IN THE TEXAS VS. CALIFORNIA BATTLE, CALIFORNIA IS LOSING.......

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

In the 2009-10 school year, Texas spent $9,227 per student
sourced from The Dallas Morning News.
South Korea spends $6723 per student, and kicks our ass all over the place in test scores and other measures, according to FaceTheFacts.org.
Not only that, they send us some fine looking women - sourced from JL.

Notwithstanding our differences of opinion, I take back any names I called Yssup Rider.
Same with WTF and anyone else I offended.
I come in peace!!

Actually, the big cuts in school financing came in the current biennium.

Look for bigger cuts this session of the legislature. And a special (additional) session or two trying to unravel the mess the Leg has made of Texas public schools.

Texas public schools are pretty shitty, but they come by it naturally.

[Whirlaway]

Texas school are not "shitty" because of lack of funding...............

[Texas Contrarian]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Actually, the big cuts in school financing came in the current biennium.

Look for bigger cuts this session of the legislature. And a special (additional) session or two trying to unravel the mess the Leg has made of Texas public schools.

Texas public schools are pretty shitty, but they come by it naturally.

California's public schools are nothing to write home about, either -- despite the state's sky-high income tax rates.

http://www.economist.com/node/15819208

(Although that article is three years old, it offers a pretty concise rundown of the state's ongoing challenges.)

The California legislature has backed the state into a particularly painful corner, since it's so beholden to public-sector unions that have been looting the state's treasury for many years. About three-quarters of its members are in the unions' pockets.

[Whirlaway]

Worse than that, the boards that decide union benefits are controlled by the unions...the unions vote themselves their own pay raises and benefits package....

It is kinda like Obama voters voting in the politicans who will give them more free shit paid for by others !

It doesn't work in Calif and it won't work in nationally; our future is doomed if the left continues its path to Social utopia.

[Yssup Rider]

since when were we at war with California?

and Whirlyturd, why do you think Texas public schools are shitty?

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

since when were we at war with California?

We're not. But conflicting models of government are on display.

And it is worthwhile to take notice. One of the advantages of having a republican form of government is the states can be laboratories for different types of policies and we can see the results. Then state can modify their institutions accordingly.

[Yssup Rider]

The CA state government is horribly ineffective. But so is ours in Texas. but for different reasons.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Actually, the big cuts in school financing came in the current biennium.

Look for bigger cuts this session of the legislature. And a special (additional) session or two trying to unravel the mess the Leg has made of Texas public schools.

Texas public schools are pretty shitty, but they come by it naturally.

Per pupil expenditures appear to have little correlation to education outcomes.

Other nations spend less than we do and get much better results.

Even WITHIN the US, the result is often the same. Some of the worst performing school districts in the country have the highest per-pupil expenditures.

Even within the Plano school district, with schools that have identical or nearly identical per-student funding, there are wide disparities between schools located in predominantly minority neighborhoods ans schools in predominantly white neighborhoods.

The only real predictor of performance is parent involvement. Dysfunctional homes in black and Hispanic areas lead to poor student performance.

So what is the left-wing prescription for absentee parents? More school money? How will that help?

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The CA state government is horribly ineffective. But so is ours in Texas. but for different reasons.

And so we should give them more money? How will this help?

[Yssup Rider]

Who am I suggesting we give more money?

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Who am I suggesting we give more money?

I thought you were implying it in post #17 above.

If not, I apologize. I must have confused you with a typical liberal.

[Whirlaway]

Too many kids with a home life that start with 2 strikes against them........

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

since when were we at war with California?

and Whirlyturd, why do you think Texas public schools are shitty?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Per pupil expenditures appear to have little correlation to education outcomes.

Other nations spend less than we do and get much better results.

Even WITHIN the US, the result is often the same. Some of the worst performing school districts in the country have the highest per-pupil expenditures.

Even within the Plano school district, with schools that have identical or nearly identical per-student funding, there are wide disparities between schools located in predominantly minority neighborhoods ans schools in predominantly white neighborhoods.

The only real predictor of performance is parent involvement. Dysfunctional homes in black and Hispanic areas lead to poor student performance.

So what is the left-wing prescription for absentee parents? More school money? How will that help?

I'd like to the see performance comparisons between children with both a mother and a father in their home as opposed to the ones with just a mother. I'll bet the kids with two parents at home have substantially higher grades.

Illegitimacy is the driving force behind poverty, crime and underperforming schools.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I'd like to the see performance comparisons between children with both a mother and a father in their home as opposed to the ones with just a mother. I'll bet the kids with two parents at home have substantially higher grades.
They do.

Illegitimacy is the driving force behind poverty, crime and under-performing schools.
It is.

Pointing this out, however, will get you roundly condemned for being judgmental of other people's life choices.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Per pupil expenditures appear to have little correlation to education outcomes.

Other nations spend less than we do and get much better results.

Even WITHIN the US, the result is often the same. Some of the worst performing school districts in the country have the highest per-pupil expenditures.

Even within the Plano school district, with schools that have identical or nearly identical per-student funding, there are wide disparities between schools located in predominantly minority neighborhoods ans schools in predominantly white neighborhoods.

The only real predictor of performance is parent involvement. Dysfunctional homes in black and Hispanic areas lead to poor student performance.

So what is the left-wing prescription for absentee parents? More school money? How will that help?

You make great points about Plano schools. Mendenhall Elementary, in the poor east side of Plano, got a brand new school built, top of the line, and it still underperforms.
I ask my sons every day about their schoolwork, what happened in school, review their grades with them, help them study, I don't sell crack, I don't beat their mother, she feeds them breakfast, we go to boring PTA meetings, we go to parent teacher conferences, and my boys do well in school.
How does government spending hold a candle to loving, involved parents, even if one occasionally likes to fuck hookers? (me, not my wife, unfortunately)