Sugarbaby Sugardaddy: your thoughts?

[Camille]

SR, you are very lucky. You are able to help out women that need that help who you also enjoy. I have a (genuine) question though...what makes this an SB relationship as opposed to an escort? If you meet only for sex, what makes the difference between being an SB and being an escort? Is it that she is not advertizing? Or in other situations that men have mentioned is it that she sees only one man? Is it that there is no set rate? I can see the difference when you are traveling and doing other things together, but if it's just intimacy I'm confused..

Thanks

Camille x

Originally Posted by SR Only

I was being vague on purpose not wanting to bias the comments.

My current SB is cash poor. Hubby died a few years ago and lives with one of her daughters. Wants to get out. First meeting went to a notel. Three hours of heaven for both of us. I gave and she expected $$$ (was discussed before we met). Next time we met I had a conference at a casino. She joined me for the overnight. I picked up all the tabs and gave her $$$ that she said she was going to use for Christmas gifts for her grand kids and kids. Met again just before Christmas. Just $$ this time, but we cut it short because she had A) shaved a little too close and B) put some lotion on it that "burned" a bit. We met this past Thursday. She shaved less, I shaved more. She brought the toys (see the other thread). Fun time had by all. Gift was $$$ which as I drove her home we stopped at a city/state office to pay a tax bill with the money.

She does have another SD who wants her to move up his way. She's not 100% on that, He has dropped some nice money for jewelry and so she can buy a car. Plus taken her on a nice trip. I cannot compete with his money but I don't think he can compete with my skills.

We do talk about this stuff.

Another SB I met in October, we hooked up a few times, but she kept tapping for cash. And then in November went cold. We text but haven't seen each other since then.

What is heartbreaking is some of these ladies are struggling to make ends meet i.e. rent utilities etc (I have not mentioned a few others that have been more brief, etc.). While our Diamonds seem to be for the most part financially secure, there are lovely ladies who are unable to keep a roof over their heads breaks my/your heart (one moved out of area and ended up in a homeless shelter for a spell).

Can I fund the world? No. Am I being scammed I don't think so. My biz plan still includes buying lottery tickets.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by SR Only

gave her $$$ that she said she was going to use for Christmas gifts for her grand kids and kids.

I'm not being judgemental, but I have to say this is the first time I've ever heard of Grandma being referred to as a Sugar Baby

Overheard at X-Mas:
Lil Johnny: "Wow Grandma, a Wii!!!"
SRO's SB: "Well Johnny, I hope you enjoy it, you'll never believe what (who) Grandma had to do to get that Wii."

Seriously, if everyone's happy I think it is great. I do agree with Camille. I don't see the difference between her and other providers. I would simply say she is "UTR" or "very low volume"

[Guest012211-3]

I have been involved with two of these "arrangements" in the past. All I can say, is it felt like I was in a relationship with someone I didn't love...all of my basic bills were paid, but not alot of extra spending money was offered. I was in school at the time, so I didn't need much.

The first was married, so our time was limited to the weekends which included quick getaways at a moments notice. Sounds glamorous, but being pulled around strange cities, and following someone else's agenda just plain sucked.

The second, was single and offered a rental house for me to live and basically look after once it was up for sale. I had some privacy, however those 7am 'booty calls' slowly became a major infringement on my down/personal time. I couldn't socialize much or work...just sit and watch the clock...waiting.

In the end, it wasn't for me. I enjoy my freedom way too much to be bound to just one person in exchange for cash. I walked away and happily went back to work where I took back my freedom and funny enough, my dignity.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by Camille

SR, you are very lucky. You are able to help out women that need that help who you also enjoy. I have a (genuine) question though...what makes this an SB relationship as opposed to an escort? If you meet only for sex, what makes the difference between being an SB and being an escort? Is it that she is not advertising? Or in other situations that men have mentioned is it that she sees only one man? Is it that there is no set rate? I can see the difference when you are traveling and doing other things together, but if it's just intimacy I'm confused..

Thanks

Camille x

Dear Camille,

My whole PoV on the thread is how is it different (SB v Escort)? I am not sure.

The SB from October we definitely discussed it as a biz relationship. But it morphed into where I have a text of where she loved being held in my arms, her head on my chest shoulder. My current SB has expressed the same on our meeting just before Christmas. Since her parts were tender we just laid there listening to each other breath and relaxed.

Does the fact that the SB does actively pursue clients make her different? I think in her mind perhaps it does. At the end of the day it is a fee for services, but at what price? As I phrased it to another woman I saw: "If you saw me in a supermarket, would you think 'I want to bang you?'."

Is that the litmus test? I bet I wouldn't be as attractive in that scenario. I envy our Diamonds who under an "arrangement" think their lover is the most attractive guy in the world, up until the date ends. Us Tuxedos accept that as our relationship. My SB loved our time at the casino, as did I. She also appreciated my contribution to the Christmas Savings Plan. We accept it for what it is.

I am (obviously) not chastising any parts of any of these relationships. There are some courtesans I really enjoy seeing. I truly love being with my current babe. Her crying out "F me 'SR Only,' oh baby!!!" (SR is used to protect the innocent). It just makes me feel so good.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by Nicole Preston

I have been involved with two of these "arrangements" in the past. All I can say, is it felt like I was in a relationship with someone I didn't love...all of my basic bills were paid, but not alot of extra spending money was offered.

Dear Nicole, I think that's what my SB is feeling about the other SD who wants her to move close to him (and BTW, away from her daughters and that's a bad rub for her). She said she doesn't think she can be herself when around him. Around me she relaxes. Says whatever she feels or comes to mind. It is a mini-vacation to step away from her grand kids and have some adult time with me. But lack of love seems to be an issue with her and her other SD.

But as I type this, do you love your paying clients? Prolly not. But you aren't hanging out waiting for the early morning booty call. You have the control and not the SD. In the biz arrangement both parties work on timing etc. (offer, acceptance, consideration, and delivery: Your basic business agreement).

FWIW Nicole you look like my SB. Which of course means very sexy.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Camille

...what makes this an SB relationship as opposed to an escort?

The $$$'s he is paying. She obviously is not familiar with "market prices".

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by SR Only

You have the control and not the SD.

I think this is the essence of the answer to Camile's question.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by SR Only

Dear Camille,

My whole PoV on the thread is how is it different (SB v Escort)? I am not sure.

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I think one distinction is is a SB arrangement there is an "arrangement" (financially), but it does not involve you giving her $300 everytime you see her. The best analogy I can come up with is having a lawyer (or other professional) "on retainer" vs. being billed by the hour (or in 15 minute increments). In Alice's case, for example, the "retainer" was use of the house.

The arrangement may or may not be more lucrative than if you simply paid a la carte.

Just my 2 cents. The line is a fine one (if it even exists) & as you point out at the end of the day it is all fee for service or p4p

[Guest012211-3]

Originally Posted by SR Only

But as I type this, do you love your paying clients? Prolly not. But you aren't hanging out waiting for the early morning booty call. You have the control and not the SD. In the biz arrangement both parties work on timing etc. (offer, acceptance, consideration, and delivery: Your basic business agreement).

Exactly my point. I don't "Love" my paying clients, but I do enjoy their company when I'm "on the clock". Don't get me wrong, I socialize occasionally "off the clock" with dinner and drinks, but again I'm calling the shots on that one. Maybe I just had some bad SD's, LOL...who knows?

Like I said, it just wasn't for me...sometimes I want to go to bed at 8pm and watch crap tv without being bothered, or enjoy my morning coffee without being poked, lol.

I still get offers today, but I just can't...

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Nicole Preston

or enjoy my morning coffee without being poked, lol.

What? There is a problem with getting poked before coffee?

[ferdburf]

Nicole, I think it's all about chemistry. That's what I gain, anyway, from reading your post.

Six months ago I had a lil 23-year-old hottie SB that I was crazy about, and she professed the same. However, on a moment's notice, she told me she'd fallen in love over the weekend and was ending our SB/SD get-togethers (now she's even moving out of state to be with him).

So while the "chemistry" might be there at the moment, someone's agenda, based on their individual life circumstances, may bring an abrupt halt to the relationship.

I wished (and still wish) her well, btw.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

What? There is a problem with getting poked before coffee?

By George I think the guys are catching on.

[Guest012211-3]

LOL, DO NOT get between me and my coffee

I guess I'm just old and stuck in my ways...having a SD ( couldn't imagine more than one at time) is like having a boyfriend that gets on my nerves, but he pays the bills, soooo....

I like to leave my options open. I do have travel/dinner buddies, but it is a situational/time sensitive agreement, not long term. So I do enjoy life sometimes

If it works for some, then go for it!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

I think this is the essence of the answer to Camile's question.

Control or an illusion of control...is there really a difference!

SB vs Escort
Fo me. Not making a career out of dis biz is SB material. It takes a certain mindset to be successful in this business. SB do not possess that preponderance. Hell maybe they do, maybe they are just escorts in training!

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

I'm not being judgemental, but I have to say this is the first time I've ever heard of Grandma being referred to as a Sugar Baby

No chit....SR been down at the retirement community trolling for SugarBabies! SR if your not getting paid for that arrangement then you not doing something right

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

What? There is a problem with getting poked before coffee?

I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Note to self: Make sure hotel room has a coffeemaker.