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06-10-2011, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by John Bull
So here come the excuses "He's just an ordinary man"; "He didn't claim to be perfect"; "He's just a good Democrat" hohoho
If he'd been a Republican, ya'll would like to hang him from the nearest tree. And that's the fact of the matter and the hypocrisy.
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Just like we did Noot and Ensign - you guys crack me up.
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06-10-2011, 08:10 AM
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well his cock is HUGE so maybe that is true :-))
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You've seen the picture?
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06-10-2011, 08:23 AM
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If we turn our attention to something more compelling than politics....football!!!!....and look to Columbus Ohio & Jim Tressel we see the time old truism play out:
"The coverup is worse than the crime*"
I think in this case we have the same thing. The lies after getting caught with the hand in the cookie jar are far worse than taking the cookies.
*not saying what Tressel or Weiner did was literally "criminal"
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06-10-2011, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by atlcomedy
"The coverup is worse than the crime*"
I think in this case we have the same thing. The lies after getting caught with the hand in the cookie jar are far worse than taking the cookies.
*not saying what Tressel or Weiner did was literally "criminal"
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atl, WTF is wrong with covering up your weiner ?
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06-10-2011, 08:38 AM
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Covering it up like this:
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06-10-2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
No he did not.
Jez.
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Are you really suggesting that the emphasis of his campaign was: “Vote for the other guy, he’ll do a better job representing you than I can.” Really?
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Originally Posted by WTF
Do I think what he did was more stupid than say Vitter ? Yes. WAs it aganist the law like Vitter? No.
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Didn’t we render the Vitter case a moot point in our discussion yesterday? We’re talking about unmitigated arrogance, not unmitigated stupidity.
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Originally Posted by WTF
This thing will be done when the next big story hits.
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True, if he resigns, and then only until the divorce. If not, it won’t be over until November 2012.
http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2011...iners-job.html
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Originally Posted by WTF
Do any of you know wtf is going on with the nuke in Japan? Didn't think so.
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Utility reprimanded over 2 workers' high radiation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110610/...RpbGl0eXJlcHJp
But this stories concerns me more:
Gates blasts NATO, questions future of alliance
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...731?source=rss
or this one….
Vietnam to hold live-fire drill in S.China Sea
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110610...RuYW10b2hvbA--
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This too will pass.
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True enough, like a good bowel movement. Then he too will get flushed.
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06-10-2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy4Candy
Oh, horse pucky! You're missing the point AGAIN (heh heh heh). What he DIDN'T do is campaign on how moral of a person he is and how everyone should emulate him or at least let him lead them to Valhalla.
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OMG!!! Please pray for the unfortunate deceived!!!
1+1=2
2+2=4
etc., and dishonorable actions have consequences.
According to a recent poll, 73% of Weiner’s constituency believe he acted unethically. 56% percent are still loyal to “the member”, and believe he should remain in Congress. Yet, only 48% believe he’ll be an effective legislator on the Hill, and 43% are fairly certain he’ll be ineffective.
He campaigned and promised to represent his constituency; now, fewer than half believe he still can.
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06-10-2011, 03:10 PM
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Professional Tush Hog.
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Originally Posted by WTF
Then I guess you were for Clinton resigning?
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I think you can make two cases about Clinton: First, the party would have been better off if he had resigned as Gore would have been President for three years before the 2000 elections. Or second, that the over prosecution and persecution of Clinton helped the party more than it hurt. I'm really on the fence about that one.
At the time, I thought he was better off to resign. And in hindsight, given the 2000 election and the fact that no significant legislation was passed in the last two years of Clinton's term, I'm not sure that my initial thought wasn't correct.
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06-10-2011, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
...And in hindsight, given the 2000 election and the fact that no significant legislation was passed in the last two years of Clinton's term, I'm not sure that my initial thought wasn't correct.
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What legislation do you think should have been passed during the last two years of Clinton's second term? Almost everything various congresses passed during the last ten years has been very bad.
And besides, how can you not consider Gramm-Leach-Bliley "significant" legislation?
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I think you can make two cases about Clinton: First, the party would have been better off if he had resigned as Gore would have been President for three years before the 2000 elections. Or second, that the over prosecution and persecution of Clinton helped the party more than it hurt. I'm really on the fence about that one.
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I agree with you here. Regarding your second point, aggressive persecution by the Republican majority seemed like political suicide to me at the time. They weathered it better than I thought they would, but one should never underestimate a Republican congressional majority's ability to shoot itself in the foot. We saw that starkly demonstrated in the mid-'00s, and I think we're beginning to see it again today.
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06-10-2011, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight
And besides, how can you not consider Gramm-Leach-Bliley "significant" legislation?
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maybe we should have renamed it the Mortgage Market Meltdown Enabler Act of 1999.
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06-10-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
OMG!!! Please pray for the unfortunate deceived!!!
1+1=2
2+2=4
etc., and dishonorable actions have consequences. Dang, son, you Re-pubes wrote the book on getting caught with your hands in everything from the cookie jar to some staffer's wife's split. My boy, Weeener didn't even get any - you clowns are gonna have to do better than that.
According to a recent poll, 73% of Weiner’s constituency believe he acted unethically. 56% percent are still loyal to “the member”, and believe he should remain in Congress. Yet, only 48% believe he’ll be an effective legislator on the Hill, and 43% are fairly certain he’ll be ineffective.
He campaigned and promised to represent his constituency; now, fewer than half believe he still can.
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I'm neither unfortunate nor deceived. Hell, sport - you just need learn to think rationally and critically - and not be confused with knee-jerk criticism from the Moral Majority or Religious Right. But, you'd rather keep on giving the good to guys like Ensign, Mark Sanford and the other Re-pubes who are involved in the little "holier than thou" group "The Family" and others of their fascist ilk. I haven't got a clue why folks like you toss in with those clowns for they are clearly craven and cynical yet they ALL pose as upright, moral compasses who are merely asses.
As for Weiner and his district, there'll be an election there soon enough. He'll stand firm and have the last laugh. This thing will blow over in about two more weeks.
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06-10-2011, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Then I guess you were for Clinton resigning?
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Clinton should have resigned. He didn't get impeached for getting a BJ in office, he was impeached for lying under oath. In court it's called perjury and the offender is subject to fines and imprisonment.
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Originally Posted by pjorourke
maybe we should have renamed it the Mortgage Market Meltdown Enabler Act of 1999.
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Would that mean that the repeal of Glass-Steagall becomes the Bank Bail-Out Enabler Act?
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06-10-2011, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy4Candy
I'm neither unfortunate nor deceived. Hell, sport - you just need learn to think rationally and critically - and not be confused with knee-jerk criticism from the Moral Majority or Religious Right. But, you'd rather keep on giving the good to guys like Ensign, Mark Sanford and the other Re-pubes who are involved in the little "holier than thou" group "The Family" and others of their fascist ilk. I haven't got a clue why folks like you toss in with those clowns for they are clearly craven and cynical yet they ALL pose as upright, moral compasses who are merely asses.
As for Weiner and his district, there'll be an election there soon enough. He'll stand firm and have the last laugh. This thing will blow over in about two more weeks.
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Your stereotype doesn't fit the mold when the person typing this leans right, does not practice ANY religion, and believes prostitution should NOT be a crime. Maybe you should become a critical thinker and understand that your ideology is clouding your ability to think factually.
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06-10-2011, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pjorourke
maybe we should have renamed it the Mortgage Market Meltdown Enabler Act of 1999.
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Well, I'm always up for a little truth-in-advertising!
The $800 billion so-called "stimulus package" was named the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, a misnomer if there ever was one.
Perhaps we should rename it the Government Growth, Entitlement Expansion, and Political Payoffs Act of 2009.
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06-10-2011, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pjorourke
Covering it up like this:
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Now there's a weiner anyone could eat and enjoy.
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