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12-09-2023, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I call bullshit on that Levi.
Please show examples of where anti-Syrian language is called anti-Semitic?
Iranians are actually Aryan by racial origin.
Ethiopians? Show us!
You need to put down the dictionary and use some common sense, dude
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
"Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group[2][3][4][5] associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, and Phoenicians. The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics.[6][7][8] First used in the 1770s by members of the Göttingen School of History, this biblical terminology for race was derived from Shem (Hebrew: שֵׁם), one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis,[9] together with the parallel terms Hamites and Japhetites.
In archaeology, the term is sometimes used informally as "a kind of shorthand" for ancient Semitic-speaking peoples."
The article goes on to discuss the concepts or Race and Ethnicity a in the context of archeology.
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12-09-2023, 09:39 AM
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And now can we return to the topic of the OP?
During the run up to the national elections of 1850, there were a series of public debates between the Republican candidates, Abraham Lincoln and his rival, Douglas.
There is no definitive transcript of these exchanges as the only recording method for a live off-the-cuff conversation was short hand note tasking and the reporting was published by rival newspapers who favored either Lincoln nor Douglas. Wd just don't know exactly what was said by either man.
Today. however, we can know what folks say in public. Most public confrontations are recorded in some way by some one. When it comes to a Congressional Committee hearing, the record is explicit and permanent.
Having said one thing, I do not see how it can be un-said.
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12-09-2023, 09:40 AM
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Wow... nobody with a working moral compass can possibly defend this lost, weak-minded woman!
"What exactly should she have said?"
Good grief, it wasn't a hard question!
She should have said - any student, faculty member or administrator expressing a desire to kill all Jews (that's what genocide means) grossly violates the university's Code of Conduct. They will be immediately and summarily denounced, fired and expelled from the institution, and stripped of all tenure, pension and retirement benefits.
It's called zero tolerance.
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And who is defending her ?
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12-09-2023, 10:15 AM
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And who is defending her ?
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Certainly not me. Which answer do you like better - hers or mine?
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12-09-2023, 10:24 AM
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Again: Who is defending her ?
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12-09-2023, 10:48 AM
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Anyone who suggests her answer was acceptable.
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12-09-2023, 10:56 AM
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Who has suggested that ?
Now you have done this twice today.....and many, many times before.
Your continuing agenda of trying to put your thoughts and words to others.
They are your thoughts and words.....no one elses.
Keep them to yourself.
Your proposed answer sounds like it came from a scripted handbook. More like a BOT or an AI response...not a human.
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12-09-2023, 11:12 AM
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Your proposed answer sounds like it came from a scripted handbook. More like a BOT or an AI response...not a human.
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Fine. Now let's hear your proposed answer.
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12-09-2023, 11:19 AM
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Fine. Now let's hear your proposed answer.
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Move on, bro.
If you want to post the names of those that are defending the university professor, go ahead.
You could also post your answer on Wikipedia.
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12-09-2023, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Antisemitism. Has never applied to any group other than Jewish people.
End of story.
Just because you spout talking points from (God knows what ultra white nationalist groups) doesn’t mask your intent, Levi.
Just drop it.
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It's pathetic.
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12-09-2023, 02:42 PM
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A lot of adverse characterizations back and borth along with and topic-irrelevant chit-chat
Anybody have any thoughts on the receint spat of prominent, smart, credentialed people avoiding hard questions, then using SAT level word salad to avoid apologizing for their mendacity?
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12-09-2023, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
Although the chants for the genocide of Jews is obviously unacceptable. Antisemitic hate speech isn't exclusive to only Jews. A Semite is basically defined as "Any group of people who speak a Semitic Language. Semitic languages are Arabic, Amharic, Tigrinya, Hebrew and Aramaic. People of Syria, Israel, Iraq, Iran,Lebanon and Ethiopia are Semitic people. So those that advocate the genocide of Palestinians are also Antisemitic. Those that insult or bully Rashida tlaib and ilham omar are antisemitic. So this Antisemitic exclusivity associated with only Jews is bullshit.
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Man. If you gonna go that far out on a limb to state that, why did you disagree with Whoopi Goldberg stating that they are not a race? (Which, by those eugenically inclined people, will agree)?
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Are we NOT looking for opinions here??
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So you have never been about posting facts here.
Now. Wasn't that easy to admit.
Maybe people won't be asking you to quote sources with factual references anymore.
.....nah.
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Free Speech is a thing of the past. That's why incidents like this get so much publicity.
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Just to refresh your memory, on this site we don't have free speech. You only get that if you pay up for the site that you post such. See reference to He With The Gold.
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12-09-2023, 07:17 PM
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And who is defending her ?
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She should not be defended by anyone - the fact that you can't simply condemn hate speech about anyone is actually the problem. Sometimes you have to pick a side, and that is acceptance and love over hate and division. It's really a quite simple decision. She needed to leave and was handed her hat and shown the door.
By the way I don't think this is selectively a left ideology but simply somebody who is ill-informed and should not be in the position of leadership of a college of that distinction let alone a community college, or even a history class. Disgusting at the least, despicable at the norm!
Anyone who leads a college needs to be beyond political affiliated ideology and extremism dogma.
Colleges are on notice and need to clean house if they haven't. I really don't believe in DEI when it comes to ideology, as I think most college leaders need to be free thinkers who embrace educated ideas, and not just marching orders or a mantra from one side or the other.
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12-09-2023, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ICU 812
A lot of adverse characterizations back and borth along with and topic-irrelevant chit-chat
Anybody have any thoughts on the receint spat of prominent, smart, credentialed people avoiding hard questions, then using SAT level word salad to avoid apologizing for their mendacity?
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Totally agree.. word salad needs to leave the building when it comes to this. Wordsmithing a solution is not a solution, but drawing a line against exclusion and hate is part of any institution of higher learning. No room for that baloney in postsecondary education. My 2 cents
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12-09-2023, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
Man. If you gonna go that far out on a limb to state that, why did you disagree with Whoopi Goldberg stating that they are not a race? (Which, by those eugenically inclined people, will agree)?
So you have never been about posting facts here.
Now. Wasn't that easy to admit.
Maybe people won't be asking you to quote sources with factual references anymore.
.....nah.
Just to refresh your memory, on this site we don't have free speech. You only get that if you pay up for the site that you post such. See reference to He With The Gold.
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What are you talking about.I disagreed with Whoopi Goldberg?
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