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Old 07-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #16
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I go skiing almost every winter. I stay ski-in-ski-out, and dress, eat and drink like a lord. That doesn't make me bad. I don't like Michelle because she's an entitled racist bitch and an intellectual snob not because of her vacations.

that statement could cover a hell of a lot of women I have met.....
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #17
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Gotta admit. Ekim has a point. Present company, Olivia, NOT included!
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:45 PM   #18
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Her vacations are symptomaitic of her elitist views; and her lavish trips are at our expense, during a time of extreme financial hardships....it would be nice to see a first lady be frugal, no extravagant.

Like I said before; Michelle is reading the Team Obama internal polling numbers and she know her days in the White House and taxpayer junkets is coming to an end.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:55 PM   #19
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Her vacations are symptomaitic of her elitist views; and her lavish trips are at our expense, during a time of extreme financial hardships....it would be nice to see a first lady be frugal, no extravagant.

Like I said before; Michelle is reading the Team Obama internal polling numbers and she know her days in the White House and taxpayer junkets is coming to an end.

rumor has it 2 sets of silverwear were missing right after Bush checked out of the white house


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Old 07-24-2012, 04:00 PM   #20
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that statement could cover a hell of a lot of women I have met.....

Ya, but I pay for mine.


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Her vacations are symptomaitic of her elitist views; and her lavish trips are at our expense, during a time of extreme financial hardships....it would be nice to see a first lady be frugal, no extravagant.
I actually believe that the First Family are entitled to travel, dress, dine, educate their children in any fashion that is congruent with their social and economic class. The Obamas are multimillionaires, thus I don't see any problem with them taking a nice ski trip. Is this trip over the top of what they could afford? I don't know. I thought the Spain trip with the Insane Clown Posse in tow was a bit much.

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Like I said before; Michelle is reading the Team Obama internal polling numbers and she know her days in the White House and taxpayer junkets is coming to an end.
Interesting thought. It all depends on how elaborate the ski trip was. [see above]
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:29 PM   #21
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rumor has it 2 sets of silverwear were missing right after Bush checked out of the white house


I may be mistaken, but I do believe that was the Clintons
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I have no issues with vacations, working vacations or otherwise.
I dont hate Moochelle Obama or her idiot husband.
What I find interesting is the duplicitous nature of the first family when Obama speaks of not drivng your SUVs or setting your thermostat on 72 is acceptable behavior yet jetting all over the world on the taxpayer dime is. The do as I say not as I do does not wash with me.
On the other hand, I don't think that Obama has criticized government spending so why should his wife be concerned.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:38 PM   #23
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I may be mistaken, but I do believe that was the Clintons

ok, 2 rumors ...

who knew ..

looks like Obie is SOL in the spoon and fork dept

is the china nailed down?
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:31 PM   #24
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ok, 2 rumors ...

who knew ..

looks like Obie is SOL in the spoon and fork dept

is the china nailed down?
Come on CJ, don't you know you can't drive a nail thru fine china, you'll fuck it up, just like those cocksuckers are trying to fuck up this coutry.....lol
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:32 PM   #25
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Her vacations are symptomaitic of her elitist views; and her lavish trips are at our expense, during a time of extreme financial hardships....it would be nice to see a first lady be frugal, no extravagant.
Yep. And not a peep out of the "occupy" crowd, either hunh?
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:08 PM   #26
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Her vacations are symptomaitic of her elitist views; and her lavish trips are at our expense, during a time of extreme financial hardships....it would be nice to see a first lady be frugal, no extravagant.
If that is then what do you have to say about Laura Bush. During two of the worst market crashes to hit the US since the Great Depression she was going on lavish trips with her two daughter and spending way more than the Obamas.
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So what I gather is that because a previous first lady did it, there is an entitlement for all subsequent first ladies to ignore the fact that every dime spent for their vacations is borrowed.
I think I am clear now on the entitlement mentality.
You would think that Moochelle would want to set an example.
You know, I think she is.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:23 PM   #28
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If that is then what do you have to say about Laura Bush. During two of the worst market crashes to hit the US since the Great Depression she was going on lavish trips with her two daughter and spending way more than the Obamas.
Same thing for ALL of them! Goods times and bad. I have said this since way before the Bushs. Believe me, no one hates the Bushes more than me.

I say 2 weeks vacation - taxpayers foot SS protection and travel, they foot all the rest. Any more than 2 weeks, they pay full freight. Don't like the deal? Then don't run for office. Of course the prez is really never off the clock, so it harder to dial in the policy - but these family folks have got to be reigned in.

I'd like to see this government overthrown, and we get to true representative government. The prez salary us the average US salary. Senator salary is average for that state. Representatives salary is same as their district. Set up dorms for conressmen. All have a 401K, no defined benefit pension, no congressional barber shop, etc...

My state the average income is about 40K. But our senators are paid 5x that? Plus benefits that are unattainable for 99% of the population. And then we complain they are "out of touch." Whadda ya expect?

Don't like the package? don't run for office!
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Source please; otherwise you are just blowing smoke with your opinions and phony assertions.


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Old 07-24-2012, 10:22 PM   #30
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Source please; otherwise you are just blowing smoke with your opinions and phony assertions.
You just can't admit that a Republican was worse can you? The trips of Laura Bush is much more documented than the trips of the Obamas.


I could site pages of sources but you would not believe any of them.
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