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Old 12-12-2018, 05:49 PM   #16
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So basically the parents and grandparents of Millennial's did a shitty job of parenting
Interesting question. Hell if I know. StandinStraight says he's a college professor with a PhD in political science. So I was trying to make it personal by zeroing in specifically on the bright young minds academics are brainwashing. The Millennial's grandparents may have been more socialist leaning than they are. I think Millennials turned out better than us when it comes to social issues, except they are less tolerant of free speech. And worse on economic issues as many expect cradle to grave coddling. If they had been subjected to nonstop John Wayne movies and the like when they were little tikes they might have turned out better in that respect.
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Old 12-12-2018, 05:56 PM   #17
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The wealth was always in control of the government. They kept their people poor.
Which is exactly what Pelosi and Chucky Boy wanna do, Keep drinking the Liberal cool aid.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:26 PM   #18
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The reason we have so many socialists in this country today is for the same reason we had so many communists in the 1930's during the depression. There used to be a social contract between business and labor that has broken down. When corporations treat labor like a commodity to be bought and sold at will people find that the socialist idea of fair play and fair wages to be very compelling. Why work hard for your employer when they will fire you whenever they need to boost the stock price to line their own pockets and the pockets of their stockholders.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:23 PM   #19
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The reason we have so many socialists in this country today is for the same reason we had so many communists in the 1930's during the depression. There used to be a social contract between business and labor that has broken down. When corporations treat labor like a commodity to be bought and sold at will people find that the socialist idea of fair play and fair wages to be very compelling. Why work hard for your employer when they will fire you whenever they need to boost the stock price to line their own pockets and the pockets of their stockholders.

a completely false critique of Capitalism. what social contract do you refer to? Unions? that out of date concept, that Labor laws made obsolete? that nearly broke the back of an industry America invented, the Automotive Industry? A pension? what social contract?

far as i'm concerned the only social contract you get is you are allowed to live. Until you die. the rest is up to you.
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Interesting question. Hell if I know. StandinStraight says he's a college professor with a PhD in political science. So I was trying to make it personal by zeroing in specifically on the bright young minds academics are brainwashing. The Millennial's grandparents may have been more socialist leaning than they are. I think Millennials turned out better than us when it comes to social issues, except they are less tolerant of free speech. And worse on economic issues as many expect cradle to grave coddling. If they had been subjected to nonstop John Wayne movies and the like when they were little tikes they might have turned out better in that respect.
The very same people who voted for Trump are the ones who have adult children living in their houses and longing for " the good old days" when America was great. The parents created this victim mentality in the Millennials. They are Victims of Victims. That's the biggest complaint I have about Trump people is their constant complaining about others "holding them back".
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a completely false critique of Capitalism. what social contract do you refer to? Unions? that out of date concept, that Labor laws made obsolete? that nearly broke the back of an industry America invented, the Automotive Industry? A pension? what social contract?

far as i'm concerned the only social contract you get is you are allowed to live. Until you die. the rest is up to you.

This belief / attitude is why so many people are attracted to socialism. The concept of shared resources and shared sacrifice flies in the very face of capitalism.

U.S. society requires infrastructure to run properly. Rich and poor alike benefit from it.

What galls me the most is the belief of some that their success is through their effort alone.Their success is rightly earned but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Success in our capitalist system requires there to be a system to succeed in. That system is the infrastructure, education system and the laws that make up our society. The next time someone boasts of their success I hope they realize they couldn't get the same results if they lived in Nigeria, Egypt, or Syria.
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The very same people who voted for Trump are the ones who have adult children living in their houses and longing for " the good old days" when America was great. The parents created this victim mentality in the Millennials. They are Victims of Victims. That's the biggest complaint I have about Trump people is their constant complaining about others "holding them back".
This is the lot of mankind. Socialists breed and they get capitalists. Capitalists breed and they get socialists.
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This is the lot of mankind. Socialists breed and they get capitalists. Capitalists breed and they get socialists.
That's funny Tiny. I suspect these capitalists "breeding" socialists don't know how to raise kids
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I prefer to breed with socialists, they're better in bed. I remember back in the day when I infiltrated the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade. Some of the women had hair under their arms but they were damn fine lays.
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This belief / attitude is why so many people are attracted to socialism. The concept of shared resources and shared sacrifice flies in the very face of capitalism.

U.S. society requires infrastructure to run properly. Rich and poor alike benefit from it.

What galls me the most is the belief of some that their success is through their effort alone.Their success is rightly earned but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Success in our capitalist system requires there to be a system to succeed in. That system is the infrastructure, education system and the laws that make up our society. The next time someone boasts of their success I hope they realize they couldn't get the same results if they lived in Nigeria, Egypt, or Syria.
Todays Republican doesn't believe that. The paradox is they are todays Victims blaming everyone for their problems. Its the liberals fault, its the Mexicans fault, its the Muslims fault, its Mueller's fault, its Hillary's fault, its Chinas fault, and on and on and on. You take Fred Trump out of the mix and Donald owns a couple of duplex's in Queens
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This belief / attitude is why so many people are attracted to socialism. The concept of shared resources and shared sacrifice flies in the very face of capitalism.

U.S. society requires infrastructure to run properly. Rich and poor alike benefit from it.

What galls me the most is the belief of some that their success is through their effort alone.Their success is rightly earned but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Success in our capitalist system requires there to be a system to succeed in. That system is the infrastructure, education system and the laws that make up our society. The next time someone boasts of their success I hope they realize they couldn't get the same results if they lived in Nigeria, Egypt, or Syria.
I agree. And since we all share in the benefits offered by our modern capitalistic society, it is up to the initiative of each individule to determine how they will take advantage of these benefits in order to become the best they can be.

So the next time someone gripes and complains about never catching a break, and declares themselves to be a perpetual victim, I will remind them that all I started with after I did my two years in the Army, (Draftee), was the high school education the State furnished me.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:40 PM   #27
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This belief / attitude is why so many people are attracted to socialism. The concept of shared resources and shared sacrifice flies in the very face of capitalism.

U.S. society requires infrastructure to run properly. Rich and poor alike benefit from it.

What galls me the most is the belief of some that their success is through their effort alone.Their success is rightly earned but it doesn't exist in a vacuum.


are you channeling Obama?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GjqdP6KSOE


What galls me the most is the belief of some that my intelligence and hard work is theirs to enjoy. it is NOT.



Success in our capitalist system requires there to be a system to succeed in. That system is the infrastructure, education system and the laws that make up our society. The next time someone boasts of their success I hope they realize they couldn't get the same results if they lived in Nigeria, Egypt, or Syria.
yet there are rich people in Nigeria, Egypt, and Syria which you claim is impossible.


so how is that possible???

BAHAHAHAHAAA
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Let’s see, it’s never worked before... great idea... not!!!
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This belief / attitude is why so many people are attracted to socialism. The concept of shared resources and shared sacrifice flies in the very face of capitalism.

U.S. society requires infrastructure to run properly. Rich and poor alike benefit from it.

What galls me the most is the belief of some that their success is through their effort alone.Their success is rightly earned but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Success in our capitalist system requires there to be a system to succeed in. That system is the infrastructure, education system and the laws that make up our society. The next time someone boasts of their success I hope they realize they couldn't get the same results if they lived in Nigeria, Egypt, or Syria.
Your analysis is flawed. By-and-large most Americans enjoy the same benefits because they share every advantage you list. Person A and Person B have access to the same roads, schools, public utilities, infrastructure so and so forth. Whatever you say is there to elevate Person A is also there, and in place, to elevate Person B to the same level or starting point.

Meanwhile, socialism doesn't elevate anyone at all. It lowers everyone to the same, common level.



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Todays dim-retards don't believe that. The paradox is they are todays Victims blaming Russia, Russia, Russia. Its the Russians fault, its the Russians fault, its the Russians fault, its Russia's fault, its Putin's fault, its Russia's fault, and on and on and on.
FTFY
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