P411

[GingerKatt]

Originally Posted by nadiastreasure

Surprised no one has started anything similar to P411. The gold standard indeed.

I know several people who have mentioned that they are thinking about this. But no idea if or when they will get a site up.

In the uncertain climate that Jan 1st is bringing, it's a real challenge to have this type of website, (ECCIE, Eros or the original P411).

Many people swear by EROS but I'm not sure what will happen to that in January either.

Twitter will always be up, and a lot of ladies are doing great there. I'm not sure if twitter is even aware of all of professional ladies on there. If so, they may crack down on it, as well as the nudity that I've seen many people post. No mention of $ is ever included of course.

Many ladies have built their own website where they can post any pics and list rates and services. They just have to put the site link on twitter once or twice a week.

A private instagram account works too, so I hear.

It's just really sad, I think, because without these sites, ladies safety may be in danger. We NEED to be able to exchange info on the bad and the good, clients. And guys need a BIO page with info a ladies likes and dislikes, and to read the reviews for location, menu and donation amount for different times. The hobby will continue without any info exchange sites, but will be more dangerous I think.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by GingerKatt

I know several people who have mentioned that they are thinking about this. But no idea if or when they will get a site up.

In the uncertain climate that Jan 1st is bringing, it's a real challenge to have this type of website, (ECCIE, Eros or the original P411).

Many people swear by EROS but I'm not sure what will happen to that in January either.

Twitter will always be up, and a lot of ladies are doing great there. I'm not sure if twitter is even aware of all of professional ladies on there. If so, they may crack down on it, as well as the nudity that I've seen many people post. No mention of $ is ever included of course.

Many ladies have built their own website where they can post any pics and list rates and services. They just have to put the site link on twitter once or twice a week.

A private instagram account works too, so I hear.

It's just really sad, I think, because without these sites, ladies safety may be in danger. We NEED to be able to exchange info on the bad and the good, clients. And guys need a BIO page with info a ladies likes and dislikes, and to read the reviews for location, menu and donation amount for different times. The hobby will continue without any info exchange sites, but will be more dangerous I think.

Everyone knows that before the voluntary shutdown of this site in April for a bit, the discretion of it being a whore review board was non existent. Due to the laws that were passed, it is obvious that Gina and her company (p411) want to fade off into the sunset. IMO, even after the somewhat neutering of Eccie to come back on line is not going be good enough to keep this site afloat for the long term.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/4/1...ternet-freedom

As you can see, before long, websites will be liable for the content posted by it's users, something the owner of this and any other adult board do not want the ramifications of.

Better get your affairs in order (stick with regulars) and if you depend soley or mostly on this site and any like it to do your ads and hobbying, the time is now to find other alternatives or like Gina, begin to contemplate retirement from the hobby all together.

[lisa.lisa0302]

I wouldn't put all my eggs...maybe just wondering in Twitter.

They tolerate sex workers, many of us are shadow banned.

Be prepared.

[JohnQ1769]

Why doesn't P411 move there hosting to another country, like Switzerland? That is the main reason I use protonmail b/c LE has NO jurisdiction and Switzerland protects individual privacy. The same with using NordVPN. Both are based in countries that protect privacy and I believe don't have liability laws.

Excerpt from ProtonMail:
ProtonMail is incorporated in Switzerland and all our servers are located in Switzerland. This means all user data is protected by strict Swiss privacy laws.

Excerpt from NordVPN:
Located in Panama (Safe VPN Jurisdiction)
"All top VPNs are located in independent countries that don’t share information on logging (Switzerland, Singapore, Caymans, British Virgin Islands and so on). NordVPN definitely hides this information well enough. And it’s good for their users, too."

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My .02

[JohnnyLucky69]

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Thanks for the kind words, but there are no plans to open to new member applicants (client or provider) at any time in the future. That could change, but as it stands we're just slowly moving towards retirement. No end date planned either.

Always,
Gina

😢😢😢😢😢

[cowboyesfan]

Originally Posted by JohnQ1769

Why doesn't P411 move there hosting to another country, like Switzerland? independent countries that don’t share information on logging (Switzerland, Singapore, Caymans, British Virgin Islands and so on).
My .02

Gina would also need to move to one of those countries ( assuming one of those has no extradition treaty with the US ).

[Lilneo]

This sucks. Glad I’m a member though and understand. Been a good ride. Hopefully Switter.at and privatedelights.ch continue to improve. I also hope eccie can stick around, but think privatedelights (non graphic) reviews will have to become the norm after January. Guess we will see.

[Hot Yvette]

Originally Posted by Lilneo

I also hope eccie can stick around, but think privatedelights (non graphic) reviews will have to become the norm after January. Guess we will see.

(Snip)

The owner of tnaboard.com sold his reveiw board to overseas buyers after he said in a post that he rejected good offers from some other very shady buyers who also live overseas.

[Guest083119]

So, is the shady owner site? http://privatedelights.ch

[Guest121018]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Can answer the question, but I can damn sure vouch for P411 and Gina. If the rest of the hobby world took care of their business with the dedication and professionalism she does, bitching on this board would decrease 95%. A real class act from way back to when she was a scheduler. One of THE most professional people I’ve ever dealt with in the business. Maybe THE most professional.

That has nothing to do with the OP's question. Sounds like you're the one bitching.

[Lilneo]

Originally Posted by B Three

So, is the shady owner site? http://privatedelights.ch

No idea who the owners are. They posted on Switter that they will remain anonymous, but the site is overseas.

[curious247]

Well that's not good since I became a lifetime member. Now what

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Thanks for the kind words, but there are no plans to open to new member applicants (client or provider) at any time in the future. That could change, but as it stands we're just slowly moving towards retirement. No end date planned either.

Always,
Gina

[rexdutchman]

I will stay with P 411 as long as I can ( get it up LOL)

[Exotic Yazmin DDD]

I am forever grateful for P411.

[8701]

Is there a way for those of us who are willing to help it continue to exist to contribute? I'm more than willing .