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Originally Posted by Hercules
They're not always going to be "new". At some point they'll be established with a good reputation and should be willing to name names. Or they'll only be here a short while and on their exit exposes the predators. It's hard for me to believe any woman that gets treated that way doesn't eventually get pissed off enough to come forward. If those ladies aren't willing to cover their fellow sister's ass then why should I give a rat's ass if some guy is getting to fuck for pennies on the dollar.
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hercules, seriously??
it's pretty clear to me that women have been getting the short end of respect, being listened to, being believed since probably long before Jesus, the Jews, Mohammed, even Pharoh.
too many men discount what some women say, esp when they start stating what some jerk guy did to them. look at what happened to Anita Hill when she went up against Clarence Thomas. look at what happened to Malala Yousafzai for being a Pakistani activist for female education. look at what happened to hundreds of other women, some well-known, others not.
there is very little upside for a provider to state that client so-and-so pulled a fast one on her. and even if she had rock solid evidence, there's nothing she can do legally about it (unless he physically battered her or raped her or threatened her life). in this sub-culture, about the only thing she can do is say so-and-so pulled a fast one on her. and what will she get out of it? a bunch of shit from a bunch of guys doubting her left and right.
unfortunately, the cards are mostly stacked against any provider.
and they are stacked for guys who feel that it's
their (self-declared) privilege to get a discount or bargain in exchange for giving the provider some "help."
sure sounds kinda like what Harvey Weinstein did (*)
sometimes, women speaking up are taken seriously. but in general they arent.
maybe it's time for a #MeToo hashtag campaign here in eccie - to shine light on people (men or women) who coerce others. (**)
(* from his wikipedia page...
In October 2017, following sexual abuse allegations against Weinstein, he was dismissed from his company and expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.[3][4] By October 31, over 80 women had made allegations against Weinstein.[5] The allegations triggered the "#MeToo" social media campaign and many similar sexual abuse allegations against and dismissals of powerful men around the world, called the "Weinstein effect".)
(** an eccie user has accused me of (about 7 yrs ago) getting a provider really drunk at some public location (maybe after a gathering?) and then letting her fend for herself. i cannot remember ever doing such a thing, much less even thinking about doing such a thing. since the provider is off the grid, i have little chance of finding out from her if i did such a thing)