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Old 07-10-2012, 12:18 AM   #16
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All the "good" and "well run" countries in Europe have healthcare for all.
They can't compete with what I experienced in CA, but they have all one thing in common:
their healthcare is a lot better than what I experienced in texas.

Think of countries like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Austria, Zwitserland, Liechtenstein and Germany.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:25 AM   #17
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True story.

In the neighborhood where my parents used to live, there was an old family doctor. He'd already retired once, got bored with retirement, and started his practice up again. He was my father's doctor for a while, and I saw him once.

He retired for good after Medicare and Medicaid told him he'd have to buy a complete new computer and software to bill for Medicare/Medicaid, and hire another full-time office worker JUST to run the computer. There was no possible way he could afford to do that on what his patients could pay him and what Medicare/Medicaid would pay him.

That was almost 20 years ago.

Guys, if you want a big fast dose of ice-cold water reality therapy, call around your town and find out how many primary care doctors and specialists will or will not take Medicare patients. I'm not kidding. (The primary care practice I use put a sign up a few years ago, that they won't take Medicare/Medicaid as primary insurance. A small neighborhood practice in Austin TX, when I needed something checked quickly while on a weekend trip home, had a similar policy. I learned about the latter when I marked "MC", for MasterCard, in the "How will you pay" slot on the form, and they asked me about it.)

Do your homework.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:43 AM   #18
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Do my homework??????//

Are you saying that twenty years ago Medicare told some old ass doctor to buy a computer and told him he had to hire someone to run it?

Homework in Teach....That sounds like a crock of caca! Sell it to Tea Nuts that are big buyers of shit
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:24 AM   #19
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.....83% of everything COsFb posts is horse sh*t. On a side note, the other 17% is useless.

Now, get busy on spreading these "facts" all over the internet. Hmmmm, well actually, those are facts. Do tell.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:42 AM   #20
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Are you saying that twenty years ago Medicare told some old ass doctor to buy a computer and told him he had to hire someone to run it?
Yup. That's EXACTLY what I'm telling you. That's what was required to bill Medicare, and Dr. Journeay (sp?) retired (again) because he, and his patients, just plain couldn't afford it. His practice was a small neighborhood sole proprietorship.
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Homework in Teach....That sounds like a crock of caca! Sell it to Tea Nuts that are big buyers of shit
The "do your homework" referred to going out and seeing how many doctors in your area will or won't take Medicare patients, or will or won't accept Medicare insurance assignments as payment.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:13 AM   #21
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Your are right JB.
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After a few years of Obamacare, we will envy Canada's healthcare system. Our population is nine times the population of Canada and we are much more diverse. We have a 2,000 mile border with a third world country. The quality of our healthcare, under the new system, is going to be horrific.
In a small but promising way, the House took up rules discussions (yesterday) on the debate to nullify ObamaCareTax.

And Gov. Perry said he won't set up the required healthcare exchanges. Our politicians, with the help of citizens, need to stop ObamaCareTax in it's tracks as soon as possible.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:22 AM   #22
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Your are right JB.

In a small but promising way, the House took up rules discussions (yesterday) on the debate to nullify ObamaCareTax.

And Gov. Perry said he won't set up the required healthcare exchanges. Our politicians, with the help of citizens, need to stop ObamaCareTax in it's tracks as soon as possible.

We should start referring to this monster as ObamacareTax.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:22 AM   #23
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And the Middle Class will be the hardest hit. It will be a double whammy on the middle Class:

1. ObamaCareTax is paying for the tax credits and subsidies by jacking the premiums of the middle class; the cost of insuring the poor and the high cost pre-existing coverage will be shifted to the middle class policyholders.

2. The poor, who had limited access, will now be getting the same healthcare access as working and middle class Americans. The system will be overloaded and many in the middle class will be shut out of care that they once had. Of course, the rich will do fine and still have their platinum private pay coverage with access to the best and cutting edge treatments - here and abroad.

The poor benefit, the rich aren't impacted, and Obama screws working middle class Americans again.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:24 AM   #24
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Copyright that JB !!!!!!!!!!!!


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We should start referring to this monster as ObamacareTax.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:34 AM   #25
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And the Middle Class will be the hardest hit. It will be a double whammy on the middle Class:

1. ObamaCareTax is paying for the tax credits and subsidies by jacking the premiums of the middle class.

2. The poor, who had limited access, will not be getting the same healthcare access as working and middle class Americans. The system will be overloaded and many in the middle class will be shut out of care that they once had. Of course, the rich will do fine and still have their platinum private pay coverage with access to the best and cutting edge treatments - here and abroad.

The poor benefit, the rich aren't impacted, and Obama screws working middle class Americans again.
The middle class will ultimately pay for most of the cost of Obamacare. The poor can't pay because they have no money. The rich can't pay for all of it, because there are too few of them. The middle class will carry the burden.

Someone once asked Willie Sutton, the famous bank robber, why he robbed banks. He said, because that's where they keep the money. The middle class will not be protected from extremely high tax rates for much longer, because the feds are going to have to get massive amounts of money to keep the monster fed for a few more years.
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:35 PM   #26
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The middle class will ultimately pay for most of the cost of Obamacare. The poor can't pay because they have no money. The rich can't pay for all of it, because there are too few of them. The middle class will carry the burden.

Someone once asked Willie Sutton, the famous bank robber, why he robbed banks. He said, because that's where they keep the money. The middle class will not be protected from extremely high tax rates for much longer, because the feds are going to have to get massive amounts of money to keep the monster fed for a few more years.


the middle class eh ...

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Tax Credits

  • Tax credits for individuals and families with incomes up to 400 percent of poverty (which is just over $88,000 for a family of four).
  • Tax credits up to 35% – 50% of costs for some small businesses.
Tax Increases
  • Raise Medicare payroll tax to 2.35% from 1.45% for individuals earning more than $200,000 ($250,000 for married couples).
  • Expand Medicare tax to include unearned income of 3.8% on investment income making more than $200,000 ($250,000 for families).
yup, the middle class
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:31 PM   #27
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Blah, blah, blah...

I remember back when Johnson started medicare/medicaid, 83% of doctors where going to quit then too.
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blah, blah, blah...I remember when Johnson said his War on Poverty would put an end poverty in America........it didn't, and the Democrats wasted trillions in the process...but hey, they gained an indentured class of voters who can't find their way off the plantation.

And here is the promise Johnson made to the American people when he signed Medicare into law in Independence, Missouri...his speech is full of false promises, but here is the cherry on top !

"No longer will older Americans be denied the healing miracle of modern medicine. No longer will illness crush and destroy the savings that they have so carefully put away over a lifetime so that they might enjoy dignity in their later years. No longer will young families see their own incomes, and their own hopes, eaten away simply because they are carrying out their deep moral obligations to their parents, and to their uncles, and their aunts."

An obvious false promise..............

http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson...hom/650730.asp
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:44 PM   #29
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83% of 699 are CONSIDERING


says nothing about the big picture or any absolutes


but then COF never does consider either of those key elements does he?
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:03 PM   #30
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I'm pretty familiar with LBJ's skill at lying. I've still got some scars to prove it.

But doctors crying the sky is falling, I'm gonna quit, is an old song I've heard for a long time. Just now a new verse.

You want to see some doctors quit practicing? Stop all Medicare payments tomorrow.
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