Stupid American People?

[Randy4Candy]

COF, I can have an award for you in about 15 seconds. It can come on very nice stock or on a roll of toilet paper done either in caligraphy, Ye Olde English, or with krayolie.

Critical thinking, eh? I wonder how many home schooling parents employ the Socratic method? I'll wager that it will be a lot fewer than the ones employing the Pauline method. I suspect that they get a lot more of the latter from the Rev. and the assistants down at the non-denominational, birther, Mega-Church of the New Confederacy. So much for the milk of human kindness. Hmmm, I think there may be a lot of "teaching the test" going on, too. Since most State Boards of Education at some point verify progress among the home schooled, the need to accumulate and regurgitate information for a standardized "achievement" test is paramount. Perhaps the reason Sexycentric1's cousin's kiddos blew up on the ACT/SAT is that one had to figure out what A, B, C, or D is from information contained in the question. There is, after all, a reasoning component to "critical thinking."

Of course, if they want to pool their resources and hire a ball-busting Jesuit and a couple of nuns with moustaches sporting man-hater footwear, we might have something to discuss. Oh, yeah - they would also have to be from Rhode Island, Pennsylvania or some other foreign country east of Texarkana.

[KCJoe]

My only experience with home-schooled kids was my in-laws who were very religious and didn't want their kids exposed to the evils of public school. The oldest joined the military at 17 to get away from home, the second oldest had a speech impediment and no one could understand him that wasn't part of the immediate family. The two younger girls both got pregnant before they turned 16 and married abusive husbands. Not sure if any have a degree. Of course I think the parents were idiots who couldn’t teach a dog to rollover. And I’m sure they a an equally low opinion of me since I’m the only one connected to that family that graduated from college.

[KCJoe]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

nuns with moustaches sporting man-hater footwear

Parochial school, two years. Those fucking nuns were sadistic, cruel bitches. I can still remember a nun who caught me dumping beets into the trash at lunchtime, making me fish them out and eat them before I could go to recess.

[Randy4Candy]

Originally Posted by KCJoe

Parochial school, two years. Those fucking nuns were sadistic, cruel bitches. I can still remember a nun who caught me dumping beets into the trash at lunchtime, making me fish them out and eat them before I could go to recess.

Heh, heh, heh - now THAT's what 1000 years of perfecting pious, religious education is all about. In Sister's life-lesson for you, were Chinese, Africans or South Americans living for a week off of what you just threw away?

[CuteOldGuy]

Ok, the government education system is just fine. My mistake. The federal government does a tremendous job of educating children. How could I have missed that.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Ok, the government education system is just fine. My mistake. The federal government does a tremendous job of educating children. How could I have missed that.

The Federal Government does not run schools.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Since most State Boards of Education at some point verify progress among the home schooled, the need to accumulate and regurgitate information for a standardized "achievement" test is paramount. Perhaps the reason Sexycentric1's cousin's kiddos blew up on the ACT/SAT is that one had to figure out what A, B, C, or D is from information contained in the question. There is, after all, a reasoning component to "critical thinking."

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[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WTF

The Federal Government does not run schools.

You are right: it dictates how the states will run their schools.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by WTF

The Federal Government does not run schools.

The "fuc" they don't. They supply the money, they make the rules. You never heard of No Child Left Behind? That's a federal program, as are many others. Your stupidity and arrogance exceed all rational boundaries. It's time to go back in for a check up.



What a moron. Remember the little girl whose mommy didn't put enough vegetables in her lunch? She was in violation of a Federal law. The feds are all over education. You are ridiculous. Please, let the grown ups talk. You're interrupting again.

[Randy4Candy]

I'm sure, coF, that when the neocon revolution comes it will all be better. You know, like Mississippi in 1835.

[CuteOldGuy]

Yeah. Like the neocons are farther advanced than the Neanderthals. God help us if they gain control.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The "fuc" they don't. They supply the money, they make the rules. You never heard of No Child Left Behind? That's a federal program, as are many others. Your stupidity and arrogance exceed all rational boundaries. It's time to go back in for a check up.



What a moron. Remember the little girl whose mommy didn't put enough vegetables in her lunch? She was in violation of a Federal law. The feds are all over education. You are ridiculous. Please, let the grown ups talk. You're interrupting again.

Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation. The structure of education finance in America reflects this predominant State and local role. Of an estimated $1.15 trillion being spent nationwide on education at all levels for school year 2011-2012, a substantial majority will come from State, local, and private sources. This is especially true at the elementary and secondary level, where about 87.7 percent of the funds will come from non-Federal sources.
That means the Federal contribution to elementary and secondary education is about 10.8 percent, which includes funds not only from the Department of Education (ED) but also from other Federal agencies, such as the Department of Health and Human Services' Head Start program and the Department of Agriculture's School Lunch program.
Although ED's share of total education funding in the U.S. is relatively small, ED works hard to get a big bang for its taxpayer-provided bucks by targeting its funds where they can do the most good. This targeting reflects the historical development of the Federal role in education as a kind of "emergency response system," a means of filling gaps in State and local support for education when critical national needs arise.

History

The original Department of Education was created in 1867 to collect information on schools and teaching that would help the States establish effective school systems. While the agency's name and location within the Executive Branch have changed over the past 130 years, this early emphasis on getting information on what works in education to teachers and education policymakers continues down to the present day.

[CuteOldGuy]

Yeah. The Departement of Education is doing a great job. Keep it up, guys!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yeah. The Departement of Education is doing a great job. Keep it up, guys!

The Department of Education does not run local schools. In fact it provides less than 11% of the funding.

They do set standards that those schools must submit to if they want Federal Dollars.

The main reason why we are saying schools are failing is because we have lost our manufacturing base. So there are less jobs. This country is becoming either a highly skilled or service sector based.

That could change is we could keep NG prices low and not ship our abundence of this natural resource onto the world market but I doubt that will happen.

That is called a segway or thread drift, COG. Hope I didn't lose you.

[CuteOldGuy]

You lost me when you misspelled "segue" but that's not unusual, unless you were referring to the single person transportation device. And while we're at it, please locate the article in the Constitution which permits the federal government to be involved in local education. I seemed to have missed it.