Trump big announcement Nov 15

[Tiny]

Excellent article -

Donald Trump’s Presidential Rerun
Will the GOP nominate the man Democrats know they can beat?

By The Editorial Board

Donald Trump seems to be barreling ahead with an announcement Tuesday night that he plans to run for President again. The irony is that more Democrats than Republicans will be elated because they see him as the easiest candidate to beat one more time.

Mr. Trump’s advisers urged him to hold off at least until the Dec. 6 Senate runoff in Georgia. But Mr. Trump is announcing now, long before he needs to, for two reasons. The first is to try to clear the Republican field of potential competitors, especially Govs. Ron DeSantis and Glenn Youngkin, who have shown they can win in competitive states.

Mr. Trump also wants to get ahead of a possible Justice Department indictment. If Mr. Trump is already announced as a candidate seeking President Biden’s job, he figures he can portray an indictment by Attorney General Merrick Garland as political and rally Republicans to his side. Herschel Walker’s fate is incidental to Mr. Trump’s ambition.

These columns believe in democracy, which means trusting the decisions of voters. Even when they make mistakes, our constitutional system allows for checks and corrections. We warned about Mr. Trump’s character in 2016, but once he was elected we covered him like any other President. We owed that to readers, and he had many policy successes: taxes and deregulation, energy security, judges, the Abraham Accords, correcting illusions about Iran, among others.

But his character flaws—narcissism, lack of self-control, abusive treatment of advisers, his puerile vendettas—interfered with that success. Before Covid he was headed for re-election. But the damage from his shutdown of the economy combined with his erratic behavior in that crisis gave Joe Biden the opening to campaign for normalcy. Mr. Trump lost a winnable election.

Had he accepted that defeat, he might now be poised for a comeback given Mr. Biden’s unpopularity. But Mr. Trump contested the outcome well past any reasonable limit and encouraged his supporters to march on the Capitol on Jan. 6. He badgered his loyal Vice President, Mike Pence, to stop the Electoral College vote count to the point where lives were in danger, including Mr. Pence’s. The deadly riot will forever stain his legacy.

Last week’s elections showed that clinging to 2020 election denial, as Mr. Trump has, is a loser’s game. Republicans who took this line to win his endorsement nearly all lost. The country showed it wants to move on, but Mr. Trump refuses—perhaps because he can’t admit to himself that he was a loser.

Mr. Trump will carry all of that baggage and more into a 2024 race. In 2016 voters took a chance on the brash outsider businessman against the unpopular Hillary Clinton. Now Americans know that the Donald Trump they saw in office is the same one they’d get for another four years. They voted in 2018 and 2020 to stop the daily turmoil. It’s hard to believe they’d vote in 2024 to do it all again.

Many Republicans who see Mr. Trump as their champion will want to take that chance. They say only he can take on a willful, increasingly radical left. But two years out of office, Mr. Trump remains more unpopular than Mr. Biden. He divides Republicans, while he is the most effective motivator of Democratic voter turnout in history.

Even if by some miracle Mr. Trump won, he would have a hard time filling an Administration with top-notch people. He could only serve one more term. Republicans would be nominating an immediate lame duck.

The problem for Republicans is that Mr. Trump’s base is so loyal that he might win the nomination in a splintered field. That’s what happened in 2016. And if Mr. Trump lost the nomination, would he even accept that result? Or would he sabotage the winner by urging his supporters to stay home, or by running as a third-party candidate? Recall that Mr. Trump refused to promise to support another GOP candidate in 2016.

We believe in the durability of U.S. institutions, which is where we parted company with the left and many Never Trumpers who refused to accept Mr. Trump’s 2016 victory as legitimate. They didn’t trust democracy, even as they pretended to be protecting it. Instead of trusting voters, they cheered on FBI subterfuge in 2016, the Russia collusion fraud, opposition to nearly all Trump nominees, impeachment, and the Mar-a-Lago raid.

All of these did more to help than hurt Mr. Trump with his supporters. Next may come an indictment that could help him again. That is precisely what Democrats want as they hope Republicans renominate him.

The real restraint on Mr. Trump has been the voters who gave him his chance in 2016. Then they checked him by ousting a GOP House in 2018, defeated him for re-election, and last week trounced nearly all of his hand-picked candidates in swing races.

The GOP, and the country, would be best served if Mr. Trump ceded the field to the next generation of Republican leaders to compete for the nomination in 2024. If Mr. Trump insists on running, then Republican voters will have to decide if they want to nominate the man most likely to produce a GOP loss and total power for the progressive left.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-...op-11668454286

[VitaMan]

Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Has he made it yet, I am waiting patiently for you. To spit it out since you are so obsessed with the man!,,

Who else can make an announcement, stating that he will soon be making a big announcement ? Only the Donald ?


Perhaps one day you will be important enough to make a thread about threads you will be posting in the future.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Who else can make an announcement, stating that he will soon be making a big announcement ? Only the Donald ?


Perhaps one day you will be important enough to make a thread about threads you will be posting in the future.

You are the obsessed with Trump, you are the one that started this ridiculous bullshit, did he make an announcement or not. It’s a yes or no question, yet you write a book and still do not address the topic

[oilfieldace]

I do not keep up with Trumps coming and/or going. Nor that brain dead sons a bitch who now resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

[The_Waco_Kid]

two words on why Trump can win re-election.


Let's go Brandon!


BAAHHAAAHHAAAAA

[Grace Preston]

Here's the bigger question....


If he does not win the nomination (and there is a distinct possiblity-- DeSantis is growing in popularity) will he support the candidate that does win... or will he be salty and run as an Independent?

[VitaMan]

The big announcement has been made.

Pity the poor Republicans for the next 2 years.

And pity the posters on here that keep saying Trump is irrelevant and should not be discussed.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Here's the bigger question....


If he does not win the nomination (and there is a distinct possiblity-- DeSantis is growing in popularity) will he support the candidate that does win... or will he be salty and run as an Independent?

won't happen unless some other Republican comes out strong like DeSantis. otherwise the deadline to get on the ballot as an independent will be long past by the time the RNC convention is held.


let Ben Carson and a long list of nobodies try to take the nomination from Trump. they'll get buried like 2016. let's retread Jeb Bush again. Carly Fiorina? they'll get curb stomped. Pence?


Trump is doing this now for one reason. to try and jump the gun on any run by DeSantis.


DeSantis is only 44 years old. he can wait unless he thinks he can beat Trump in the primary. and of course he'll have to abandon his second term as Governor in Florida. so does he want to be President now (in 2 years but close enough). we'll see.

Originally Posted by VitaMan

The big announcement has been made.

Pity the poor Republicans for the next 2 years.

And pity the posters on here that keep saying Trump is irrelevant and should not be discussed.

pity America for 2 years of Biden with 2 to go. you really want that?


5 MILLION illegals ... so far. you really want 15-20 MILLION illegals in the country by 2028?


do you really think Trump would have any real chance to run again and win if not for the Biden socialist progressive disaster?


remember what Obama said about Biden (and in part why he didn't want Biden to run to succeed him in 2016) ...


don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. well .. he fucked things up. and he can only fuck things up more. there is no fixing Biden's mess by Biden. the only way to fix Biden's mess is to get rid of him.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

won't happen unless some other Republican comes out strong like DeSantis. otherwise the deadline to get on the ballot as an independent will be long past by the time the RNC convention is held.


let Ben Carson and a long list of nobodies try to take the nomination from Trump. they'll get buried like 2016. let's retread Jeb Bush again. Carly Fiorina? they'll get curb stomped. Pence?


Trump is doing this now for one reason. to try and jump the gun on any run by DeSantis.


DeSantis is only 44 years old. he can wait unless he thinks he can beat Trump in the primary. and of course he'll have to abandon his second term as Governor in Florida. so does he want to be President now (in 2 years but close enough). we'll see.





pity America for 2 years of Biden with 2 to go. you really want that?


5 MILLION illegals ... so far. you really want 15-20 MILLION illegals in the country by 2028?


do you really think Trump would have any real chance to run again and win if not for the Biden socialist progressive disaster?


remember what Obama said about Biden (and in part why he didn't want Biden to run to succeed him in 2016) ...


don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. well .. he fucked things up. and he can only fuck things up more. there is no fixing Biden's mess by Biden. the only way to fix Biden's mess is to get rid of him.

The only way to fix Trump's mess was by picking a different poison...so the voting public did. Far from ideal, but at least not owned by Putin.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

The only way to fix Trump's mess was by picking a different poison...so the voting public did. Far from ideal, but at least not owned by Putin.

i'm unaware of Trump's mess. can you be more specific? or not.

Trump was never owned by Russia. Biden however is owned by China.

you need to stop believing the Russian collusion narrative. it's false and proven so.

[matchingmole]

Trump is the mess.....Trump/Pence will lose again

[Lucas McCain]

It seems like the Trump soap opera never ends. Oh well, I hope folks are looking forward to watching and listening to two years of his shit show circus.

I am sure Fox News and Fucker Carlson are happy as can be although the majority is just rolling their eyes over more childish attention seeking drama that Trump always brings along with him.

More importantly though, I don't want to see another 6 years of Biden and Harris. The only way that happens is because that fat old orange man can't check his ego.

[Trey]

It's gonna be ����. Top entertainment. Liz will enter too as independent if she has to. The fights will be epic! The debates will are already gonna be classics. Trump getting blasted by his own. Forcing the cult to look in on itself or more likely break away. This can't get much better. Where's that pillow guy!? We need that guy back too. And Rudy bring the whole shit show together ❤️.

[oilfieldace]

What I truly don’t understand is why you libturds aren’t excited about Mr Trumps bigly announcement. To be honest I lived 70 odd years without ever hearing anyone utter the word bigly, not even sure it’s a word. One of you English Majors please look it up.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

It seems like the Trump soap opera never ends. Oh well, I hope folks are looking forward to watching and listening to two years of his shit show circus.

I am sure Fox News and Fucker Carlson are happy as can be although the majority is just rolling their eyes over more childish attention seeking drama that Trump always brings along with him.

More importantly though, I don't want to see another 6 years of Biden and Harris. The only way that happens is because that fat old orange man can't check his ego.

Or he truly believes he is better for America. Of course that never entered your mind.