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03-24-2014, 04:12 PM
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Sounds like it is a good deal only for a bunch off rich assholes....fuck em!
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03-25-2014, 10:33 PM
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Yea, fuck it we don't need the jobs... jobs are over rated... Oluvyou will provide... he is a great leader...
Y'all are stupid if you think KEYSTONE is a bad deal for our country
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03-25-2014, 10:50 PM
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Why don't y'all worry about the ton's of mercury dumped in our land fills from your compact florescent light bulbs or the 100,000's of birds killed by your wind turbines?
JOB KILLING Obamaliars SUCK!
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03-26-2014, 12:42 AM
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Yea, fuck it we don't need the jobs... jobs are over rated... Oluvyou will provide... he is a great leader...
Y'all are stupid if you think KEYSTONE is a bad deal for our country
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http://priceofoil.org/2012/02/08/key...yer-subsidies/
When the work finishes later this year, this refinery will become the largest in the United States. It will have the capacity to process up to 325,000 barrels per day of heavy sour oil. The United States is not a significant producer of heavy sour oil. Countries that are expected to increase their production of this difficult-to-process crude include Canada (tar sands), Venezuela, Colombia, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait among others. So the subsidy received by this refinery is directly to enable the processing of a particularly dirty form of oil that is not produced in America.
Hmm, what was it pipeline proponents, including the owners of these refineries, were saying about reducing dependence on oil from hostile and unstable countries?
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03-26-2014, 12:18 PM
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refine oil where, in one of the new refineries the oil companies refuse to build or let anyone else build ?
square one again.
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You mean the government won't let anyone build, right?
Because Exxon can't really stop Mobil or Chevron or ...
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03-26-2014, 12:31 PM
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You mean the government won't let anyone build, right?
Because Exxon can't really stop Mobil or Chevron or ...
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no, but half right... Exxon-Mobil , Shell et al won't let the government let anyone build
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03-26-2014, 01:09 PM
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Yea, fuck it we don't need the jobs... jobs are over rated... Oluvyou will provide... he is a great leader...
Y'all are stupid if you think KEYSTONE is a bad deal for our country
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what jobs ?
name them...
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03-26-2014, 01:33 PM
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what jobs ?
name them...
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TULSA, Okla. (AP) — A union official says approval of the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline would create construction jobs for hundreds of workers across the U.S.
A State Department report issued Friday raises no major environmental objections to building the pipeline that would run from western Canada to the Texas Gulf Coast — crossing Oklahoma.
Business manager Danny Hendrix for the Pipeliner’s Local 798 in Tulsa — which represents about 7,000 workers across the U.S. — says more than 650 workers from the union could work on the project.
Hendrix says about 350 union members worked on the southern leg of the pipeline that has opened and is carrying crude oil from Cushing to the Texas Gulf Coast.
http://kxan.com/2014/01/31/okla-unio...dreds-of-jobs/
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03-26-2014, 01:53 PM
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no, but half right... Exxon-Mobil , Shell et al won't let the government let anyone build
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Got a citation?
Those companies and others have applied for licenses/permits to build new refineries. So why would they, in effect, stop themselves from building?
They can't get permits due to onerous environmental restrictions, not because they are blocking themselves or others from building.
Antitrust actions like that to restrict supply would lead to treble damages. Not worth the risk.
Also, are you saying that Clinton and Obama - not to mention both Bushes - do the oil companies bidding?
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03-26-2014, 01:59 PM
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Got a citation?
Those companies and others have applied for licenses/permits to build new refineries. So why would they, in effect, stop themselves from building?
They can't get permits due to onerous environmental restrictions, not because they are blocking themselves or others from building.
Antitrust actions like that to restrict supply would lead to treble damages. Not worth the risk.
Also, are you saying that Clinton and Obama - not to mention both Bushes - do the oil companies bidding?
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nope, no citation, just the fact Exxon, Shell donate considerable sums of $$ to politicians who in return protect big oil and the interests of big oil in this country ... no citation required, common knowledge
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03-26-2014, 02:09 PM
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says more than 650 workers from the union could work on the project.
its a Canadian company, Canada brings their own employees... why would a Canadian company want to pay unemployment benefits to American workers when a short term job is finished ? better yet, why would YOU want to pay unemployment benefits to hundreds of American workers after the pipeline has been built ??? so you can bitch about paying unemployment benefits to workers too lazy to get off their ass and find another job???
fuckkn crazy ass hypocrite rightwingers
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03-26-2014, 02:20 PM
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says more than 650 workers from the union could work on the project.
its a Canadian company, Canada brings their own employees... why would a Canadian company want to pay unemployment benefits to American workers when a short term job is finished ? better yet, why would YOU want to pay unemployment benefits to hundreds of American workers after the pipeline has been built ??? so you can bitch about paying unemployment benefits to workers too lazy to get off their ass and find another job???
fuckkn crazy ass hypocrite rightwingers
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You're such a lib-retarded moron, CBJ7. What say you take 650 unemployed workers OFF of unemployment and put them to work earning substantially more than unemployment pays, or are you too ignorant to do that math, CBJ7? BTW, those 650 jobs are in addition to the 350 that were already put to work, and the maintenance crews that will be hired to maintain the pipe and the pump stations ... and there would be many jobs in addition to pipefitters and welders, CBJ7.
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03-26-2014, 03:20 PM
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so lets shove light sweet crude oil to the back of the line because this country uses light sweet crude exclusively, and replace it with heavy sour crude from Canada because Canada can't sell that oil here benefiting other countries and Canada oil sales/profits .... got it.
stupid fuckn rightwingers doing what they do best ... screwing this country
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03-26-2014, 03:26 PM
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so lets shove light sweet crude oil to the back of the line because this country uses light sweet crude exclusively, and replace it with heavy sour crude from Canada because Canada can't sell that oil here benefiting other countries and Canada oil sales/profits .... got it.
stupid fuckn rightwingers doing what they do best ... screwing this country
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Fuckin' Kool Aid sotted Odumbo lib-retards like you are screwing this country when you believe 650+ jobs are not worth the effort and you want to perpetually extend unemployment benefits until the system is irredeemably insolvent causing it to collapse under the strain, CBJ7.
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03-26-2014, 03:35 PM
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Fuckin' Kool Aid sotted Odumbo lib-retards like you are screwing this country when you believe 650+ jobs are not worth the effort and you want to perpetually extend unemployment benefits until the system is irredeemably insolvent causing it to collapse under the strain, CBJ7.
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you're assuming those lazy people riding unemployment will jump up and go get a job WORKING and busting their ass for a temporary job when they could say home and collect checks for watching TV...
now you have a choice to make, either people that collect unemployment are lazy worthless bastards, or they're not
which is it?
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