the middle class, the deductions can be addressed also, not just for the richest but why not the middle class? leaving the middle class without a rise in thier taxes but with a simpler tax system

as obama said "it's math, it's arithmetic"
Really? and which deductions and loopholes for the middle class are going to perform this magic? Because Romney has yet to tell us a single one he intends to get rid of. Maybe you know.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:39 PM   #20
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I freely admitted Romney won this first debate even tho he denied and avoided his own positions and details (see the who won the debate thread for my detailed remarks)

But....

Rev Al Sharpton said some things on the post game wrap up that really resonate.

On Romney:

"He gave great testimony but he'd be indicted for purgury"

"A fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut."

His main point being although Romney "won" the debate, he has now committed himself on video to contradictions to his own former statements and positions of his party that will haunt and damage him in days to come.

Personally, I think he's right.
IF YOU PUT ANY STOCK IN WHAT THAT RACE BAITING POVERTY PIMP SAYS THEN ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ARE A PITIFUL MORON.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:43 PM   #21
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IF YOU PUT ANY STOCK IN WHAT THAT RACE BAITING POVERTY PIMP SAYS THEN ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ARE A PITIFUL MORON.
Fuck you too.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:59 PM   #22
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IF YOU PUT ANY STOCK IN WHAT THAT RACE BAITING POVERTY PIMP SAYS THEN ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ARE A PITIFUL MORON.
That pretty well says it.
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