Looks like it's going into extra innings

[nevergaveitathought]

Sullivan seems to have a tinge of animus toward Flynn

likely he's on the other side of the fence politically and it shows

he went so far as to accuse Flynn of treason, but under duress he had to walk it back

now he's looking for a toehold to what? base a conviction on?

[oeb11]

Gerald Ford's pardon of richard Nixon - there were no charges against Nixon .
XiNN be drned - they only have a socialist radical opinion - .

[Jacuzzme]

Desperation move to give the media a chance to try’n make stupid people think Flynn actually did something nefarious.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Desperation move to give the media a chance to try’n make stupid people think Flynn actually did something nefarious.

you might be right, you just might be right

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Desperation move to give the media a chance to try’n make stupid people think Flynn actually did something nefarious.

It’s actually to make the DOJ look bad. If Sullivan convicts Flynn will surely appeal and it will be thrown out in a higher court. Flynn can sue for his legal fees that amount to 6.7 million at this point. That might take awhile, but vindication in the end. Let Sullivan have “his” day in court.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by bambino

It’s actually to make the DOJ look bad. If Sullivan convicts Flynn will surely appeal and it will be thrown out in a higher court. Flynn can sue for his legal fees that amount to 6.7 million at this point. That might take awhile, but vindication in the end. Let Sullivan have “his” day in court.

thats my thinking if sullivan rides this thing out.


flynn is going to have to appeal to the appeals court. they'll likely have to take a deeper look at the flynn case.

[The_Waco_Kid]

isn't Sullivan defying his bosses the DOJ by not dismissing the case? don't people who defy their boss usually get fired?



also if the DOJ is dropping the case how can Sullivan even convict Flynn now?

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

isn't Sullivan defying his bosses the DOJ by not dismissing the case? don't people who defy their boss usually get fired?



also if the DOJ is dropping the case how can Sullivan even convict Flynn now?

the judiciary is a separate branch of government

doj is part of the executive

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

isn't Sullivan defying his bosses the DOJ by not dismissing the case? don't people who defy their boss usually get fired?



also if the DOJ is dropping the case how can Sullivan even convict Flynn now?

Two things.

First, Sullivan is part of the Judical branch of government not under the DOJ which is an executive branch office. The attorney's pressing charges against Flynn were DOJ not the judge.

This is partially in my opinion why he's flexing his muscle at this point.

Second, Flynn was already found guilty in Sullivan's court so the DOJ is technically out of it at this point since all that remained was for Sullivan to sentence. At that point Flynn can appeal to another court who will almost certainly take the advice of the DOJ at that point and throw the case out.

Again, in my opinion, Sullivan is just delaying to flex his muscle and stay relevant in the case.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccielover

Two things.

First, Sullivan is part of the Judical branch of government not under the DOJ which is an executive branch office. The attorney's pressing charges against Flynn were DOJ not the judge.

This is partially in my opinion why he's flexing his muscle at this point.

Second, Flynn was already found guilty in Sullivan's court so the DOJ is technically out of it at this point since all that remained was for Sullivan to sentence. At that point Flynn can appeal to another court who will almost certainly take the advice of the DOJ at that point and throw the case out.

Again, in my opinion, Sullivan is just delaying to flex his muscle and stay relevant in the case.

so he's being a political asshole just because he can. okay. got it.


in a way this might be best after all. have Sullivan bring in all relevant briefs pro and con, hear both sides one last time. barring any major reveal to actually implicate Flynn then Sullivan should allow Flynn to withdraw his plea and dismiss the charges.


if Sullivan denies Flynn's motion to withdraw and sentences him then it's a mandatory appeal and review where once again a higher court will overrule one of these "legislate from the bench" fucktard judges.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

isn't Sullivan defying his bosses the DOJ by not dismissing the case? don't people who defy their boss usually get fired?



also if the DOJ is dropping the case how can Sullivan even convict Flynn now?

[Munchmasterman]

I could do a "if you say so" but I'll go with pointing out how wrong you are.
Sullivan's move forces the DOJ to prove they aren't being a political asshole just because they can.
Because Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Because he lied to the FBI. Plus you know Sullivan is considering charging Flynn with perjury for swearing to his own guilt and then reneging on his plea deal.

Now you can do your "if you say so".
Don't forget. Flynn has admitted he lied to the FBI. That is an unchangeable fact. An even bigger asshole than yourself. Trump's national security advisor who calls the Russian embassy on an open line. What a douche-bag.

Did you get that?

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so he's being a political asshole just because he can. okay. got it.


in a way this might be best after all. have Sullivan bring in all relevant briefs pro and con, hear both sides one last time. barring any major reveal to actually implicate Flynn then Sullivan should allow Flynn to withdraw his plea and dismiss the charges.


if Sullivan denies Flynn's motion to withdraw and sentences him then it's a mandatory appeal and review where once again a higher court will overrule one of these "legislate from the bench" fucktard judges.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

I could do a "if you say so" but I'll go with pointing out how wrong you are.
Sullivan's move forces the DOJ to prove they aren't being a political asshole just because they can.
Because Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Because he lied to the FBI. Plus you know Sullivan is considering charging Flynn with perjury for swearing to his own guilt and then reneging on his plea deal.

Now you can do your "if you say so".
Don't forget. Flynn has admitted he lied to the FBI. That is an unchangeable fact. An even bigger asshole than yourself. Trump's national security advisor who calls the Russian embassy on an open line. What a douche-bag.

Did you get that?

You are wrong, a Judge can’t “charge” anyone with anything. Only the prosecution can bring charges. The Judicial system decides, not charges.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by eccielover

Two things.

First, Sullivan is part of the Judical branch of government not under the DOJ which is an executive branch office. The attorney's pressing charges against Flynn were DOJ not the judge.

This is partially in my opinion why he's flexing his muscle at this point.

Second, Flynn was already found guilty in Sullivan's court so the DOJ is technically out of it at this point since all that remained was for Sullivan to sentence. At that point Flynn can appeal to another court who will almost certainly take the advice of the DOJ at that point and throw the case out.

Again, in my opinion, Sullivan is just delaying to flex his muscle and stay relevant in the case.

I agree. Sullivan is being a Prima Dona and what he’s doing is unprecedented. Flynn’s cased will be tossed out on appeal.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

...Trump's national security advisor who calls the Russian embassy on an open line. What a douche-bag....

So, in your considered opinion; A person with 20+ years of working in intelligence did not consider that his call with a Russian ambassador would be monitored?!? Or are you saying that that call was a violation of some law?!? Just trying to understand the predicate involved in even investigating anything about the call.