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Old 09-09-2016, 08:42 PM   #16
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... I don't get how anyone feels it's wrong
Yes, it would seem you don't get it. Because you are the one taking a subjective opinion and attempting to turn it into an objective truth for everyone. WALDT has many applications and one would think a professional escort would be a bit more open-minded.

Frankly, such rigidity is as much a turnoff as an outdated showcase.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:48 PM   #17
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IMO there are plenty of fish in the sea, if a girl is too much for your budget move on. Don't be a thug and make out like it is something she should be ashamed of or a poor business practice, it is her decision to see you OR NOT. It is your option to see her or not-simple as that. If her biz is slow she might offer a special other than that be a gentleman and pay and/or shut up.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:23 PM   #18
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No negotiations? No discounts? *snort*

Anyone visit restaurant.com seeking a "$10 for $25 of merchandise" gift cert?

Buy those coupon books from the boy scouts for $10 and get tons of BOGO or similar?

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Maybe more appropriate: if I go to a nice restaurant and the steak is mis-cooked, the salad has brown edges on the lettuce, and the wine has turned...I am not paying full price for it simply because "no negotiations" or "no discounts." Two weeks ago, I had a $100 ticket for two torn up because the appetitzer we ordered was delivered at the same time the meal arrived. I didn't even have to ask. What did I do? Left half the ticket in cash - in case the waiter had to eat part of the cost. Or, to make sure he knows how appreciated good service is in my world.

Where is that guarantee in this game? When it is a regular feature we can talk about not negotiating or asking for discounts.
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Old 09-09-2016, 09:49 PM   #19
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This whole hoby is supply and demand. There are several different levels of providers and I like to see the higher end ones that run a specials. The ones that do get a lot more money that night, and the guys get to see better girls too. The girls find some regulars over all it is good for there business. I have had good service from all levels of providers, some are just way to proud of it and won't make any money because of price. If a girl is not getting much business because he rates are to high I don't understand why they start crying because people try to negotiate.
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Old 09-09-2016, 10:38 PM   #20
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You're dead wrong about professionals not negotiating.

I'm a lawyer, and I offer reduced pricIng all the time to high value accounts and when I bid on government contracts.

Further phaycians offer reduced pricing consistently. Why do you think there is an "in network" and "out of network" policy for certain insurance networks? Do you think insurance companies just randomly pick physicians? No! It's because they negotiate terms (including pricing terms), and some physicians' offices will agree, others wont.

You naturally have every right to refuse to negotiate. You may also think that those clients thwt try to nevotiate are cheap or assholes: I would call them suckers.

My point is you are entitled to your own way of running your business, but as an attorney that runs my own business, there is a high probability you are hurting your own bottom line. If you would rather makes less to maintain a specific hourly number, the so be it. But do not for a second think that this type of policy does not have a dramatic effect on your business.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:34 PM   #21
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Recently a newbie left me a review that was lovely. He was a sweet man even surprised I was nice to him when we met.
A response left by someone mentioned that "Newbies shouldn't pay so much and that they should learn to negotiate".
What exactly is being negotiated I ask? "My time"? The time required of by said negotiator mind you. This isn't a carpet installation or car sale. For anyone who would think to ask for a break, I would ask that you just not bother to contact me. I don't even have to ask how many girls support this and I know there are gentleman that feel the same. Our time is priceless in fact and for anyone haggling a provider from 300-400 to half hours she doesn't already offer to car dates ...she never mentioned...then the that John clearly is just daft and inconsiderate. Even denigrating. I have met some great people in these crossroads and remained close and even formed long bonds with them. I have definitely given repeats or just cool men breaks as well as become a confidant. That is with trust and consideration however, same as it goes in real life. That applies in this realm as well. We are not obligated to lower out worth for anyone especially those who would even ask. PLEASE remember who is seeking who and keep it simple. If you're pissed at the world, your childhood or how many cats you have to feed, it's not our fault. No girl should have to negotiate her time unless, and this is creed, she doesn't act or demonstrate her worth. While I empathize with both side here because I have heard of experiences men face, let's not use bad experiences as a reason to Haggle for the Goods. The same goods that clearly are important enough to power up an entire site. Let's act like a women created you OK ? Jeez Thank you to those who act like a upright walking human all the time.
It kills me every time I see a thread like this. Please don't negotiate for my golden pussy. It's up to us to do it and it's up to you to accept it. Why even talk about it.

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Old 09-10-2016, 12:15 AM   #22
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Why is this so hard for people to accept? If a lady doesn't want to negotiate she isn't a bad person. She isn't necessarily stuck up or too full of herself. She has just made a personal/business decision that she doesn't want to negotiate. And I could see how it becomes annoying when people don't respect your decision and try to squeeze you for less dollars.

If you disagree move on but don't cast aspersions or use disrespectful terms. That is so lame.
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:32 AM   #23
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Just my $0.02, but I have never asked for a discount from a stated rate. Yes, some professionals do negotiate but, we are talking about a rather personal resource here! Building on Katee's idea, I would feel that I would get less than the ladies "best work", and I want the best I can get.
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:10 AM   #24
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Hello,
Recently a newbie left me a review that was lovely. He was a sweet man even surprised I was nice to him when we met.
A response left by someone mentioned that "Newbies shouldn't pay so much and that they should learn to negotiate".
What exactly is being negotiated I ask? "My time"? The time required of by said negotiator mind you. This isn't a carpet installation or car sale. For anyone who would think to ask for a break, I would ask that you just not bother to contact me. I don't even have to ask how many girls support this and I know there are gentleman that feel the same. Our time is priceless in fact and for anyone haggling a provider from 300-400 to half hours she doesn't already offer to car dates ...she never mentioned...then the that John clearly is just daft and inconsiderate. Even denigrating. I have met some great people in these crossroads and remained close and even formed long bonds with them. I have definitely given repeats or just cool men breaks as well as become a confidant. That is with trust and consideration however, same as it goes in real life. That applies in this realm as well. We are not obligated to lower out worth for anyone especially those who would even ask. PLEASE remember who is seeking who and keep it simple. If you're pissed at the world, your childhood or how many cats you have to feed, it's not our fault. No girl should have to negotiate her time unless, and this is creed, she doesn't act or demonstrate her worth. While I empathize with both side here because I have heard of experiences men face, let's not use bad experiences as a reason to Haggle for the Goods. The same goods that clearly are important enough to power up an entire site. Let's act like a women created you OK ? Jeez Thank you to those who act like a upright walking human all the time.
"Our time is priceless in fact and for anyone haggling a provider from 300-400 to half hours she doesn't already offer to car dates ...she never mentioned...then the that John clearly is just daft and inconsiderate"

1. your time is obviously not "priceless," considering the fact that you are literally putting a price tag on it.

2. many girls offer car dates and reduced rates for inconveniences of not having an incall that night, etc.

"We are not obligated to lower out worth for anyone especially those who would even ask"

3. I would hope your worth is much more than the price you put on your time.
The fact that you conflate the two is your problem, not someone else's, and why you consider it an insult for someone to ask for a lower rate. If you don't want to, don't do it. But don't place blame on someone else for you being upset, you are the one choosing to take offense.

"PLEASE remember who is seeking who and keep it simple"

4. Both parties are doing the other an equal favor, the client gets the time and activities they want, and the provider receives whatever payment arrangement they want. You're seeking clients via advertisement, and the client is seeking you by whatever means of contact available. And it's "who is seeking whom," btw.

"No girl should have to negotiate her time"

5. She doesn't. Who is out here making women negotiate their time? Nobody. She can choose to ignore him.

"Let's act like a women created you OK ?"

Last time I checked, it took a man and a woman to create a human. I do respect the fact that women carry the child for nine months, but that alone does not make a person worthy of resect in and of itself. There are many women who shouldn't be having children and many women who, for one reason or other do not have kids, are you saying that shitty mothers deserve more respect by virtue of carrying children than childless women?
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:17 AM   #25
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Most of my experience is on P411. The negotiating there is--the provider sets the price and tries to be in a city close to me. If I like the price, then I try to set up a date. If it is too high and I've seen the gal before, I ask, "Do you have any specials?" or set a specific limit on the amount. If they respond, it is usually positive. But sometimes the discussion is more on the extras. One provider took off some cash for the Cuban cigars and rum I offered.
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:23 AM   #26
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Our time is priceless

No. There came a day when you decided to whore yourself out and set a price. Over time that will change as you age and your body begins to wear out.


.... let's not use bad experiences as a reason to Haggle for the Goods. The same goods that clearly are important enough to power up an entire site.
The site is built on the exchange of information and reviews. If there was never a woman posting or advertising here the true value of the site would remain.


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PLEASE remember who is seeking who and keep it simple.

LOL!

Please... Tell us exactly what you came to this site seeking? You are nothing special. Plenty like you and new ones every day.

Please remember what YOU came here seeking and act accordingly.


I suppose the next thing you are going to tell us is that there is no barebacking right?
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Old 09-10-2016, 05:31 AM   #27
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If I was at Subway and told the server that I wanted a specific sandwich but at a 33% discount......I'll likely get 33% less sandwich.

If a provider is offering specials up front that's one thing.

One of my basic beliefs about this hobby is to be respectful. That goes for both provider and client. Treating a provider like haggling with a car salesman is just rude in my opinion.
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:53 AM   #28
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I never haggle, but when it comes to money everything is negotiable. It all about developing a mutual respect to the person that you are dealing with. I have had providers negotiate with me to be a regular client.
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:57 AM   #29
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There should be no negotiation. It really shouldn't even come up. If I want to offer a special it's usually for military or people who have done something with their lives. Sorry I wont cheapen myself for you!
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Why is this so hard for people to accept? If a lady doesn't want to negotiate she isn't a bad person. She isn't necessarily stuck up or too full of herself. She has just made a personal/business decision that she doesn't want to negotiate. And I could see how it becomes annoying when people don't respect your decision and try to squeeze you for less dollars.

If you disagree move on but don't cast aspersions or use disrespectful terms. That is so lame.
Exactly escorts are discounts.Paying escorts to leave without strings.
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