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02-20-2010, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo-dog
You may be missing a lot of customers at BP and CL... Some of the providers I know say that those sites provide a lot more contacts than ECCIE, ASPD (RIP), etc.
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It's not always easy to screen and they always try to talk you down in price...a real blow to a girls ego. I just don't like it. That's why you might have noticed an earlier thread where I was upset that TER shared one of my ads with City vibe.
Plus I have children I could loose if I was to be busted. No amount of money is worth that. I'll stick to the legit sites or I won't do this at all.
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02-20-2010, 08:30 AM
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I have a friend in my area who advertised on CL...she went on a new date with a guy she had screened...his references came back great...when he came to her incall and turned out to be LE, she lost her kids, and her house...eventually lost her husbasnd too.
I don't want to sound like I am 'too good' for it...but the constant worry of that happening to me, well....I'll give up my days at the salon and my shopping trips before I am willing to do that.
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02-20-2010, 01:57 PM
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Professional Tush Hog.
Join Date: Mar 27, 2009
Location: Here and there.
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Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums
The rate information IS there hun, but you're not the first one to say that...I wonder why it is being missed. It's listed right where it belongs...hmmm
But I do appreciate that you looked!
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Again, I didn't look for more than a minute, but I looked again. There were error messages on Firefox, so I thought maybe it was a browser issue. Tried Chrome. Same result. Still haven't found the prices on your web site. Where are they? This isn't a game like Let's Find Elmo.
http://tiffanycums.escort-site.com
By the way, if the error stuff doesn't come up on your version, to me it shows the following from this page:
http://tiffanycums.escort-site.com/photos.phtml
<!-- Start TER Refer Link -->
<a target="_blank"
href=" http://www.theeroticreview.com/site_...0xMDE3NDEyMzA2">
<img src=" http://www.theeroticreview.com/site_...iewed_seal.gif"
border="0" alt="The Erotic Review">
</a>
<!-- End TER Refer Link -->
Again, I'm not sure what it's supposed to show, but I don't think this is it.
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02-20-2010, 03:17 PM
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#19
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Ohh my web site....I'm sorry, i thought you were referring to p411. I sat that up and forgot about it....didn't know there was a link to it from here. I didn't mean for there to be. I will have to email them and find out what my password is, and get it cleaned up. Thanks hun!
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02-20-2010, 03:37 PM
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fixed! ![Wink](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/wink.gif) Thank you for bringing my attention to it!
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02-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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I think your wise to pass on bp and cl.Locally Arlington announced it was going to conduct a prositution sting and specifically going after those sites.
It sounds as if you are trying to stay low key and selective.Using those sites do not lend themselves to either of those.See the alert section in the Dallas forums.
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02-20-2010, 04:23 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Jan 30, 2010
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Would you be willing to do 6 a week at $100 or only 2 a week at $200?
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02-20-2010, 10:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 26, 2009
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It is smart to avoid CL and BP (for the most part-- there are some areas where BP is a legit resource). As a I client, there is too much trash to sift through on CL/BP to make it worthwhile.
Have you advertised on Escorts.com or EROS? What about and TER and BD? Do you have reviews posted there?
I think the travel idea is good, but if you have other commitments then you have to prioritize. Given your location, your best bet is probably OKC. Set a date far enough in advance and then get the word out on your travel plans.
I wouldn't tinker with volume or price. You know what is most comfortable for you and your situation. Besides, being over-exposed (so to speak) is something to consider from a negative perspective.
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02-20-2010, 11:09 PM
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Professional Tush Hog.
Join Date: Mar 27, 2009
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I use P411 as a gateway, but prefer the independent web sites because they generally have more pictures. I may be alone in this habit, but I doubt it.
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02-21-2010, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Apr 5, 2009
Location: Eatin' Peaches
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I wish I had some brilliant advice for you other than what has been stated re: geography. I would say "hang in there." I've heard from more than one low volume lady that it is not unusual for there to be long dry spells without new clients.
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Originally Posted by ibechill
Why don't you ask your previous clients why they arent repeat visitors? That should give you a gauge on why your not busy.
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Originally Posted by dirty diana
"Why don't you ask your previous clients why they arent repeat visitors? That should give you a gauge on why your not busy. "
no offense to the poster, but that's horrible advice and i'm pretty sure it'd make the client uncomfortable.
just my .2
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DD hit the nail on the head, but I felt it worth reinforcing. One of the unwritten (but broadly understood) rules is, unless explicitly agreed to the contrary, the "don't call me, I'll call you" maxim applies to clients. You aren't Taco Bell or Bank of America. It isn't appropriate for you to do customer satisfaction surveys of clients that don't repeat.
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Originally Posted by Cpalmson
Have you advertised on Escorts.com or EROS? What about and TER and BD? Do you have reviews posted there?
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I don't know OKC, but in general the Ad Malls are much less effective once you get outside of the major metros
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Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums
I offer to meet gentlemen in the city, but I can't afford to provide the hotel room. Not many will take me up on it. I have offered to travel to Tulsa, but do have to charge a bit more for my travel. I haven't had anyone take me up on that.
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This may be a risk you have to take, but you need to "get the room" (unless you are advertising for outcall). Unless it is an extended date, it is customary for her to provide the room. The idea of "meet me in the parking lot of the LaQuinta, give me money for the room and I'll be back in a few minutes" is shady to many.
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02-21-2010, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: Feb 7, 2010
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Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums
For me, one a day would be really busy! What I make in donations doesn't support me, but rather pays for my upkeep! ![Wink](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/wink.gif) If I was getting at least 3 a week on a regular basis, I would be thrilled!
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I would say you need to start by lowering your upkeep a bit, because most people in this area bring home less than your 3 date rate per week. In other words, we all like nice things, hell who doesn't. But in tough times you have to cut back.
Also, speaking for myself as one of your clients, the location is the biggest issue for me. While you are only 1 hour away, that is still a 1 hour drive each way, turning a 1 hour date into 3 at best. When I decide to partake in the hobby, it is usually on impulse and I usually have a 2-3 hour window on the best of days. It is just too inconvenient for me to drive that far on most days.
However, I will say that your rate and your skills are amazing and any guy would surely be pleased with seeing you. Maybe one thing you could try is prebooking appointments in the city 3-4 days in advance. Then come to the city and get a hotel. If you can get 2-3 in one day, surely that would make the trip and the hotel fee worth while.
Apart from that, I really don't know why you aren't getting more business. Your rates are the best in the area and you provide exceptional service. I hope you can figure out a way to stay in the hobby, or at least continue seeing those of us who have seen you before.
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02-21-2010, 12:43 PM
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I have actually learned recently that I don't have to buy every sexy top that I see. the first time I walked out of a store with no sacks felt really good....however, three dates a week will keep me making as much as I would at a regular 8-5 job...or at least the 8-5 job I quit before I got into this! But the economy has chaged a lot in the last year.
I do remember you...we had so much fun in that little hour. Did you keep those pix on your cell and show them off? I'm happy to see that you gave me a review this morning, how extra sweet of you to say such nice things! That is one good thing about my problem, I always remember my men...I don't want that part to change.
I am always more then willing to travel some and get to OKC often...the prebooking and getting the hotel room myself is a great idea, and I beleive it just gave me an idea for this weeks ad!
Thankyou baby for the advice, words of encouragement, and the awesomely fantastic things you said about me!
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02-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I use P411 as a gateway, but prefer the independent web sites because they generally have more pictures. I may be alone in this habit, but I doubt it.
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Thank you so much for showing me I had a valuable tool that I was ignoring. I will pay better attention to it...post my review links from it. And even though I know you are too far to ever come and see me, I will get more updated pictures on it just for you! Also, the galleries available on here totaly rocks!
ALL OF YOU that have posted in here have been so nice. Thank you so much for taking me as being sincere, and realize I wasn't just posting this to complain, or to get attention. I am being true and serious and that's how you took me, and you have offered me some really amazing advice. I love you guys! Makes it feel like we are family. ![Throb](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/throb.gif)
A strangely perverted one, but the love is there non the less!
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02-21-2010, 08:40 PM
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I have no suggestions but would like to add that just this very afternoon I was talking with a lady in Dallas who said almost everything that you posted in your original post!
Times are just tough. I have fair to good weeks and I have weeks that aren't great. I just do my best to not spend any more than I HAVE to for the leaner times.
I don't know what I would do if it weren't for my regular massage folks. Sure I don't make as MUCH on them but hey, it all pays the bills.
Good luck to you darlin'! --v
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02-21-2010, 08:42 PM
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Old, but concupiscent....
Join Date: Mar 26, 2009
Location: DFW
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Advice from another provider....
This was posted here by DeAnna Luv in another thread. Very cold, hard advice, not aimed at you personally, but there might be something you can benefit from....Might be a wake up call?
My rates have always been and will always be $150/1hr and $100/half hr and I always did and probably still would have one of the most extensive menus available at that rate or above.
With that rate is afforded me the chance to never find myself short of cash, I was never to proud to run an $80 special just to drop up quick cash of I had to many no shows on a tour.. it happens.. but never once did I come to a review board and ask for help because I couldn't keep my shit together and earn money selling pussy.. not once.
also those rates, didn't force me to take a second job, didn't force me to move constantly, didn't force me to lose my car or any other thing.. those rates allowed me to save, start businesses, and now sit on my ass and do nothing..absolutely freakin nothing..all day, everyday, except avoid hurricanes. not braggin, but this didn't have to be about me..you attack and point out things "i have to do" in order to pay bills..
its not about "what I have to do" it was about what I was WILLING to do..no one in life HAS to do anything..you have to be willing to do some things to get ahead.. some are unfortunately more than WILLING to come on a board and beg people for help and/or come to the very place built to make them money and ask for random hand outs and bitch about how they can't keep their lives in order and suddenly now their personal problems are now the members of this community..some are WILLING to do what i suggest and lower rates, others are willing to apparently take up a second job to support being a whore
pussy is pussy.. every girl has one that is selling it on these boards.. if some girls isn't priced right and she is broke all the damn time, it ain't hard to figure out your pussy your selling I.E your "product" isn't worth what you think it is to the people paying for it..i.e the customer..i.e the client.. its really not a hard concept to grasp or understand..
a girl can sugar coat it, can claim whatever..if the customers to whom you make yourself available to aren't willing to pay the price you set for your product "pussy", then it ain't worth that..plain and simple, if a girl has to say "i have another job" then that is the same as admitting you can't sell yourself effectively enough to support yourself and the lifestyle you seek, thus proving that HER PUSSY isn't not worth the price she has listed.. or "her services" would be more polite.
if you have to have a second job to support being a hooker, it kinda defeats the point of being a hooker
why would I wanna work 40 hrs at mcD's @ $7 an hour to earn maybe $250 for the week after taxes...when i can see 2 GUYS at my LOWERED rate of $150, work 2 whole freakin hours and have $300.. BUT lowering my rate is out of the question because I'm to good to do that..so i will go bust my ass 8 hrs a day for minimum wage and see 1 guy a week at my $250 rate just to prove a point?
thats when pride is overriding intelligence..its completely stupid to say it makes sense to NOT lower your rate cuz you think your worth "x" amount only to prove that point by busting your ass 40hrs a week to mayber earn what you would make in 2 guys if you just lower your rate $50..
i can see 2 guys at $200 and make $400 because thats all that will see me at $200. or I can undercut, offer the same great service as i did at 200 and more guys see me that week because of my lower rate.. say 4 guys see me instead of 2 because now i am more affordable or my VALUE increases in their eyes.. 4 guys at 150 600.. i average that over 4 weeks i make alot more money..
the client can't be wrong..if guys aren't seeing a certain girl at her current rate.. then the person selling the "service" has missed the price point.. and needs to adjust accordingly or find a different job.. or to some..just get a second job, where then you don't have time to take the calls and check the emails to sell your "service" cuz your too busy working at walmart.....
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