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Old 09-20-2012, 10:30 PM   #16
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Honestly, a lot could be accomplished through heavier vetting, and standardization. The simple fact that there is negotiation occurring off the bat is a significant hurdle. Finding a method to group providers in a way where essential services are provided at a flat rate for new customers, the transaction is non-negotiable, and they are all filmed for the purposes of creating an adult film. Money paid is for camera rental, prop use, etc. For the purpose of the actresses safety, the new film maker provides ID, just like you would for the rental of any equipment. Classify the suite I'm that manner. Have waivers signed regarding the film ownership and use. Apply any and all rules that apply to making adult films. If the working relationship goes well, then there should not be need for the while process to repeat at each meeting... That would be silly.

I think gentlemen would honestly get accustomed to this process over time, if strictly enforced. It just requires the vast majority to participate. It does not have to be communicated to the gents EXACTLY what will happen at the meeting. It may require an initial reduction in price point until future system balances out. But you could make the argument for a subsequent return to higher prices that you are paying for security, and if a customer, I mean aspiring director and actor, wants to participate, this is how it is done. Make the film, give it to him, he is on his way.

Some genius will need to devise classifications and standards. Think about what is provided to any and every newbie director, the standard price point, potentially different between subgroups. I mean, not every camera cost the same. Are we talking still images? Video take? HD digital recording? Multiple cameras? You get the gist.

Take negotiation and any discussion of sex completely out if it for anybody you have no reason to trust, make the legal aspect non-debatable, and you could win. If the girls join together and do this collectively, the guys who want a chance to jump in the movie game will have no choice but to play ball, or choose far riskier behavior.
You do realize we're talking about hookers here right?
They can't even care enough to make half their appointments let alone following through with all this shit.
Besides i don't think any woman here wants their trade legalized. Then they'd have to pay taxes and who wants to do that?
Fuck if i could find a way not to I'd do it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:00 AM   #17
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Reading other people's reviews in order to contact chicks to fuck ....
#1: I have thought that was the purpose of reading reviews.

#2: At least for now posting reviews is not mandatory for being on the board.

So, before I get chastized for being off topic is that about LL not posting reviews?

Or is this thread about "saving whores of the world"?
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:03 AM   #18
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#1: Okay LL, it was ordered to take it to a new thread, so

... I'm honestly interested.
As for #1 my reading comprehension says otherwise.

As for #2 my reading comprehension says otherwise.

So, you have at it .. "buddy"!
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:29 AM   #19
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It's about both. Tell us your plan, which is obviously why you're here. You're not here to fuck chicks, that's obvious, because if you we're using other people's reviews to fuck chicks while saying that those same reviews are the reason chicks get busted and no one should write them, then you'd be a hypocritical douchebag, and no one wants to think that about you, I'm sure.

So you have some reason to be here, and it has something to do with all this legal advice you drop on us about how we're the direct cause of every hooker, spa or agency bust that ever happens, so please, enlighten us about your existence here and what you want to change to save the hookers...
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:51 AM   #20
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Wait... Aren't the reviews dangerous, in regards to entomb the threat from LE, and also making defense more difficult by allowing the prosecution to shore up their arguments for intent? Just because you recognize the inherent risk in something doesn't mean you have to find that thing irrationally abhorrent. Yes, the reviews represent a problem. No, they are not going to just stop. But it is worth acknowledging, if only to slow for conversation on how to mitigate the risk, if only slightly.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:01 AM   #21
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It's about both. Tell us your plan, which is obviously why you're here. You're not here to fuck chicks, that's obvious, because if you we're using other people's reviews to fuck chicks while saying that those same reviews are the reason chicks get busted and no one should write them, then you'd be a hypocritical douchebag, and no one wants to think that about you, I'm sure.

So you have some reason to be here, and it has something to do with all this legal advice you drop on us about how we're the direct cause of every hooker, spa or agency bust that ever happens, so please, enlighten us about your existence here and what you want to change to save the hookers...
Your logic is completely flawed. Not everybody has to write a diary entry every time they have sex. Second, establishing something is dangerous does not preclude somebody from enjoying the fruits of said behavior. I would never encourage someone to go out to the woods to taunt bears, but when the show comes out, maybe I pull up to watch "When Bears Attack." It's not hypocrisy, ad he is not making a statement about ethics. Do you disagree with him? Do you think LE doesn't use the reviews? And you said I am naive. If recognizing an activity as risky, for yourself or the other participants, means partaking is not ethical, then every single person here us guilty.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:08 AM   #22
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Still waiting for his plan...then the responses can start...
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So le does not use the reviews?
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:39 AM   #24
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So le does not use the reviews?
Shaitan, ...you are "off topic"!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:44 AM   #25
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Okay LL, it was ordered to take it to a new thread, so I'll ask it here, what's your plan to stop the feds, local cops, state cops, and anyone else with a badge, from learning anything from this site that can be used to bust providers, whether independent, spa, or agency.

Have at it buddy, I'm honestly interested.
See Shaitan ... this is the thread topic.

And Wakeup .. since I was not "ordered to take it to a new thread" I have not done so. You have a nice day, ok?
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:47 AM   #26
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Shaitan, ...you are "off topic"!
I suppose so. But just to make sure, never point out a risk, no matter how valid, or you will be tasked with developing the solution to it. If you don't have a plan, then you are flayed.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:49 AM   #27
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See Shaitan ... this is the thread topic.

And Wakeup .. since I was not "ordered to take it to a new thread" I have not done so. You have a nice day, ok?
You've got to understand that by his very nature, wakeup is a warrior at heart.

Unfortunately he's using this site to fight his battles. I guess 'normal' life is boring to a guy who's 'been there, done that'.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:53 AM   #28
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I believe reviews can't be used against hookers or johns in a court of law. It's inadmissible.
The prosecution may try or merely use it as past behavior exhibited but the only evidence permissible is what actually went down at the time of the arrest.
Texts, email phone calls etc.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:55 AM   #29
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You've got to understand that by his very nature, wakeup is a warrior at heart.

Unfortunately he's using this site to fight his battles. I guess 'normal' life is boring to a guy who's 'been there, done that'.
And your a pretentious, passive/aggressive prat.
Your point is?
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I just figured he wasn't hugged enough as a child.

It's got to be awesome to be your own biggest fan.


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You've got to understand that by his very nature, wakeup is a warrior at heart.

Unfortunately he's using this site to fight his battles. I guess 'normal' life is boring to a guy who's 'been there, done that'.
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