Hey ECCIE: How about a Provider OK forum for the ladies?

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by L.A.

Pros, cons, good idea, bad idea....will never happen.

Sadly, I kinda agree with you.
Here's the thing in the business world: you innovate and improve or you die. MySpace was a cool idea. Facebook made it (social media) cooler.

[DarkeyKong]

Originally Posted by Prolongus

What other "system" are they using now? Besides P411 where they can see several OKs at once? That's what I'm suggesting be done here: have a place for a girl to check refs without waiting for another girl to get back to her.

I mean as opposed to the normal reference check. I could be wrong though. Hey, it works for P411. I guess I put myself in the providers situation, I would at least want to get confirmation from one solid reference as opposed to trusting in a systemic approval stamp.

[Kendall4U]

Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

I mean as opposed to the normal reference check. I could be wrong though. Hey, it works for P411. I guess I put myself in the providers situation, I would at least want to get confirmation from one solid reference as opposed to trusting in a systemic approval stamp.

Just an aside....we don't have to give an okay on P411. I have declined a few over the years and gave my reasoning to Gina or the staff.
I much prefer to have guys use p411 to set up appts because the bs here on Eccie is getting deeper every day.

[grean]

Originally Posted by Invisible1

Keep it simple.
How about having verified guy members? Must be verified by 3 verified providers that the guy has seen and written a review on. After verification, a mark can be put in the guy's profile or stat page. Then have it expire after 12 months or so from the last verification from a provider. After the initial 3 verifications a guy can stay verified with one review and the provider to verify they saw him once every 12 months.

Also, there should be no requirement that a verified provider verify a guy.

Easy to program, easy to use.

This sounds good.

[grean]

Originally Posted by Kendall4U

Just an aside....we don't have to give an okay on P411. I have declined a few over the years and gave my reasoning to Gina or the staff.
I much prefer to have guys use p411 to set up appts because the bs here on Eccie is getting deeper every day.

Wouldn't a system like invisible1 suggested cut out some of the bs here, at least for business purposes? The bs mostly is in the coed forum, is it not?

I do think if the women had a way to not necessarily review but maybe had something similar to an employment verification system. Did somebody work where and when they said and would you rehire them.

Translated to this board.....

Seen on mm/dd/yy in "city" for incall or out call

Would you see him again or refer him to someone else, yes or no, and a brief explanation.

10/3/15 Dallas out call.
5/1/14 FTW incal.


Yes. Great guy. Happy to see him again.

Yes. I would refer him to someone else. He was polite and paid, but we just didn't click.

No. Bad smell and wanted menu items not offered

[Invisible1]

Originally Posted by Invisible1

Keep it simple.
How about having verified guy members? Must be verified by 3 verified providers that the guy has seen and written a review on. After verification, a mark can be put in the guy's profile or stat page. Then have it expire after 12 months or so from the last verification from a provider. After the initial 3 verifications a guy can stay verified with one review and the provider to verify they saw him once every 12 months.

Also, there should be no requirement that a verified provider verify a guy.

Easy to program, easy to use.

I have to point out, this system wont necessarily mean that a verified guy is safe or a gentleman. It only means that he is verified as a hobbyist. Getting references is always a safer thing to do, bc most data collection systems are not fool proof.

On the other hand, a verified provider is not necessarily a safe or good provider..... She is just verified as being a provider and will lose her verified status if she is inactive for six? or 12? months.

Sooooo, i still think it is a good idea to make it so guys, like providers, can choose to get verified as a hobbyist on eccie.

One step safer is better than standing still.

[grean]

Originally Posted by Invisible1

I have to point out, this system wont necessarily mean that a verified guy is safe or a gentleman. It only means that he is verified as a hobbyist. Getting references is always a safer thing to do, bc most data collection systems are not fool proof.

On the other hand, a verified provider is not necessarily a safe or good provider..... She is just verified as being a provider and will lose her verified status if she is inactive for six? or 12? months.

Sooooo, i still think it is a good idea to make it so guys, like providers, can choose to get verified as a hobbyist on eccie.

One step safer is better than standing still.

I guess we need to define safe.

Verification for a provider means they have submitted a referral or review from a known hobbiest and or a website link and, if they appear young, they got a driver's licence to prove they are 18.

From that I can infer if I see a girl who's verified, she is legal and has spread her ass for cash before for a guy that the mods know is legit.

That's it.

Will my dick fall off or will I get shook down by her pimp are questions not answered by a girl being verified on thus board.

[grean]

Can't this be attached to our profiles like the reviews are attached to the providers? Make it invisible to guys.

[KittyLamour]

I think it would be a great idea and am all for it. I agree with Kendall that it's getting tough to get provider references... if you can even get someone to respond it's days after the fact...

For reasons of their own choosing, not everyone uses P411. So some type of client verification would be really helpful.

[SexyPlatinum]

This would be better well for me. Asking ladies for something is like pulling a damn tooth.

[DarkeyKong]

IMO, I think it would be beneficial for us to know which of our references suck. This way, we can discontinue to use them and provide future providers with better references.

[izzy32]

Honestly for me, if it's not broke why break it. I just stay with p411, easier for both parties in my opinion. But DK I do agree with you about knowing which providers to use and not use as refs.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by Prolongus

Sadly, I kinda agree with you.
Here's the thing in the business world: you innovate and improve or you die. MySpace was a cool idea. Facebook made it (social media) cooler.

Stemming from above...

Although most ladies have a different perspective on the entire reference deal, here's my take:

My (extra) income from this NEVER depends on the word of a stranger. A woman who I have never met before conducting illegal business. No, we are not all "friends". This is business.

I am a reference friendly companion, and I respond to references promptly and always send a gracious thank you message, however when gents send me their references, I always send them a link to my screening form also known as my Affair application. I do this in case none of the references respond in enough time (or at all). By all means, It's not the references fault, and these ladies are not entitled to give me their time (hell, they could be at work, with family, a multi-hour, court, none of your business) because I don't want to (learn how to) do my own homework or *develop* a screening process not involving other parties regarding me and intimacy with a gentleman. Not only that, I am very discreet. This means I don't want providers and companions knowing who I am fucking... or who the gentleman is about to fuck for that matter.

References definitely do make screening easy, especially when the gentleman has no online presence or even a couple reviews to prove he is safe. But again as mentioned before, what may be polite, safe and generous to one companion, may be the polar opposite to another. That's why I feel it's important for *professional* companions to develop their own screening process fitting their business and personal preferences/needs. Can't do it? Join an agency. Just like references, they do all the redundant screening for you! Just expect to split all your money

In addition to WHY some ladies are not reference friendly because she intends to have the client for herself (), there are even more professional companions who simply don't feel it fair that they took their time out their day to screen him through her lengthy screening process just to tell another woman a simple "yay or nay". Keep in mind that we sell our time and it takes time to give and respond to a reference. On the other hand sometimes I don't like asking for references or contacting references when they are provided in case the gentleman does not follow through with an appointment. Not only have I wasted my time screening, but I've wasted the references time in responding to me and going back in her records and notes to see if he is safe.

Do you really think I'd pass on pleasurable experiences and profitable opportunities because so and so provider happens to have her family day the same day I want to screw a man's brains out and need a response within the next couple of hours?? Nope. I'm not the one, the two, or three. So guess what I did for discretion's sake as well as my nerves? I adapted.

#evolve

[pmdelites]

1. i thought this was an "Escort Client Community Information Exchange" ??, not a provider reference clearing board.

2. while it's only been 8 hrs since the original post, notice how none of the mods nor none of the owners have replied/responded on this? that tells me something.

3. just cos there might be a forum or interface where providers could search for a client's OK, the existence of one or more OKs or Not OKs for a client doesnt necessarily mean squat. there are too many factors that could short-circuit or bypass the process.

4. a forum or interface where providers could search for a client's OK might lead some providers to slack off on their screening process(es) and could cause problems in the future ("but, he had 6 OKs on eccie!!!" as she relates how a client ripped her off or something else...).


finally, is this a BIG problem that MANY providers are experiences VERY FREQUENTLY ??
if not, this looks like a solution looking for a problem.
if so, let the providers come up w/ their own screening info website.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

1. i thought this was an "Escort Client Community Information Exchange" ??, not a provider reference clearing board.

2. while it's only been 8 hrs since the original post, notice how none of the mods nor none of the owners have replied/responded on this? that tells me something.

3. just cos there might be a forum or interface where providers could search for a client's OK, the existence of one or more OKs or Not OKs for a client doesnt necessarily mean squat. there are too many factors that could short-circuit or bypass the process.

4. a forum or interface where providers could search for a client's OK might lead some providers to slack off on their screening process(es) and could cause problems in the future ("but, he had 6 OKs on eccie!!!" as she relates how a client ripped her off or something else...).


finally, is this a BIG problem that MANY providers are experiences VERY FREQUENTLY ??
if not, this looks like a solution looking for a problem.
if so, let the providers come up w/ their own screening info website.

No not for me. But occasionally references don't respond when I want them to or need them to respond. Even less do references not respond at all but it does happen... Maybe I just don't notice it though because I develop my own screening process like I mentioned before