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Originally Posted by LilMynx69
This just isn't consistently true. I doubt most will be willing to send naked photos of themself, but seeing that sending nude photos between consenting adults is not illegal, I would say this might be ok in some jurisdictions - depending on policy, not law. That said, a beginner photoshopper could easily photoshop someone eles's face on a different nude body to fool even a careful screener.
As to engaging in sexual activities...I still believe this is an Urban Myth...I don't believe that LE is ever "allowed" to engage in sexual activiites ("deviant" or not) to make a bust. It simply is not worth it and doesn't even make sense. What I do believe is that some corrupt cops might have sex with a prostitute, then bust her after and not admit to the sex act. I also think this is something prostitutes claim in order to they to beat the rap.
I have yet to ever see a case where the police officer had sex with someone and arrested her after the fact, admitted it and had the case stand up in court. If I am wrong...please tell me.
That said, many jurisdictions do allow officers to get totally naked, kiss, and touch in order to "prove they aren't LE" and facilitate an arrest.
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You are wrong.
It is not an Urban Legend, it has happened in multiple jurisdictions across the country - a quick read of threads here in this forum will get you to news articles with specific case citations. And yes, it stands up to judicial scrutiny.
There have been multiple cases reported, the most recent one discussed in this forum occurred on the East Coast - it was a topic here not too long ago and the story was hot-linked.
Kansas City, Kansas police were notorious in the past for this type of activity although it seems to have waned within the last several years.
Jurisdictions where I personally know ladies that have had
full sex with an UC LEO that has lead to arrest and subsequent conviction include: Kansas City, KS (as mentioned); Boise, ID; Washington, DC; Atlanta (and suburbs) GA; Omaha, NE; Des Moines, IA; and various departments in and around Chicago (Naperville, especially). In all but one of these cases there was video presented to the court in support of the charge. They all withstood scrutiny.
Has there been occasional fallout from the public over such incidents? Certainly, in fact,
that was the topic of discussion regarding the last reported incident on the East Coast (the Chief of Police there defending his officer's actions against an outraged public) - but many times the records are sealed to protect the identity of their UC officer and the public simply doesn't know it happens.
Aside from the list I have delineated, there are dozens of other jurisdictions across the country where the completion of a sex act has been met with arrest and the "John" was in fact, an UC LEO. does it stand up all the time, no. many times judges are appalled and toss it - most of the time, however, LE will find a way to clue the judiciary in to the activity before it happens, by asking a sitting judge within the same circuit that will hear the case to approve a CI/CW to work it along with the officers and detail the activity to the bench prior to running the operation - "dirty pool" but it happens all the time where the courts insist on oversight of CI/CW.
It isn't COMMON, but when you consider the (perceived) betrayal of the public trust that somewhat accompanies LE activities such as this, it is widely reported when it is known by the media to occur.
Also, I believe the updated MSNBC "special" they air in rotation frequently details the "heroic efforts of the officers that place themselves in danger to actually complete sex acts with prostitutes to insure felony arrest" (I'm paraphrasing, but I bet I'm pretty close, I've watched it in disgust several times).
As others have pointed out within this thread, LE can pretty much do as they please as long as they do not entice you to do an illegal act you would not have otherwise done regardless of their presence in the specifc milieu.
Can you beat the charge? Hell, OJ beat his . . . can you beat talking the ride? Not likely.
As a wise man I once knew said, "If you're scared, go to church". In other words, accept the risk(s) - or choose to do something else.
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