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Originally Posted by April Cox
And consider that it is not 100% the providers responsibility......If you are a bump on a log, and not contributing, (mouth breathing loudly with your eyes closed is not participation). I understand in those moments to want to focus on the "O". And that is okay.The foreplay sometimes is the best part of the experience, and it is so much more fun when both people are creatively contributing.
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I agree with you about this. But only in regards to multihour bookings 2 hours or more. I just don't think a half hour or 1 hour booking is enough time to fucus (I'm not fixing this lol) on mutual pleasure principally. I can tell by the way a lady kisses and does oral whether I will return the favor or book more time past an hour. Some ladies use that stuff as timewasting tactics. I know definitively by the way a lady kisses and gives BBBJ if I'm going to extend to an overnight booking. Only so many horizontal licks on my chest I will take before I'm angling your head to other areas of interests. And if your gonna claim to be an oral afiecienado......saying your neck or jaw hurts after ten minutes of oral ain't cutting it. And definitely won't intice me to hook you up with some superb daty where you have to peal me away from your body or Ill drain you. If your using your neck that much your doing it all wrong lol.
Here's where I don't agree. I just wish you could post the type of sessions you prefer to want and contrast by the ones you tolerate(I mean this is business right).....versus what you think guys are wanting to here. Come real or not at all right.
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Originally Posted by April Cox
A visit is so much more fun and interesting if you also actively participate in the festivities.
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Originally Posted by April Cox
The foreplay sometimes is the best part of the experience, and it is so much more fun when both people are creatively contributing. Again, the word "service" you guys are using lately is just lame, really. Its a turn off.
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Originally Posted by April Cox
Also, boring sessions are also not much of an issue either, I love and adore my guys. They are the BEST!
This "fast food drive thru" or 5 minute oil change mentality is a bummer, it does suck the fun out of it.
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I think your too wishy washy in your responses. First you detest a type of client......then think long and hard about what you are posting......then change course talking about you love and adore guys who are selfish sexually. Say what you really feel....not this eccie "I love all my guys crap." If foreplay makes for a better session from you just say that. You want him to lick your pussy, suck your big toe, and kiss your starfish gently, etc.....tell him that way prior to his booking. Your first two quotes displayed that. Stick to your course of opinion. Or on the otherhand face reality that every client will have different wants, needs, and desires. However, we don't want to be judged if your desires are secondary or nonexistent to what we want. If a guy has it in his skills to not be a selfish lover you wouldn't need this thread or a rant about it.
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Originally Posted by April Cox
Gent Participation. Guys, I do understand that you are showing up with the expectation to be entertained.
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Ya damn skippy. I think also participation may be directly proportional to how much time a guy is booking as well as his particular preferences. If I'm booking a session of an hour or less that should be my choice whether I want to be actively involved in doing things she prefers to her pleasure or if I just want to do me. That time is hella short. That's why I don't believe in doing anything less than a first time booked overnight. No tune up sessions needed. I got time to relax, get to know her body well and quirks and help her get hers, get mine, then I get out.
If a guy doesn't want or like to do something, or if a guy views this thread and sees that you wrote passionately about your apparent preference for mutual means of pleasure and the experiences it might be more fruitful for him to be hesitant and pass on booking you to avoid a misconception about his preference for pleasure........he may be pondering if I book to see her and I don't do this, that, and the third towards her, she will be less enthused to perform and less in the mood and motivated ultimately. And truthfully although its messed up......that would be true. But it shouldn't be. Yes your control who you see but its generally a service industry. If money was not involved your pleasure would not be an overt concern principally. Unless of course you were jusgt giving it away free of charge.
Oh wait......here's an idea that might work swimmingly.......
Wanna prove me wrong. Give away 30 minutes free of foreplay play time that won't count against his booked time provided he doesn't get sex, oral copulation, or a HJ or orgasm. It will help you promote your term of human decency. Make the world a better place lol. When he crosses over and penetrates an orifice (I.e. mouth, pussy, or ass hole) start the clock for his booked hour. Then you can perform at your best in session knowing foreplay has been explored and conquered to your liking.
Oh wait.......your response will be "why should I do that.....nothings free". Exactly. If he wants extra time he will be respectful and book more time. If you all but expect him to be focused on your pleasure as well as his to facilitate your service being at your best....give him the option to pass or free time to accommodate your "service" kryptonite. Don't get wishy washy with your bookings. Tell potential clients what you require from them sexually and see how that goes for you. Or not lol......
But just like when some ladies claim they have had "multiple daty orgasms" in a row from the upteenth client claiming your foreplay is getting her so wet ("do it a lil longer baby I'm getting close") yet right before she goes for the sex she reaching for the nearest KY jelly to "really" get moist. But that's one of the reasons sexual lubricant is for......for those guys who would not necessarily feel the need this particular time to crank the ignition and let a nice car idle and warm up first......before driving out of your driveway to hit the road. If she needs lube she just not enthused. Ketchup on a damn steak.
Some guys are assertive in asking what they want and more blunt than others, some guys would rather "get laid" by the lady taking the lead putting all his wants and needs second fiddle to your normal routine. I say "normal routine" because if you are used to seeing clients that give you active and creative control over there pleasure......being thrown a curveball of being given helpful suggestions by a client who isn't exactly "routine" may present a challenge, and demotivate you into a session you don't like and your service acumen will show if that repeats too often. Because you may be not accustomed to relinquishing control as much. But just because a guy inserts helpful suggestions to you about how he prefers to be on the serving end of the spectrum.....that doesn't make him an asshole or selfish. Some guys would rather you get on your knees on the floor while he stands up towering over you as you give him oral. Other guys would rather lay flat on the bed and have you service them orally while you lay across the bed to relax your knees to service him better. Different methods, maybe different feelings and results and feelings for your body to you....but yes guys are paying for your time and compainionship, but you gotta cater your session individually to how guys react to you. I usually start by kissing a lady and having her take the lead via BBBJ. If her technique after 3 to 5 minutes doesn't cater to my preferences Ill offer suggestions to make it better for me. I'm not gonna be tight lipped and assume you might get it right the way I like. I'm honest enough to ask and imply cause I'm paying for the priviledge. Not your slavery. But the priviledge to request what I like without the judgement if I don't return the favor.
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Originally Posted by Nicolet
This drive-thru, fast food, mentality has taken all the fun out of it.
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Yes I agree. But also the bulk of reviews being written right now for the last few years have been a lot of Half hours and quickies. Which means probably that their is a certain vocal majority of clients who would rather not have to do all the GFE mutual stuff and get right down to fucking unfortunately. Ze in something you don't care to provide and sometimes vice versa. Same result right.....good times. Guys may book established independents who only do hour or more bookings.......but they are trying to be as nice as they can to well......have sex with you.
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Originally Posted by LA Man
Love ya girls, can only imagine someone not wanting to participate with such fun women. To each his own they say, maybe this is a big reason for YMMV!!!
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Yep I agree. I'm sure logically if a lady got a call or email from two prior clients at one time........and it was in regards to one booking she had left for a day. I'm sure they would prefer the client who would also focus on her pleasure and his.........rather than a regular who played more authorative and told her all his request while he did nothing. She might be inclined to book the first guy over the second.
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Originally Posted by LA Man
Ask before your appointment to use the shower and request help (don't refer to the need of smegma removal!!).
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See I'm an outcaller. Part of the reason I prefer outcalls is I'm there early enough to be prepared freshly showered. Even if I have to pee I shower again. I take a shower when I check in and one hour before she arrives.
if a person really stanks....and is nasty.....male or female it will show after the shower and before it once the sex starts. A shower will only mask a stinky vag or dick for a few minutes until it gets poked, proded, and tongue punched. I'm not always a fan of a lady arriving to my outcall and needing to shower and get ready. Makes me feel as though she just came from anappointment and she's not ready for me and has to wash the last client off first. I'm sure this is weather dependent and a preference of ladies to shower first even if they just got ready.......but for me....I like a womans natural smell and pheremones that's just marinating in her clothes as she arrives. I've actually requested ladies to not reshower when they arrive. Some are self conscious....but if they are healthy it shouldn't be a problem. The smell and taste of soap is not a turn on. Clean is yes.....but I love sex. If her vajj has a tinge of tart who the hell cares. I'm a damn man. I want spontaneous organic pussy. Not pussy sprayed with artificial stimulants.
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Originally Posted by LA Man
Shower play is very fun
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Yes it can be. But I take a long time to dry off. Its hot and ill be sweating bricks. And I like woman with big asses and hips........there's not enough room for me to get to some of that water in those hotel showers. I'm shiveriling like a raisin while she's chilling trying to look sexy in a cafeteria hairnet trying to not get her hair wet.....I pass. Ill bath her.....but Ill do all my washing on my own. Call me defiant if you want.......lol
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Originally Posted by Marshpirate
Foreplay is very important to relaxing, and "taking it slow" is a key enjoying the whole experience. I admit to having a problem with the relaxation part, I think mostly because of feeling like I'm racing a clock. Just to make it clear, NONE of the providers I have seen have EVER watched the clock, in fact, ALL have gone gracefully overtime without a complaint.
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I'm glad you posted this it was needed.
See this is what I mean. Guys want more ladies want more.....no one is real. I rather be honest about what I seek and book more time than to go over the booked time mentally threathning her to be a clock watcher and abusing her time. I pay attention to the clock because I'm respectful. I know my role and I don't try to take advantage for her being nice.
So which client is better....the one who's more BFE and goes over his time or the guy less bfe who doesn't. I uess both in some way screwed the provider right? Good or bad.
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Originally Posted by Bigpapa1
Take it slow, relax, chat, build a rapport and pleasure one another.....
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No time for msog after all that. If I was booking an hour Id take it slow on the first few intercourse strokes lol, relax when shes twirking on top or giving me head, chat with her during the sex about how good she is and how I really appreciate her at that particular moment, and pleasure one another (10 to 15 minutes for her in what she likes tops). We can squeeze pillowtalk in there after I cum as much as she needs. I'm much more talkative and giving after I get my nutt. And more willing to exhaust any and all means of satisfaction for her........oh but look at the time.......shucks....next time baby.
For me after she has proven she has skills in the bedroom....she will have gained far more rapport....and in the future meets I might be more partial to doing things specifically that she would enjoy that I do. But I'm glad I don't do hours. I have way more time to figure out what a lady likes and reap the benefits of it.
There are benefits to being a nice time to a provider. It happens.
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