Hagglers-- Seriously

[Reverseheadstock]

Could you knock $50 bucks off sexy?

Sure darlin'. Want me to stare at your dick for half an hour and smile?

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by Reverseheadstock

Could you knock $50 bucks off sexy?

Sure darlin'. Want me to stare at your dick for half an hour and smile?

Once upon a time, I had a charming (cough) fellow ask me what could he get for $50. I told him I would happily wave at him from my front door.

[DNiceGuy]

Olivia,

Sorry about the experience you had with hagglers in Dallas.

There are many hobbyists in Dallas that will take your rates as they are. If you can't afford it, don't do it. I hope you don't get dissuaded from visiting us again.

I would have tried to schedule with you, unfortunately I am out of town. Ironically, just saw a girl from Denver in California.

I will try to catch you next time you are in Dallas.

DNG

[Guest102215]

I don't want to pay for sex at all. but I also don't want to call you the next day and listen to you bitch about me not spending any time with you cause I'm out with other women!

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by GracePreston

I find it incredibly cute when there is a thread about haggling, and guys who have attempted to haggle with me (of all people, I'm extremely reasonably priced) are always up in the thread apologizing for all those "nasty hagglers".

Hey-- if you're a haggler, its ok. Just own what you are. That's all I'm sayin'

Grace you sort of painted us all w your comments. I don't consider myself in that group.

[L.A.]

Hopefully I won't sound like a douche but no guarantees.

You're selling something
Guys are buying something

Some will haggle, negotiate, ask for discounts and specials. Some won't. Nothing is going to change.

I believe there are plenty who do a markup expecting the hagglers to do their thing that when they agree on a price it's pretty much what they had in mind to begin with.
Others post a rate and that's exactly what they expect.
I also believe no matter what rate is there, no matter how fair, how low, or how high, some will still try to get it lower. You could post a rate of 100/hr for PSE and somebody would try to get you to 75.

Since nothing is going to change regarding hagglers, my suggestion is to be flattered people are contacting you, and if you have no interest in lowering your price, be polite and let them know your rate is what it is.. If they continue then put them on ignore.

Looking at your posted rate of 275 and then mentioning P411 members get a discount, that seems to be pretty much in the right zone around here. Bottom line is your rate is your rate and you can do whatever you want with it, but nothing will stop people from trying to negotiate.

Hell, maybe they are confused because you're asking for Orchids on your website.

So looking at p411, here, and your website you have few rates listed which range from 250-350 and in your showcase you mention that you offer a P411 discount.
I can understand somebody bringing up the various rates and at least just asking you what is the rate for an hour. I think that's preferable to showing up and you and your client have different rate expectations.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by cush

I don't want to pay for sex at all. but I also don't want to call you the next day and listen to you bitch about me not spending any time with you cause I'm out with other women!

You almost get a half off rate for that one...too funny!

You teach others how to treat you. That said, for every woman sticking to her rates, there's another 20 who will negotiate. That's just how this cookie crumbles. If a majority of ladies were firm on their rates, the trend wouldn't be so rampant. Fact is, if one needs 200 to pay a bill but rate is 260, and a gent has 220, I'm sure pride is set aside and a cock is soon to be sucked or tugged...some cases not.

I will say however, I don't get too many hagglers here, there, or anywhere. Maybe I'm intimidating, hehehe!

[Pedrosia]

Olivia,

Your pictures don't tell me how your body would look naked riding my dick.

The only review I can see has no information.

if you had a pretty face I would inquire but I can't see it.

So I never got around to looking at your rate.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by GracePreston

I find it incredibly cute when there is a thread about haggling, and guys who have attempted to haggle with me (of all people, I'm extremely reasonably priced) are always up in the thread apologizing for all those "nasty hagglers".

Hey-- if you're a haggler, its ok. Just own what you are. That's all I'm sayin'

Shit..I was about to apologize for you having to endure the hagglers, but...I didn't want to wind up on the "list", lol...(oops too late)

Hey Olivia...don't take the hagglers as the majority here, even if that was most of your requests...hope you had a good time otherwise and will return.

You know, we have BB Lists, NBA Lists, Dumbass Lists...
HEY LADIES: Grow a pair and start a "Hagglers" List!
FUCK YAAAAAAA!

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by slowmover

Grace you sort of painted us all w your comments. I don't consider myself in that group.

Nor should you. I don't recall you ever haggling with me. Not once did I say "ALL".. however, there is a repeating theme in some of these haggling threads with certain people and it just amuses me to no end.

[ManSlut]

FYI, Olivia's ads say she's here thru tomorrow the 9th.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Olivia Belle

...... WOW -- Let me remind everyone (including myself), this is a luxury to be able to play in this hobby....

Yes, the hobby is a luxury which is why when I pay a provider's full advertised donation rate with my hard earned money, I expect a luxury of a time. While opinions vary on what is a good time to a degree, the YMMV card should never be played unless it is ok to be YMMV on the donation. Even though she wants the money, if a provider does not feel she is going to be at her best for any reason, she should cancel and/or reschedule the session.

Which leads me to this quote:

Originally Posted by sweet.treat69

Yep that's Dallas for ya. There are lots of guys who can afford the luxury of hobbying without the need to haggle, but there are probably just as many who can't and who still try to get Neiman Marcus pussy at Walmart prices. I've always had pretty good luck on P411 and TER.. ECCIE can be hit or miss for sure.

.....

Using your analogy, the same can be said about many providers in that she wants to be paid a Neiman Marcus donation for her Walmart services (and sometimes worse), usually because she does not really want to do this type of work, she looks at each guy as if he is a number/an ATM machine and by playing the YMMV card just because she feels like it or perhaps a combination of the 3. BTW, considering the overall persona of the providers, not just her BCD skills only, and not pointing anyone out, but if you as a provider are a drama creator/contributor, that is considered the same type of Walmart service provider seeking Neiman Marcus prices IMO. If you look at the reviews, there are way too many no recommendations as well yes that read as if they should have been no on the recommendation to others.

Originally Posted by ManSlut

Just ignore the hagglers Olivia........

It's a two-fold problem mainly:
1) There are a lot of guys who Hobby and there is a lot of talent to choose from
2) There is a lot of unproven talent asking for premium rates


It takes a certain amount of thick skin to survive in the Hobby, so don't dwell on the negative things too much, be polite to the hagglers for expressing interest and move on.

Keep in mind as females you are the biggest reasons for global retail markets and that is because you constantly shop clearance sales, coupon sales, special event sales and Internet bargain sites. Why? Because you don't want to pay full retail...Keep in mind you are selling something, yourself, and some guys will always feel they have a right to pay, or try to pay, as little as possible for it...Trust me - Women would absolutely do the same if you paid for dick on a regular basis.

I can see the reasons guys do haggle on donation price, but none are legit, regardless of the reasoning. Most guys do have price limit on what they are willing to pay, but there is no universally set donation price providers have to fall in to. Even if the provider is a new to providing or to Eccie, or if she is a VP on this site, you may have to do a more in depth research before you pull the trigger on seeing her, but not be haggled on price just because she does not have any history on Eccie or no/old reviews. If you cannot afford her or not wanting to take that stab in the dark, wait and let others who can and are willing to see her w/o any history and read their reviews to possibly determine if you want to see her or not for the rate she wants instead of asking for a discount, it just makes you look bad, and the providers do tell each other.

Yes, you have to have thick skin, at least being a member of this site in the Dallas forums, which is a shame because we sometimes loose good talent and people because of the bad apples on this site with their agendas and condescending posts 99% of the time. There have been lots of deactivation of accounts lately by both providers and hobbyists and you can be sure that at least partially, the correlation exists. That is a big reason why many guys are just lurkers and most providers post ads if they post at all.

[Fawlty]

Haggling must work in some instances to lower the price of admission. I have never haggled, but perhaps we do need a hagglers list so I can at least reference those hobbyists when I inqure about getting the haggler's rate from the providers who actually see these guys.

[beachcomber789]

Your photo's are great, the rate is fine.....like Sweet.treat69 said...some want something for nothing! Have fun in Dallas, there are a lot of guys that would enjoy your company and not blink on the donation.

[Thuck Fat]

Originally Posted by L.A.

You're selling something
Guys are buying something

Some will haggle, negotiate, ask for discounts and specials. Some won't. Nothing is going to change.

+1

For example, a guy wanting to see the OP at her 275/hour rate twice at different times on the same day instead of paying the 650/2 hour rate doesn't make him a haggler or cheapskate. It's called being smart with his money. No different than what regular customers at Neimann Marcus do. (Nice one btw sweat.treat69 )