Obamacare too expensive for Congressmen and staffers

[Guest040616]

JD's busted.................

For the umpteenth time!

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Your reseach abilities are lacking as usual. There is this website called Google. You use it to search for things.


If you type in "$20000" and "obamacare", you find the link you posted as well as most of of the fringe "news" sites.


But wait. The 4th result down. Factcheck.org. They list all of their sources. Let's check what they say.


And that's where you fail. That's where you are exposed as a blinder wearing, bullshit slinging douche-bag who frequently lies in his posts.


Everyone knows who you are and what you kneel for. Whirly, sog, and the late Uncle hanjob accepted you into their misinformation circle of mistrust. Because they, like the klan and the nra, will accept anyone who is willing to parrot.

I guess if you had to really dig for the info, you would only be lazy. But you ignore a reasonable source. In this case, because the information is readily available, you are lying by omission.

You should stick to opinion. Because no opinion is wrong or a lie. Unless of cource you try to sneak one of your "facts" in.

Q: Did the IRS say that the cheapest health insurance plan under the federal health care law would cost $20,000 per family?
A: No. The IRS used $20,000 in a hypothetical example to illustrate how it will calculate the tax penalty for a family that fails to obtain health coverage as required by law. Treasury says the figure “is not an estimate of premiums.”

In the same article.
The Kaiser Family Foundation has developed a “Health Reform Subsidy Calculator,” which allows people to get a sense of who might be eligible for premium support from the government, and how much the subsidy might be. (It is just an illustration, though, and not meant to suggest that this is exactly what people will pay or receive in subsidies.) Assuming a medium-range regional cost factor, the premium for a 50-year-old policyholder — in a family of four, with a household income of $92,200 — could be $16,858, according to the subsidy calculator. But that family might also qualify for an $8,099 subsidy, leaving them to pay $8,759. That estimate is close to the average subsidy of $8,290 that CBO projects exchange participants would receive in 2023

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/03/oba...0000-a-family/

Nice disclaimer. Do they have a code for Okool-aid intoxication in Okool-aid care?

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Nice disclaimer. Do they have a code for Okool-aid intoxication in Okool-aid care?

No, but they do have a new code for Hanoi COG's fascination with IIFFY.

The Code Words are: "Sweet Ass"

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Nice disclaimer. Do they have a code for Okool-aid intoxication in Okool-aid care?

fucking brilliant.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

fucking brilliant.

If you actually think that was brilliant, then that explains a lot.

[JD Barleycorn]

I don't do Google. Only the foolish do Google. Do you understand the concept of generalization? When the CBO or any other entity does an numbes analysis there is not one single, golden number that is the answer. Only an idiot believes that. It is an analogy, an example, a SWAG. Remember when the Obamatons went from coverage to cost (instead of getting the 40 million without healthcare to making it affordable) they came up with a number that was just a little over a trillion dollars. Now that number has more than doubled and 30 million people still won't have coverage. Why don't you scream about those numbers?

To conclude; only a fucking fool (such as yourselves) would take any number from government as the real number about anything. It is understood to the intelligent that these numbers are only poor estimates. Still, when you want to talk numbers you have to use something and that includes these numbers that have never been debunked no matter how many times you say it. The real important thing to remember is that you as a US citizen are being forced to purchase something under penalty of law. In nearly every instance it will cost you more than you pay now. Staffers are leaving their jobs to attempt to grandfather themselves into a corrupt program that should be abolished. This demonstrates that the people on the inside who should know better are trying to flee the program that they are responsible for. Like watching the animals taking cover before a violent storm, they know something is about to happen.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Now that number has more than doubled and 30 million people still won't have coverage. Why don't you scream about those numbers?

Do you have a link? If Romneycare can work in Mass, then the ACA can work in other states. They both have the same mandate, you are required to purchase health insurance or pay a fine ( or pay a tax as Chief Justice Roberts calls it).

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Doove

If you actually think that was brilliant, then that explains a lot.

Oops. Nevermind.

People using other people's avatars.....gets confusing.

[JD Barleycorn]

Do you know why it "worked" in Massachusetts? Because they could fall back on federal funds to make up any short fall. You don't have that for Obamacare. Who are you going to go to? The UN?

And if it worked so well in Massachusetts then why not do it in every state independently and screw Obamacare?

[Yssup Rider]

Did kiss-M'ASSachusssets ever do that BSWine?

Please provide evidence that Massachussets "fell back" on the Feds when Romneycare didn't work.

Busted again!!!

[GymRat]

Once again, let's consult Shirley Q Liquor's wisdom on Obama Care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuypHXaIFw

[Yssup Rider]

Are you really in Vidor, Bunba?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Do you know why it "worked" in Massachusetts? Because they could fall back on federal funds to make up any short fall. You don't have that for Obamacare. Who are you going to go to? The UN?

And if it worked so well in Massachusetts then why not do it in every state independently and screw Obamacare?

It's true that the Federal Gov. sends the state of Mass a monthly check to help them administer Romney Care. The Federal Gov. is also spending a Trillion dollars for Obamacare. Romney Care is a state plan passed by the Mass. State Legislature. If any other state wants a plan like Romney Care, their state legislature would have to pass the bill and their governor sign it into law. Each state can Opt out of Obamacare if it wants to, the default is your state is in unless you opt out. New York and California are in and have already begun setting up the government insurance exchanges. So if you don't have health insurance, just don't get sick until 1/1/2014. If you are 26 or less then get on your parents plan right now(even if you have a pre-existing condition).

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Nice disclaimer. Do they have a code for Okool-aid intoxication in Okool-aid care?

You see the exposure of a liar is in some way a kool-aid event.

jdouche-bag is not on friendly terms with the truth. He never really has been. You folks are just enablers and tend not to be on friendly terms with the truth either.

How do we know? You never offer proof. You call someone else a liar but present no evidence.

Like we should take your word.

[Yssup Rider]

Thats no lie, MM!