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12-31-2012, 04:25 PM
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Spin it how you want, Stevie. I'll take her words over some nut at the Daily Kos any day. BTW, she was there.
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12-31-2012, 04:47 PM
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Arent you tired of posting the same bullshit day and and day out?
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12-31-2012, 04:52 PM
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That proves to me you either didn't read or didn't comprehend the reprinting of the email in the Daily Kos. As I predicted, you decided to shoot the messenger instead of checking the authenticity of many of Kitty Werthmann's claims.
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12-31-2012, 06:49 PM
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I also watched The Fall of the Third Reich.[/QUOTE]
In person? J/k.
Btw. Congrats on the promotion. I disagree with you on most
Of your opinions.... But you are still ok with me. You're doing a good job.
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12-31-2012, 06:52 PM
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Effin' chuckle. Good one , dude.
He really had some potential as an artist. I've seen some of his work and as twisted as he was.... He had talent in that area. Too bad he got into politics.
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12-31-2012, 06:53 PM
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Pope Adolf I. His paintings would be highly sought after.
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More so than they are now? Try to find one for sale.
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01-02-2013, 02:44 AM
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I had an 80 plus year old German teacher who was a little girl in German during the war. She was not very happy with Mr. Hitler who she blames for her older brother's death. She has some interesting things to say about Germany in those days.
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01-02-2013, 06:38 AM
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Ahhhh, Teawipe revisionists.......
It's no surprise you would see great insight from a 10 year old.
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01-02-2013, 11:56 AM
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In response to timpage... has their ever been a president who has rounded up American citizens into concentration camps... the answer is yes, in fact, there have been two... Woodrow Wilson and FDR.... internment camps for Americans of German descent in World War I by Wilson and camps for Japanese, German, and Italian descent during WWII. Little facts that are glossed over in most history books now because they like to forget the nasty little aspects of our "great Progressive" Presidents....
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01-02-2013, 03:29 PM
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You're wasting your time COG and casting pearls before swine. Too many people lack the mental capacity and imagination to understand the danger. Germany was a civilized country with democratic institutions. The had Beethoven, Kant, Daimler, and Gutenburg. They had reason and eloquence. They considered themselves, rightfully so, to the center of Europe in industry, culture, entertainment, and intellect. How quickly they fell under a charismatic leader who promised them everything in return for their obedience. Their response is the best they can do for reasoned, clever response; "snick" says it all. Jonathan Swift has already written about them.
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“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
George Santayana
I always thought Swift was on the right track with his "A Modest Proposal." He would have made a good Republican.
http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html
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What can I say?
Except this isn't history repeating. You guys use the same flawed "logic" that has been proven false (plenty of examples if you want them) and untenable time after time.
You have all been caught in lies you don't even try to further defend after being bitch slapped with a link. You will see things the way you want to no matter what just like sog and his "truth".
Here is something pretty good.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/0...s-of-Anschluss
"While Ms. Werthmann does make some errors of fact, after some careful analysis, acknowledging that I am not highly versed in this specific history, I believe that her writing and speaking for the Republican party, now going on for some two decades, is based on her actual memories of events.
Here, of course, is where the similarity ends. Ms. Werthmann then makes assumptions that such similarity means that those of the left have the same intention, are of the same mentality of Hitler. She is very careful, never to say these exact words, but the allusions are obvious, as I will show in this example from her video:
In her essay she wrote
Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family
In the video she referred to Hitler's new rights for women as "The equal rights amendment" which, of course, was a provision that would have amended the United States constitution. It is highly unlikely that Hitler, who at the time was ruling by edict, needed an amendment of anything to do this.
This is just one clear example that Ms. Werthmann has managed to seamlessly merge in her own mind the most heinous man of the twentieth century with any Democratic Leader, specifically at this time, President Barach Obama. According to her story the actual fact that Hitler removed the crucifixes from the public schools, means that being opposed to Catholicism is the necessarily and sufficient condition for brutal dictatorship. The counter example of Spanish Dictator Francisco Franco, who as a defender of Catholicism ruled as an absolute dictator for over thirty five years does not interfere in this belief, since she benefits from the simplicity of her thinking.
While Werthmann has explained the shortage of medical care on Hitler's socialized medicine, here's another explanation, that happens to be authentic.
Medical care in general showed similar deficits. Before the Anschluss, more than 5000 physicians were practicing in Vienna; by 1942, the figure had decreased to 519 general practitioners and 211 specialists. The first anniversary of the above events was celebrated in a newspaper article by Professor Hans Eppinger: "Now that all disease has been eradicated, the Viennese School of Medicine can in future dedicate itself to its great task without inhibition"
What I can tell my friend Bill, and Kitty, were she ever to read this, is that she misses the essential quality of Hitler, that his quest for power was built on hatred--- of Jews, victors of WWI, Slavs, and all of those whom he saw as inferior. He happened to have emerged at a moment of great distress of the Germanic people. He was enough of an intuitive master of the art of politics to marshal this suffering to his own ends.
Hitler's job was made easier by the degree of hatred, the vicious murderous state of the Kulturkamph, a permutation of our own culture war that currently is on low simmer. Ms. Werthmann equating Obama to Hitler, does a disservice the her adopted country, and threatens this country that I believe she loves. She makes the possibility of her fears someday coming true that much more probable.
The constant drumbeat that lawful exercise of Presidential power is tantamount to tyranny creates a dire risk that healthy political dialog will be transformed into rabid mutual hatred, resulting in the very chaos that will produce an actual tyrant, someone with a Final Solution to all of our vexing social problems.
Nazism has not become the epitome of evil because Hitler promoted equality of women, universal health care or secular public education. He will forever be equated with evil because of a remorseless hatred that was divorced from reality. Our country has been immune to such excesses because with all of our disagreements about policy, we have preserved a common set of values, along with mutual respect for those whom we disagree with.
It's sad that Kitty Werthmann who lived through the efflorescence of hatred that destroyed her country along with much of the world has learned the wrong lessen, and has made a career of fostering the very distortions that contributed to such a calamity."
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01-02-2013, 03:37 PM
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Yes, I would take the word of the radical left wing Daily Kos over the first-person account of someone who was there. Thanks, Münchausenman.
Hey, we're out of Kool Aid. Do you know where we can get some?
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01-02-2013, 04:12 PM
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If she compares Obama to Hitler, Obama should fry the old bitch. Then you Henny Penny wonks would have something to bitch about. Until then STFU,please. Except for COG, his henny penny is kinda funny
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01-02-2013, 04:19 PM
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So you don't like free speech, either, do you, WTF? Figures.
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01-02-2013, 04:29 PM
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sure I do, let her say her piece and then fry her! but then you are to busy lying to get my point. nobody is frying the lying bitch and Obama is not Hitler. a point lost on you. have hatingkayla turn up your hearing aide
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01-02-2013, 08:21 PM
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Spin it how you want, Stevie. I'll take her words over some nut at the Daily Kos any day. BTW, she was there.
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She has been a shill for the right for the last 25 years.
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Yes, I would take the word of the radical left wing Daily Kos over the first-person account of someone who was there. Thanks, Münchausenman.
Hey, we're out of Kool Aid. Do you know where we can get some?
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The account of a 10 year old. Funny how she is the only person who remembers it just this way. If you think she is right about all her facts then you're wrong again. You didn't even read the post asshole. You're out of kool-aid because that is all you drink.
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So you don't like free speech, either, do you, WTF? Figures.
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What a fucking tool you are. How about a different view?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allison-kilkenny/nazibalooza_b_302671.html
Nazipalooza
As well as a recent baldfaced lie by the top douche-bag on this site.
Douche-bag says:
"What bill? The one that increases taxes without any spending cuts? Yeah. Great deal. Let's all rejoice.
It was a stage show for morons. You clowns bought into it."
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=635106&page=5
Don't you ever tire of being irrelevant and wrong?
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