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Cory Booker and Liz Warren have it now. Mild symptoms, both had the booster.
I would hate to be with zero shots, and get Omicrom or Delta. CDC says the death rate is 20X higher for the unvaxxed. Of course, the Trumpian Community thinks that's a big lie, that sprang up after the big steal..
What is the "Trumpian community" some made up shit of yours like normal...
... You certainly miss A LOT for someone who talks
like a knowing-expert. The "Trumpian Community" are
NOT the ones who don't want the vax. President Trump
himself encouraged people to get the vax because
He felt it would offour protection against co-vid.
You must have missed that.
... Maybe you're also unaware that the African-American
community has a HIGH NUMBER of unvaxed. Do you believe
there's a HIGH NUMBER of "Trumpians" amoung them?
... Then there's the fact that yer ruler Sleepy Joe Biden
pissed all-over the vaccines from the start.
Or perhaps MORE people would have be vaxxed by now.
... Next time TRY to be accurate, will you?
#### Salty
You haven't been around long enough...he posts this nonsense ALL the time. Don't shit on his narrative!!
Anyway, in addition to protecting your own health, protecting people like Bob is another good reason to get vaccinated, get a booster, and wear a KN95 or N95 mask and social distance when appropriate.
Come on now, dude. You do know which forum this is. These guys would have had the shots already if they wanted to get it.
Unfortunately, they'll be the 1st ones running to the hospitals and taking away available beds from those who actually had enough sense to take the simple necessary precautions to at least try not to be there.
I say let those anti vaxx stupid motherfuckers die on the streets when they get it and leave the hospital beds available for those of us who were smart enough to try our best with minimal effort to avoid getting sick.
Come on now, dude. You do know which forum this is. These guys would have had the shots already if they wanted to get it.
Unfortunately, they'll be the 1st ones running to the hospitals and taking away available beds from those who actually had enough sense to take the simple necessary precautions to at least try not to be there.
I say let those anti vaxx stupid motherfuckers die on the streets when they get it and leave the hospital beds available for those of us who were smart enough to try our best with minimal effort to avoid getting sick.
Trump got his booster, of course. All the “freedom” shit being espoused by Trumpys is due to their ignorance that their deaths are just for the sake of Republican politics. Trump and the republicans want nothing to go well under Biden in hopes that they can regain power. If getting idiots to fail to vaccinate (which by the way would be a boon to the economy for everyone) hurts Biden, then they want to keep that going.
Too soon to know... Even if Omicrom is weaker, it still spreads fast and easy.. It may surpass Delta in lives taken, by sheer volume alone.
Not one single expert I've heard speak on Omicron, think that it will be worse than Delta as far as hospitalizations and deaths go. As a matter of fact, the majority if not all, have now concluded by looking at the world wide numbers, that they are calling it a "cold" and yes, colds and the flu kill hundreds if not thousands every year.
So, if a fully vaccinated person such as myself, can still catch covid and can still pass along covid to the vaccinated and un-vaccinated, the only benefit to being vaccinated is that I probably won't need to be hospitalized or die. If all that is true and I believe it is, why the fuck should I care if somebody is un-vaccinated? They can no more harm me ( according to the experts ) than a vaccinated person can.
I said this a long, long time ago but history will someday record how ridiculously stupid we handled this whole mess and continue to handle it. If an un-vaccinated person can't hurt me any more than a vaccinated person can, WTF is the purpose of all theses restrictions? To save people who simply do not want to participate in being vaccinated? Their choice.
Your understanding is wrong. I get your argument but it’s not exactly correct. We pointed this out in another thread.
Yes, personally you are protected with the vaccination. And from a purely personal standpoint that’s fine and dandy. However, you as a vaccinated person neither catchy nor spread the disease at the same rate that an unvaccinated person does. You’re about 80% less likely to catch it and if you do you’re about 90% less likely to get really sick. Meaning that the unvaccinated catch, spread and become I’ll (given all other factors being the same) at a far higher rate.
Why this matters is that variants spring from the spread of the disease. The vaccinated can create variants and spread the disease but they do so, by nature of their lower rate of catch and spread, at a vastly lower and slower pace. On the other hand, unvaccinated do so at a vastly high pace.
It also matters in that. Though you personally may be protected, that doesn’t mean you can’t contribute to the harm of possibly death of other people that either can’t become vaccinated, spreading it to children, giving a variant to another person who is less protected.
I haven’t read enough on the effects of Omicron to know how bad it can be. We likely don’t know because the people that are being seen with it have been those that are vaccinated and hence are afforded a higher level of protection. When the unprotected population starts getting it en masse, we will have a better idea of whether it is more or less dangerous. Also, if it’s spreading amongst the vaccinated at a higher rate than delta. I imagine we will find it’ll burn through the unvaccinated populace like wildfire. Maybe it’ll turn out to be our cure, a version that produces antibodies without having a 2% kill rate.
Personally I don’t care if people chose to remain vaccinated, but since that person is a possible vector, I believe they should live with the consequences of their choice. Hospitals should manage care them to the bottom and employers that don’t want an outbreak should let them go. But that’s my personal view.
Your understanding is wrong. I get your argument but it’s not exactly correct. We pointed this out in another thread.
Yes, personally you are protected with the vaccination. And from a purely personal standpoint that’s fine and dandy. However, you as a vaccinated person neither catchy nor spread the disease at the same rate that an unvaccinated person does. You’re about 80% less likely to catch it and if you do you’re about 90% less likely to get really sick. Meaning that the unvaccinated catch, spread and become I’ll (given all other factors being the same) at a far higher rate.
Why this matters is that variants spring from the spread of the disease. The vaccinated can create variants and spread the disease but they do so, by nature of their lower rate of catch and spread, at a vastly lower and slower pace. On the other hand, unvaccinated do so at a vastly high pace.
It also matters in that. Though you personally may be protected, that doesn’t mean you can’t contribute to the harm of possibly death of other people that either can’t become vaccinated, spreading it to children, giving a variant to another person who is less protected.
I haven’t read enough on the effects of Omicron to know how bad it can be. We likely don’t know because the people that are being seen with it have been those that are vaccinated and hence are afforded a higher level of protection. When the unprotected population starts getting it en masse, we will have a better idea of whether it is more or less dangerous. Also, if it’s spreading amongst the vaccinated at a higher rate than delta. I imagine we will find it’ll burn through the unvaccinated populace like wildfire. Maybe it’ll turn out to be our cure, a version that produces antibodies without having a 2% kill rate.
Personally I don’t care if people chose to remain vaccinated, but since that person is a possible vector, I believe they should live with the consequences of their choice. Hospitals should manage care them to the bottom and employers that don’t want an outbreak should let them go. But that’s my personal view.
You are correct, that is your "personal view" based on the evidence you choose to believe. My personal view is based on the evidence I have seen and believe to be true. Putting "we likely don't know" in your opinion doesn't really give it much strength but you are entitled to it.
Omicron is going to rip through Trump land like a runaway train.
And I haven't seen anyone call it the equivalent of a cold, but then I haven't seen Tucker or Hannity this week. You can bet your ass both those dipshits are vaxxed and boosted though. They are just grabbing onto shit trying to do damage control because of their real thoughts about Trump being leaked...
You are correct, that is your "personal view" based on the evidence you choose to believe. My personal view is based on the evidence I have seen and believe to be true. Putting "we likely don't know" in your opinion doesn't really give it much strength but you are entitled to it.
Yeah. From the guy that thinks Tucker Carlson is a journalist. What you choose to believe as true is questionable.
