Oh What The Fuck Is Going On With People

[rexdutchman]

The issue is with people and the ineffective CJ ( under attach and change by the Liberals for years)
Back in the day ( yes i'm old) we were afraid of LE-and Jail , now no one is ? ( when I was a kid le would beat your ass then take you home and your ass would get beat again)

[grean]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

If you get rid of bail, you’re going to have to amend the Constitution.

I'm not saying get rid of it completely , just raise the bar on who is allowed to receive it. Police arrest people all the time on various charges. After review, the DA chooses not pursue an indictments on many of those, right? If a DA feels there is enough solid evidence to get an indictment, how is due process not served by bail being set extremely high or denied out right?

Bail is denied in a lot of cases or is set where it effectively cannot be made, no? Flight risk or other reasons, right? Off the top of my head,many of the bikers, depending on their charges from the Waco shootout last year were allowed bail but it was set so high they couldn't make it. They therefore had to sit in jail until trial.

Help me to see the constitutional violation, please?

How is the required 5 million dollar insurance policy for firearm ownership that you previously suggested,not a violation of the constitution?

[Crock]

Originally Posted by doctalay

Its way too easy for criminals and future criminals to get guns in this country. Thats a fact. Despite rising homicide and mass murder rates, our country's current policy seems to be for the producing and selling more guns under lax gun regulations. Our current policy is not working. Somethings gotta change and it should

That's not a fact, that's a lie.

The number of privately held firearms in America has nearly doubled in the last two decades while the number of gun murders per capita was cut in half.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by grean

I'm not saying get rid of it completely , just raise the bar on who is allowed to receive it. Police arrest people all the time on various charges. After review, the DA chooses not pursue an indictments on many of those, right? If a DA feels there is enough solid evidence to get an indictment, how is due process not served by bail being set extremely high or denied out right?

Bail is denied in a lot of cases or is set where it effectively cannot be made, no? Flight risk or other reasons, right? Off the top of my head,many of the bikers, depending on their charges from the Waco shootout last year were allowed bail but it was set so high they couldn't make it. They therefore had to sit in jail until trial.

Help me to see the constitutional violation, please?

How is the required 5 million dollar insurance policy for firearm ownership that you previously suggested,not a violation of the constitution?

The Constitution requires reasonable bail. True, in some cases, no bail has been found not to be excessive. However, what you seem to be proposing is in essences excessive bail.

There is no provision in the Constitution that prohibits insurance. In fact, properly read, there should be no private right if gun ownership in the Constitution. That is the creation of activist judges.

[dallasfan]

Think if they get caught committing one of these crimes... no trial...gun to the head...bang... save tax payers some money.

[grean]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

The Constitution requires reasonable bail. True, in some cases, no bail has been found not to be excessive. However, what you seem to be proposing is in essences excessive bail.

There is no provision in the Constitution that prohibits insurance. In fact, properly read, there should be no private right if gun ownership in the Constitution. That is the creation of activist judges.

All I'm saying is to expand the criteria for cases where no bail is found to be excessive. If you get charged for assault with a deadly weapon and make bail, and if you get charged a second time before your trial, kind of proving that you are a continuing danger to society, no bail should be found to be excessive that 2nd round.

You got due process, no?

[grean]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

There is no provision in the Constitution that prohibits insurance. In fact, properly read, there should be no private right if gun ownership in the Constitution. That is the creation of activist judges.

Do you really think an insurance premium stops this guy? He had a TRO that prevented him fron bearing arms.

As I've preached over and over, people with a mind to kill ignore laws and will obtain whatever they want to do so.

Phil Johnston, Tehama County’s assistant sheriff, stated the following:

“These firearms were manufactured illegally, we believe, by him at his home,” Johnston said Wednesday. “So they (the guns) were obtained in an illegal manner, not through a legal process. They are not registered.”

This is the statement we will see more of if 2A is restricted more, by the way. We will still have to experience these tragedies.

On the highway, you see a speed limit sign. You speed anyway. It's illegal and if you get caught, you know you'll get a ticket. Still didn't stop you from speeding.

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

There is no provision in the Constitution that prohibits insurance. In fact, properly read, there should be no private right if gun ownership in the Constitution. That is the creation of activist judges.

Can you name anything else in the bill of rights that requires you to buy insurance before you get that right?

You have a interesting interpretation of the second amendment if you think it was intended to disarm citizens and prohibit them from owning firearms in the 1700's. Did the founding fathers intend for them to dial 911 for help in the wilderness and buy meat at Albertsons grocery store? Seems odd that they never got around to enforcing their intentions.

[rexdutchman]

TexTushog- WTF people and right to bear is simple even for the liberals to understand ,( doesn't say only in 2 ad)

[2short@desky]

These attacks stem from lack of morals of the highest perches of the land. Look at Congress, the Clintons, Hollywood, the press, late night comedy, tolerated and promoted gang activity, sanctuary cities, heralded confused sexual identities, drug usage and violence, marijuana legality, open borders, on and on...then cap it with a cultivated sense of entitlement. What we have is "trickle down" deterioration of social mores. Why would anybody be surprised? No freaking law will fix this.

The fall of historical civilizations sequence.

From bondage to spiritual faith,
From spiritual faith to great courage,
From courage to liberty,
From liberty to abundance,
From abundance to selfishness,
From selfishness to complacency,
From complacency to apathy,
From apathy to dependency,
From dependency back again to bondage.

Alexander Tytler