PIMPS

[OldGrump]

Being independent takes the courage to trust yourself to make a living when you aren't assured of your next paycheck.

A pimp may seem stable and in control. They offer the necessities and play on the girls emotions to keep them attached.This is not taking into the consideration of darker attractions that are taboo.

I'm still struggling with the line between Agencies, Managers, Schedulers, and Pimps. The freedom to go independent with impunity or the fee split are strong factors in my mind.

[soapbox]
Because I am strongly opposed to any female having sex against her desire, I cautiously view those "Agencies" where the owners have sex with the (employees, consultants, girls, etc). Many claim it is optional but I call BS. To me it is rape and should be prosecuted.[/soapbox]

[str8.2.bbbj]

Why is it no one brings up "The Godfather" when the subject of pimps comes up? Nobody really cares about studios and AMPs. It's life in the lane.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other about this issue because the fact that there are hobbyists makes it possible to have pimps. If no one was in the market for pussy, nobody would work to fill that need. So buy actively look to buy pussy, we create demand and thusly employ (and motivate) the pimps.

Life is a circle and we are all connected.

If you wanna bitch, birch about the FED, the govt, or the multinationals. Shit, how many of the products that we buy every day are made by children forced to work in abject, deplorable conditions? But I'm supposed to feel bad about a chick who probably had a bad attitude who ran away got caught out there and made a decision based on her survival needs?

How can you judge one against the other? Oh, I know. The pimp/thug is black guy making money off your pretty, lily white ATF, and those lil Chinese kids (who make your fucking iPhone for $0.02 an hour) are "over there".

That's not racist, that's real. I love hookers and I respect what they do. These ladies provide an invaluable (well I guess it does have a value lol) service that has kept me (on more than one occasion) from pulling my hair out or choking someone...or both.

I guess what I'm saying is...Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. If you hate pimps so much stop buying pussy and the "street pimps" will disappear. But since we all love buying pussy so much just live and let live and don't worry about what goes on behind closed doors with these ladies.

[Fortisb43]

Originally Posted by macbeth1000

If the pimp is there to help manage her money, why then do they start scams like jumping into the room and having the client run off without the money. I would think the provider and her pimp would realize that this isn't good business sense.

I think the stereotype of the 'pimp in the closet' is pretty outdated. In this day and age, being a keyboard pimp is probably a lot more lucrative. There is little need for 'enforcement' or being there to bail our your stable, as 90% of the action isn't happening on the street.

I see pimps as a natural byproduct of the market. A lot of you dudes have a sweet tooth for 18-23 year olds. And very few of those girls are sitting around thinking about how to make money and decide to become a provider. And even if they did, would they have the business savvy to manage a schedule? Or weed through the hagglers, time wasters, 'i'm a board vet, give me a freebie and you'll get a ton of business', barebackers, 'I'll teach you the ropes guy', mysognynists to get to the normal clients?

Pimps end up being a gateway for a lot of providers to enter the market. The really good ones are invisible. I remember seeing a woman a few times who I would have sworn was an indy...then told me how she had just broken away from her pimp. I was floored. Before one of our next session, she gave me an earful about 'the game' that had all been behind the curtain to me. it was an eyeopener.

(Unfortunately handling her own business proved to be too much for her - she spiraled out pretty quickly. it's almost like she needed the structure.)

I try to do all my business with independents, but as long as the hobby is around, I know pimps will be part of the game.

[The Scrumptious Sypress]

Some women don't know how to manage their own money that's why they have PIMPS and PIMPS manipulate their minds having them think that they can't do anything without a PIMP

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by macbeth1000

Yes, We have to talk about this. I must ask, why do some women feel the need to have a PIMP. ...
SO I ask again, why the need for pimps?

you can ask it, but no we dont have to talk about this.

unless you are just wanting to vent and not going to do something about it,
why the fuck does it matter why a woman chooses to have a pimp or chooses to be under the control of a pimp??

there are at least a million and fourteen reasons why.



but if you want to do something about this, start and support educating young girls in the 3-4-5th grade that there are many options for a career that dont involve selling the use of their body for another's pleasure or whatever. [which can be a rewarding and safe career].

or go and work w/ organizations that identify, stop, and prosecute human trafficking and forced prostitution.

or become a vice police officer/detective and work to identify, stop, and prosecute human trafficking and forced prostitution.

but venting/asking about it does absolutely nothing to prevent/stop this activity.


[my pet peeve is people "wondering why..." something in this hobby occurs.
research it and come w/ some stats and some solutions.
"dont come to me w/ problems. come to me w/ a problem and 3 possible solutions"]

[macbeth1000]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

you can ask it, but no we dont have to talk about this.

unless you are just wanting to vent and not going to do something about it,
why the fuck does it matter why a woman chooses to have a pimp or chooses to be under the control of a pimp??

there are at least a million and fourteen reasons why.



but if you want to do something about this, start and support educating young girls in the 3-4-5th grade that there are many options for a career that dont involve selling the use of their body for another's pleasure or whatever. [which can be a rewarding and safe career].

or go and work w/ organizations that identify, stop, and prosecute human trafficking and forced prostitution.

or become a vice police officer/detective and work to identify, stop, and prosecute human trafficking and forced prostitution.

but venting/asking about it does absolutely nothing to prevent/stop this activity.


[my pet peeve is people "wondering why..." something in this hobby occurs.
research it and come w/ some stats and some solutions.
"dont come to me w/ problems. come to me w/ a problem and 3 possible solutions"]

If your pet peeve is people asking why, my pet peeve is about people that have nothing to add yet they open their mouth and nonsense falls out.

If you don't have anything constructive to add well there is the door.

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

Why is it no one brings up "The Godfather" when the subject of pimps comes up? Nobody really cares about studios and AMPs. It's life in the lane.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other about this issue because the fact that there are hobbyists makes it possible to have pimps. If no one was in the market for pussy, nobody would work to fill that need. So buy actively look to buy pussy, we create demand and thusly employ (and motivate) the pimps.

Life is a circle and we are all connected.

If you wanna bitch, birch about the FED, the govt, or the multinationals. Shit, how many of the products that we buy every day are made by children forced to work in abject, deplorable conditions? But I'm supposed to feel bad about a chick who probably had a bad attitude who ran away got caught out there and made a decision based on her survival needs?

How can you judge one against the other? Oh, I know. The pimp/thug is black guy making money off your pretty, lily white ATF, and those lil Chinese kids (who make your fucking iPhone for $0.02 an hour) are "over there".

That's not racist, that's real. I love hookers and I respect what they do. These ladies provide an invaluable (well I guess it does have a value lol) service that has kept me (on more than one occasion) from pulling my hair out or choking someone...or both.

I guess what I'm saying is...Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. If you hate pimps so much stop buying pussy and the "street pimps" will disappear. But since we all love buying pussy so much just live and let live and don't worry about what goes on behind closed doors with these ladies.

str8.2.bbbj, exactamundo !!!!!

people who want to play a game need to either learn how to play the game or find another game to play.
or they can play the game and work to improve it [identifying problems and coming up w/ solutions; proposing new rules/guidelines,; etc.]

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by macbeth1000

If your pet peeve is people asking why, my pet peeve is about people that have nothing to add yet they open their mouth and nonsense falls out.

If you don't have anything constructive to add well there is the door.

macbeth, i'm sorry you had to go that recent encounter and glad you made it out safe. [btw, did you think about the woman that was in that encounter - is she safe? do you care?]
however, if you had not gone thru that recent episode, would you have even started this thread?? seriously, would you have done so??

wrt "constructive", did you read paragraphs #4, 5, or 6??
shit or get off the pot!

wrt your pet peeve, did you read my statement "my pet peeve is people "wondering why..." something in this hobby occurs."
i often ask questions about things in and out of the hobby.
but i also research things rather than just ask a question like "why the need for pimps?"

[macbeth1000]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

macbeth, if you had not gone thru that recent episode, would you have even started this thread??
seriously, would you have done so??

wrt "constructive", did you read paragraphs #4, 5, or 6??
shit or get off the pot!

wrt your pet peeve, did you read my statement "my pet peeve is people "wondering why..." something in this hobby occurs."
i often ask questions about things in and out of the hobby.
but i also research things rather than just ask something like "i'm gonna be in dallas for 8 hrs. are there any hot women here that i can see?"

Probably not, if I wasn't nearly robbed I probably won't have posted this however since I was and since there is nothing apart from trying to get a topic out on this so maybe, maybe a pimped girl would read and hopefully hear from other ladies that if she needs to be in this lifestyle, she can do it on her own.
I don't intend to start a not for profit, this topic is enough for me in this matter.

[L.A.]

Pimps are bad.

[melannie_star]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

macbeth, i'm sorry you had to go that recent encounter and glad you made it out safe. [btw, did you think about the woman that was in that encounter - is she safe? do you care?]
however, if you had not gone thru that recent episode, would you have even started this thread?? seriously, would you have done so??

wrt "constructive", did you read paragraphs #4, 5, or 6??
shit or get off the pot!

wrt your pet peeve, did you read my statement "my pet peeve is people "wondering why..." something in this hobby occurs."
i often ask questions about things in and out of the hobby.
but i also research things rather than just ask a question like "why the need for pimps?"

In all realness.. I think it is really sad. I think girls need to stay home till they are atleast 21 years of age. Hell, I was on my own at the age of 17 . By the grace of god, I made it in life ok. That does not mean it came easy. If I had not been so hard headed and stubborn who knows what my life would be. I had to learn the hard way.. and I have a feeling so will she. This is life, not a game. If I could say one thing.. that poor girl just needs to get out of this profession and go home to her parents, before something even more serious happens to her. I do not regret my path in the industry or anything from my past because it made me the person I am today, and I love it. But not many girls who start young have the same mind mentality of a strong woman who can stand on their own. If they need someone to handle things for them.. then they are not old enough to be out in the real world. Go home, go to school , do something with yourself. She is the main one who needs to be reading this because after Eccie becomes backpage, after back page becomes the streets.. and good luck with that!
So sad.. to the OP I am glad you made it out ok. For the young lady.. you have bigger problems than eccie to deal with.. Get your life together girl.

[Guest060214]

Originally Posted by TinMan

Come to think of it, Jamie Dimon does sound like a pimp name.

he is making sure that a lot of people get fucked out of their money.

His first girl would be named, London Whale

[str8.2.bbbj]

And I'm not saying that it isn't "sad" (whatever that means ). I'm saying johns judging pimps is like pimps judging hookers--one feeds the other.

[macbeth1000]

Originally Posted by str8.2.bbbj

And I'm not saying that it isn't "sad" (whatever that means ). I'm saying johns judging pimps is like pimps judging hookers--one feeds the other.

Normally when you write things, I don't read it however I did read a post you made a long time ago and it stuck with me because I guess you worked on the other side based on one comment you made that made me arrive at that conclusion.
There is a massive difference here, You could be a client and see a woman on her own terms not a woman being pushed at the terms of her pimp, these are two different situations.
Frankly I don't care if a woman is pimped, to be honest you can't save someone that can't see that they need help, they have to reach rock bottom before they reach for help.
I however was just curious as to why women that say that they are independent ie I make my own money would allow low life pieces of shit to take it from them. That's all I wanted to know

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by melannie_star

[SIZE=3]... If they need someone to handle things for them.. then they are not old enough to be out in the real world ... Go home, go to school ...

+1000. TCB is pretty basic shit.