What happened on Oct 7 one year ago was horrific. Israel's response? Genocide and state-sponsored terrorism..

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Apologies if they're in order Waco Kid. I'd ask what the women were like, but figure since there are mobs of Israeli men in Colombia pursing Latina poontang, they must not be worth writing home about.

I hope this mess comes to a peaceful end soon. Israel's a nuclear power and Iran can be at the drop of a hat.

the Israeli girls were hot. and all in the IDF.

Iran is a nuke rookie .. we'll see how good their soviet designed stuff is .. anyone want to bet their nation on how good the mega hi tech Israeli stuff is?


and Iran "might" have a few ready to go. what does anyone estimate Israel already has?

[pxmcc]

^^Waco i appreciate that you do your homework. initially, i thought you saying that there was a generous offer to the Palestinians post 47. the Palestians of course haven't gotten any great offers post 1947. Ehud Barak's wasn't a great offer, but i ask my libtard friends how the Palestinians are in any way better off today for having refused it. anyway, i'll study both your posts before i reply.

[Yssup Rider]

This shit has to stop.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

the Israeli girls were hot. and all in the IDF.

Iran is a nuke rookie .. we'll see how good their soviet designed stuff is .. anyone want to bet their nation on how good the mega hi tech Israeli stuff is?


and Iran "might" have a few ready to go. what does anyone estimate Israel already has?

You'd have to ask if Iran is that stupid to unleash any type of device that is half-baked, and then they get rained down on by everyone else in the area, or by the US. I cannot believe the saudi's and other countries would allow that, even with their hatred for Israel.

I mean, you don't want to irradiate the region for a statement, and kill the enemy and yourself in the process. It just doesn't make any sense.

Besides that- who will they use as boogieman for aligning their subjects if they were to get rid of Israel? The US? HA, Im sure we are already public enemy #2 if not #1 anyway.

I agree that there needs to be a halt to the back n forth bloody nose agenda, but where do you draw the line and decide to get a cease-fire. It's the big-ball show, and nobody with a sense of what to do, and what's the right thing over there. It's a 2 eyes for an eye mentality- eventually you run out of eyes.

Based on a quick search: Israel's nuke capabilities-

The State of Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons. Estimates of Israel's stockpile range between 90 and 400 nuclear warheads, and the country is believed to possess the ability to deliver them in several methods, including by aircraft, as submarine-launched cruise missiles, and via the Jericho series of intermediate to intercontinental range ballistic missiles.

[DEAR_JOHN]

I have distant family that got out of eastern Europe just in time or they would've been on a train headed to a concentration camp. The thing is, from the viewpoint of Jewish relatives I have, is that they got caught flat footed during the holocaust, but this will never happen again. The mindset of the Jewish people is that it's better to die with a gun in hand than to be escorted to the showers, never to leave alive. I've also walked the halls of Houston's holocaust museum with a Jewish nephew and looked with horror at some of the pictures that were shown.

During WWII my father arrived in time to free up one of the concentration camps and it haunted him until he died. I was his only son and he would never talk to me about what he saw, except one time he said it was horrible beyond words.

So of course they will protect themselves and from what I can remember the Jews didn't start a war on October 7th. They were reactive, not proactive.

Not only that, but they still have 7 American hostages being held. It looks to me like biden/harris and their supporters are a bunch of gutless eunuches, scared to death to defend our allies and our own people.

There's far too many idiots carrying the flag of palestine thinking it's cool and haven't picked up a history book to have a clue what they're supporting.

[Jacky S]

Hamas is the elected Government of Gaza. The people of Gaza voted for them.

In 1941 through 1945 in NAZI Germany, The National Socialist were elected by the German people.

We bombed the crap out of every German City. There were no “innocent” civilians.

Japan suffered the same fate.

The citizens of Gaza are not “innocent” civilians. The chose and support their Government and it’s atrocities.

[1blackman1]

On this we agree.

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by Jacky S

Hamas is the elected Government of Gaza. The people of Gaza voted for them.

In 1941 through 1945 in NAZI Germany, The National Socialist were elected by the German people.

We bombed the crap out of every German City. There were no “innocent” civilians.

Japan suffered the same fate.

The citizens of Gaza are not “innocent” civilians. The chose and support their Government and it’s atrocities.

Exactly the same reasoning used to justify the attacks of Oct. 7, and 9/11 as well. We might need better reasoning, something with a dash of humanity.

[pxmcc]

a recent poll of civilians in Gaza found about 2 to 1 that the civilians of Gaza are opposed to what Hamas did on Oct 7. a few interviewed were like, "wtf was Hamas thinking? Gee, I wonder how Netanyahu will respond.."

the civilians of Gaza were not consulted before Oct 7.

Originally Posted by Jacky S

Hamas is the elected Government of Gaza. The people of Gaza voted for them.

In 1941 through 1945 in NAZI Germany, The National Socialist were elected by the German people.

We bombed the crap out of every German City. There were no “innocent” civilians.

Japan suffered the same fate.

The citizens of Gaza are not “innocent” civilians. The chose and support their Government and it’s atrocities.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by yeahsurewhatev

Exactly the same reasoning used to justify the attacks of Oct. 7, and 9/11 as well. We might need better reasoning, something with a dash of humanity.

The problem with that is one side wishes to live in peace among it’s neighbors, while the other wants to annihilate it’s neighbor.

“From the River to the Sea”. That is not just a slogan, it is a battle cry to inspire the terrorist of now and in the future.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Several folks need to read the definition of war.

[yeahsurewhatev]

I guess if the rules are that the argument takes place in your version of fantasyland . . .

Originally Posted by Jacky S

The problem with that is one side wishes to live in peace among it’s neighbors, while the other wants to annihilate it’s neighbor.

“From the River to the Sea”. That is not just a slogan, it is a battle cry to inspire the terrorist of now and in the future.

. . . you're right. I made the mistake of thinking this was about reality.

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Several folks need to read the definition of war.

And some people need to read, and maybe those peace-lovers in Jacky's imagination might consider for one second paying attention to, the rules of war.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

This shit has to stop.

this ends only two ways. Israel wipes out hamas and Iran if need be. or the US and that useless sack of nwo bullshit the UN actually does something and forces a two state solution.

the "arab brotherhood" won't give up one lousy hectare of land for their "oppressed brothers" just like 1946.

there's only one nation the arabs hate more than themselves .. Israel.

so the solution is the combined military occupation of the Sinai which Israel won in 1967 and give a large portion to the Palestinians as their own nation. whether they like it or NOT.

Originally Posted by yeahsurewhatev

And some people need to read, and maybe those peace-lovers in Jacky's imagination might consider for one second paying attention to, the rules of war.

Israel abides by the rules of war. those goat herding racist terrorists do not. until then Israel can use any and all means to eliminate hamas and the collateral damage is on hamas. until there is no hamas.


there is only one rule of war. Win.

[pxmcc]

the only problem is, and i said it from day 1, that this war isn't "winnable". all Israel has accomplished is turned the young boys who survive this nightmare into future terrorists.

i said from day 1 that Israel should set some achievable goals such as killing or capturing the Hamas commanders who planned and executed October 7.

Hamas is tough enough that they will live to fight another day, and smart enough to take the hostages they did. Israel is in a no-win war. it's time for the U.S. to stop offering Bibi gunboat cover. he's totally out of control, and gives 0 fooks for private advice and direction from the U. S. president. why should we be on the hook for the actions of this dangerous cowboy?

we have zero national interest in the Middle East. due to fracking, we are the world's number one oil producer. and with "friends" like the Saudis, who needs enemies? finally, our national interest is in the western Pacific (the far east), specifically China; the Middle East has been a huge distraction for way too long. supporting Israel is not in the U.S. national interest. it's high time they took care of themselves.

Bibi will never agree to a 2 state solution. it will have to be forced on him; i think it should be. he's a Zionist who wants the Palestinians killed or expelled from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, in violation of international law. he's not someone you can reasonably negotiate with. his idea in this war was to make life in Gaza so unbearable that Gazans would leave of their own accord. that is unlikely to happen, although he did make life unbearable there. he engaged in collective punishment of the people of Gaza, which is a war crime. (of course Hamas also committed war crimes.)

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

this ends only two ways. Israel wipes out hamas and Iran if need be. or the US and that useless sack of nwo bullshit the UN actually does something and forces a two state solution.

the "arab brotherhood" won't give up one lousy hectare of land for their "oppressed brothers" just like 1946.

there's only one nation the arabs hate more than themselves .. Israel.

so the solution is the combined military occupation of the Sinai which Israel won in 1967 and give a large portion to the Palestinians as their own nation. whether they like it or NOT.





Israel abides by the rules of war. those goat herding racist terrorists do not. until then Israel can use any and all means to eliminate hamas and the collateral damage is on hamas. until there is no hamas.


there is only one rule of war. Win.