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03-16-2015, 04:01 PM
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And millions more, LLIdiot. Millions more. With photo IDs!
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03-16-2015, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Explain how that isn't just blatant racism, waKKKo KKKid.
Or why you feel it's important that you denigrate this board with your ignorant redneckedness!
Hillbilly fuck.
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one again pencildick, you confuse racism with patriotism.
denigrate ?? moi ?? you of the many illustrious awards of dipshit of the year denigrate this board by your mere presence here.
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03-16-2015, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Actually in Missouri the appropriate charge ought to be First Degree Assault, which is punished as a Class A Felony and can carry a life sentence. From a prosecutorial point of view there is no reason to charge "attempted murder," since it requires the State to prove an "intent to kill" which merely increases the burden on the State without any additional punishment/time.
works for me.
It sounds better in the media, but over indicting/charging can get blow black from a jury when the State/Government fails to meet their burden of "intent to kill."
well, all prosecutors do this. overcharge. nothing new here, Perry Mason ![Smile](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Either one in Missouri will be a Class A Felony, so the punishment range is the same, and the judge can assess a life sentence ... especially for two deadly weapon assaults ... on police officers who are considered in Missouri (as most Model Penal Code states) as a "special class" of victim. In Texas police officers are lumped in with "public servants" as a "special class" of victims, and aggravated assault on a peace officer (public servant) is a 1st degree felony in Texas as well.
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as it should be.
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03-16-2015, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
What we've been told is that two shots were fired and two shots hit targets. Now he says that he was only shooting at people and not cops. Of course, shooting at cops gets you some heavy time in prison (if you make it to prison) but shooting just people can be plea bargained down to simple assault.
BULLSHIT! If I believe anything this jerk's lawyer has to say. Cops were shot in the performance of the their duties (he can't claim self defense) and he should go down for trying to KILL two cops.
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The king has spoken! It shall be so!
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All hail to his majesty, KKKing JD! What else is on your wishlist o mighty one?
We should also divert our resources to find his missing plane. There can only be so many wilted shrubs that it is hiding under!
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03-16-2015, 05:50 PM
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What does it say about the frame of mind of certain people when they say that shooting a pistol into a crowd with the hopes of hitting someone "isn't that bad".
Unbelievable.
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03-16-2015, 05:55 PM
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What does it say about the frame of mind of certain people when they say that shooting a pistol into a crowd with the hopes of hitting someone "isn't that bad".
Unbelievable.
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Who the fuck said that?
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03-16-2015, 07:16 PM
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All hail to his majesty, KKKing JD! What else is on your wishlist o mighty one?
We should also divert our resources to find his missing plane. There can only be so many wilted shrubs that it is hiding under! ![Roflmao](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/roflmao.gif)
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You know a couple of well-placed bushes could be concealing the entire plane.
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03-16-2015, 08:17 PM
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You get your news from the blaze. Somehow I knew that.
Your new name is snowball
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If you get to the truth does it really matter what website,channel or news source it came from ?
The truth is simply fact. No one source or agency owns it.
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03-17-2015, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
well, all prosecutors do this. overcharge....
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Not all.
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03-17-2015, 01:49 PM
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This whole thing is about a lawyer. He (or she) knows that shooting at, even if he missed, a cop gets more time than just shooting into a crowd. This is kind of like taking the fall for a robbery on the other side of town which gets you an alibi for a murder you did on this side of town.
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03-17-2015, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
This whole thing is about a lawyer. He (or she) knows that shooting at, even if he missed, a cop gets more time than just shooting into a crowd. This is kind of like taking the fall for a robbery on the other side of town which gets you an alibi for a murder you did on this side of town.
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Well, look at the bright side (glass 1/2 full). The lawyer (and I "assume" the thug aka "client") has confessed to having the pistol, holding the pistol, and shooting the pistol all at the same time when the two officer's were struck with rounds from the pistol. That is the State's "case-in-chief" and now the shooter takes the stand and explains .... err.... who he was actually trying to kill....
then the State rebuts with evidence that the genius could not have possibly been trying to shoot x, y, or z from the position at which he discharged the pistol in the direction of the officer's.
Now he's admitted pulling the trigger, but lied about his intent/motive. Then when he pleads for mercy on punishment, he'll be a lying sack of shit when he says he's sorry!
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03-17-2015, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Well, look at the bright side (glass 1/2 full). The lawyer (and I "assume" the thug aka "client") has confessed to having the pistol, holding the pistol, and shooting the pistol all at the same time when the two officer's were struck with rounds from the pistol. That is the State's "case-in-chief" and now the shooter takes the stand and explains .... err.... who he was actually trying to kill....
then the State rebuts with evidence that the genius could not have possibly been trying to shoot x, y, or z from the position at which he discharged the pistol in the direction of the officer's.
Now he's admitted pulling the trigger, but lied about his intent/motive. Then when he pleads for mercy on punishment, he'll be a lying sack of shit when he says he's sorry!
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Didn't they match the bullet to his gun, anyway?
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03-17-2015, 03:41 PM
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he's claiming the cops roughed him up and he has the bruises to prove it
and the "pastor" says he believes it and that he was "set up" by the police and the confession was beat out of him
just another item in the long line of hatred and racism and tribalism trumping truth and right or wrong once more.
get ready for an O. J. jury and maybe another emmett till in the making
another cause celebre for all the "fair minded" dims?
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03-17-2015, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DSK
Didn't they match the bullet to his gun, anyway?
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Based on the last "investigation" reports in the media ... my best answer is:
"I don't know."
Matching a slug or shell casing to his pistol doesn't put the pistol in his hand at shooting time with him pulling the trigger. The forensic/physical evidence will substantiate his "confession" (which is required ... some "independent" additional evidence to support it) ... and in the event he claims as is posted above that the confession was coerced, then the forensics becomes even more important.
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03-17-2015, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
he's claiming the cops roughed him up and he has the bruises to prove it
and the "pastor" says he believes it and that he was "set up" by the police and the confession was beat out of him
just another item in the long line of hatred and racism and tribalism trumping truth and right or wrong once more.
get ready for an O. J. jury and maybe another emmett till in the making
another cause celebre for all the "fair minded" dims?
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If I understand that his attorney talked about his "defense" to the media and what he reportedly said (I didn't hear it), then if he is now claiming his "admission" was coerced, then he may be having a new lawyer on board soon. Lawyer's need to understand the 5th amendment also, and quit trying to get air time to build their practice.
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