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Old 12-10-2012, 06:34 PM   #16
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Stevie, if you're going to claim that IQ studies showing Fox News viewers have lower IQs are valid, you first have to accept that IQ studies IN GENERAL are valid.

You might want to think real hard about the implications of that one before you crow it from the housetops.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:33 PM   #17
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on we have a new contender for DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR? He'll if an Aggie freshman can win the Heisman, an asshole WK can win too, right?
YR,

Man, that was a good one!! Sorry it took a while to answer, I had to think really hard to remember what I would have come back with...in 3rd grade. Oh, now I remember...BURN!!??!!
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:35 PM   #18
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My GAWD, he's back. Musta gotten his bag limit on street queers!
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:49 AM   #19
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Too bad little boy. My IQ is measured at 147 and I do watch Fox news, CNN, ABC, and read the WSJ. I also log onto Drudge, Breitbart, and MSN. Why bother trying to explain to you, you just can't comprehend.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:30 AM   #20
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Too bad little boy. My IQ is measured at 147 and I do watch Fox news, CNN, ABC, and read the WSJ. I also log onto Drudge, Breitbart, and MSN. Why bother trying to explain to you, you just can't comprehend.
So you use at most, 2/3 of your ability.

I would have guessed less than that.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:57 AM   #21
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My GAWD, he's back. Musta gotten his bag limit on street queers!
YR,

There ya go with that projection thing again. You really should just get comfortable with your (homo) sexuality and quit trying to put it on others. I'm sure your drag queen "partners" will be more than happy to hold you while you come to grips with the truth...for their usual fee, of course.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:00 AM   #22
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Too bad little boy. My IQ is measured at 147 and I do watch Fox news, CNN, ABC, and read the WSJ. I also log onto Drudge, Breitbart, and MSN. Why bother trying to explain to you, you just can't comprehend.
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+1. I'm at 146. Ditto on the rest, except for the CNN and PMSNBC thing...why bother??
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:50 AM   #23
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I had no idea we were surrounded by such genius.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:52 AM   #24
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So you use at most, 2/3 of your ability.

I would have guessed less than that.
Muncher,

It's widely accepted that we all only use about 10% of our brain power. I can't imagine how you function with the minuscule percentage that leaves you.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #25
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Your post is based on a hoax. Here's something that isn't a hoax. African-Americans have an average IQ of 85, compared to the overall average of 100. This explains why blacks always lag behind in every endeavor that requires intelligence, and always will.

Stop projecting.

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Your post is based on a hoax. Here's something that isn't a hoax. African-Americans have an average IQ of 85, compared to the overall average of 100. This explains why blacks always lag behind in every endeavor that requires intelligence, and always will.
Actually, that's not true and that's not what the authors said. The Bell Curve is a very frequently misquoted book.

Herrnstein and Murray acknowledged that IQ can change rapidly between generations and that explained why the children of some generations of Europeans (Slavs, I think) tested much higher than their parents generation. That clearly cannot be genetics at work. Children who were brought up in a home where the parents had at least some basic public school education did much better than their parents.

The problems in many AA communities are the abysmal school systems that filed the parents a generation ago and are now failing the kids.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #27
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Actually the book argued that the human intelligence is substantially influenced by both inherited and environmental factors .

But we don't need a book to tell us the reality. We see the dumbed down responses in the Sandbox daily. The blind uninformed devotion. The robot like reactions, with no critical thinking displayed.
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Actually, that's not true and that's not what the authors said. The Bell Curve is a very frequently misquoted book.

Herrnstein and Murray acknowledged that IQ can change rapidly between generations and that explained why the children of some generations of Europeans (Slavs, I think) tested much higher than their parents generation. That clearly cannot be genetics at work. Children who were brought up in a home where the parents had at least some basic public school education did much better than their parents.

The problems in many AA communities are the abysmal school systems that filed the parents a generation ago and are now failing the kids.
Surely you're not suggesting that genetics is not a factor in intelligence. The Bell Curve does conclude that blacks have lower IQ's than other races. It also concludes that genetics is a significant factor, along with environment. The Bell Curve is not simplistic and acknowleges that all races have a full range of IQ's.

Here's a quote from Charles Murray:

It seems highly likely to us that both genes and environment have something to do with racial differences. What might the mix be? We are resolutely agnostic on that issue; as far as we can determine, the evidence does not yet justify an estimate.

I've always been amazed by the firestorm created by The Bell Curve. If the writers had done a scholarly study of kidney function and concluded that African-American kidneys appeared to be prone to failure and that the cause appeared to be genetic, no one would have been offended or angry. No one would have called them racists; but because Murray and Herrnstein dared to suggest that the brain function of one race might be inferior to other races, they've been attacked as monsters.

Herrnstein was barely able to teach at Harvard because of protestors and death threats caused by his published studies on race and IQ . He had to have an armed guard present at his lectures; he was dying of cancer at the time. The left doesn't tolerate freedom of thought very well.

http://bostonreview.net/BR20.6/block.html
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx
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Uh-oh....rule cliff ahead!

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Surely you're not suggesting that genetics is not a factor in intelligence. The Bell Curve does conclude that blacks have lower IQ's than other races. It also concludes that genetics is a significant factor, along with environment. The Bell Curve is not simplistic and acknowleges that all races have a full range of IQ's.

Here's a quote from Charles Murray:

It seems highly likely to us that both genes and environment have something to do with racial differences. What might the mix be? We are resolutely agnostic on that issue; as far as we can determine, the evidence does not yet justify an estimate.

I've always been amazed by the firestorm created by The Bell Curve. If the writers had done a scholarly study of kidney function and concluded that African-American kidneys appeared to be prone to failure and that the cause appeared to be genetic, no one would have been offended or angry. No one would have called them racists; but because Murray and Herrnstein dared to suggest that the brain function of one race might be inferior to other races, they've been attacked as monsters.

Herrnstein was barely able to teach at Harvard because of protestors and death threats caused by his published studies on race and IQ . He had to have an armed guard present at his lectures; he was dying of cancer at the time. The left doesn't tolerate freedom of thought very well.

http://bostonreview.net/BR20.6/block.html
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx
No. I wasn't saying that genetics does not play a role. It plays some role, of course.

I was commenting on the "...and always will" conclusion in your first post. That part was NOT stated by the authors.
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