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Old 11-21-2011, 09:58 PM   #16
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The income tax is not about revenue, it is about control.

Everything is about control....Free Market is about control. Big Business wants to control you. Unions want to control things. Government wants to control things.

That is nothing earth shattering. You wanna give control to the people but really that means big business.
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Clinton also had the benefit of the dot.com boom, and a Republican Congress that wasn't afraid to work with the President. The President also was not afraid to work with the Congress. Our current bunch of clowns, Obama included, are more interested in who to blame than working together. Although, as ridiculous as the President and Congress are, that may be a blessing.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:04 PM   #18
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Everything is about control....Free Market is about control. Big Business wants to control you. Unions want to control things. Government wants to control things.

That is nothing earth shattering. You wanna give control to the people but really that means big business.
Gee, it is so nice of you to explain to me what I mean. Idiot.

The Free Market is about information, transparency and freedom. Big business could not get so big if it didn't have government protection. Government started protecting business in the late 1800's with the railroads, and it has continued ever since. We haven't had a free market in such a long time, no one knows what it looks like. I say we try it, and if we don't like it, we can always demand that government re-corrupt the system.
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Good lord Marshall...can I blow you for some microeconomics tips? Just sayin.
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London, nice to have you drop in!

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Old 11-22-2011, 04:13 AM   #21
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Doove, I don't think you read your link. But that doesn't surprise me.
Oh, Genius? How so? I'm showing that tax revenues increased every year from 1960 on, except in '71, '83 (Reagan tax cut) and after Bush came into office (pretty much take your pick on which year).

Perhaps you can correct me.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:16 AM   #22
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Gee, it is so nice of you to explain to me what I mean. Idiot.
Somebody needs to explain reality vs talking points to you. If you think I am an idiot for doing so, so be it.



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The Free Market is about information, transparency and freedom. Big business could not get so big if it didn't have government protection. Government started protecting business in the late 1800's with the railroads, and it has continued ever since. We haven't had a free market in such a long time, no one knows what it looks like. I say we try it, and if we don't like it, we can always demand that government re-corrupt the system.
Big business runs government, period, think Citizens United. Big business is our government.

You are so cute and naive with your lack of understanding of human nature.

Talk about idiotic, you think government created big business!!!!!!!!!????? Unregulated markets create big business which then creates government to protect it. It is the nature of business to eat up your competition, to create less competition and therefore get bigger. The strong eat up the weak , that process, that human nature process creates less competition, not more. It consolidates power until you have what you have now.

You could take all the power of the Federal government away and all you would change is that the state government would be running your life and state governments are run by ....drum roll please....BIG BUSINESS.

Big Business is about who controls resources, always has been, always will be. You are living in a fantasy world. People in power will do everything in their power to stay there. Not only that but they want their children to stay in power.

So yes , your statement about taxes needed some explaining , if not for you, anyone that might believe that the world is somehow this fair and idyllic place with sugar plums for all. It is not...everything is about power.
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Try and get the tips upfront and save you the hassle of finding out the hard way that his tips are even smaller than his dick and about as useless.
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Good lord Marshall...can I blow you for some microeconomics tips? Just sayin.

Yes.

I was talking to one of the other ladies about you. She laughed at me and said you wouldn't see me because you and I were "genitally incompatible"......what did she mean?
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HA!....JEALOUSY IS SUCH AN UGLY EMOTION!...........


WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?.....YOU UPSET BECAUSE I REMIND YOU OF THE YOUNG, VIAGRA-FREE BUCK YOU CAUGHT FUCKING YOUR PAID GIRLFRIEND?!.................. .....HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:53 AM   #26
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HA!....JEALOUSY IS SUCH AN UGLY EMOTION!...........


WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?.....YOU UPSET BECAUSE I REMIND YOU OF THE YOUNG, VIAGRA-FREE BUCK YOU CAUGHT FUCKING YOUR PAID GIRLFRIEND?!.................. .....!
No, I was giving you an out to not continue talking about the Laffer Curve, something you have shown not to understand very well.

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Yes.

I was talking to one of the other ladies about you. She laughed at me and said you wouldn't see me because you and I were "genitally incompatible"......I found this distressing.....what did she mean?

There is no way your dick is bigger than your overinflated ego. She probably meant your cheap ass couldn't afford London!....or maybe you have a pussy down there. That would explain all the bravado!
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YOU STAND ALONE IN YOUR OPINION.......PERHAPS YOUR TIME WOULD BE BETTER SPENT IN THE DICTIONARY LOOKING UP THE WORDS "HAVE" AND "WILL"........

WHISKEY, DELTA, FOXTROT
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LOL, WTF! Like others before you, you have intentionally twisted the meaning of what I said, knocked it down, and congratulated yourself. And you think I'm living in a dream world? Never mind. Have fun.

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WDF SAYS: They are all paid for in one form or other. You get a little older and you will understand that.

WDF MUST HAVE MISSED THIS ARTICLE WHEN I POSTED IT......THIS MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE TO YOU OLDER GENTS........


The falling price of sex

Published: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 7:14 AM

By Star-Ledger Editorial BoardThe Star-Ledger

The bad news: Since the recession officially ended two years ago, household income has fallen 6.7 percent to $49,909, according to a study by Census Bureau officials.
The good news, at least for men: Sex is cheaper.
In other words, American men are getting more bang for their buck.
And we’re not talking about the price of goods on the professional sex market; we’re talking about personal relationships. Researchers say women are hopping into bed more quickly — and they’re not asking for a long-term commitment or a ring or an “I love you” first. Some aren’t even asking men to buy them a drink.
According to Kathleen Vohs of the University of Minnesota, the price of sex is “how much one party has to do in order to entice the other into being sexual.”
Vohs has targeted how costly sex has become for men, in particular, and she finds the price is plummeting.
In many cases, sex is free. Researchers found that 30 percent of young men’s sexual relationships involve no romance at all. No dating. No flowers. No movie. Not even a flirty text message.
Just “wham, bam ... what’s your name again?”
Besides, in a recession, it’s a low-cost distraction. (And she doesn’t even care if you have a job.)
Researchers say women have lost control of the nookie market. Partly to blame: the pill, the push for sexual equality and widespread access to porn — in high definition, no less.
And then there are the numbers: At colleges, where 57 percent of the students are women, some women are using sex in order to compete for a man’s affections.
Of course, that behavior works against women when they get out of school — because, by then, men are used to getting sex for nothing, or next to it. Women who keep their price high can’t seem to find men who will meet their demands.
Women aren’t likely to regain control of the market, because they’d all have to agree to say no to nookie at Walmart prices — or, in Republican terms, pass a tax increase on the sex creators.
That won’t happen, so cheap sex, like $3 gas, is here to stay. The free market has created its own stimulus program
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LOL, WTF! Like others before you, you have intentionally twisted the meaning of what I said, knocked it down, and congratulated yourself. And you think I'm living in a dream world? Never mind. Have fun.

I did not twist your words. All I said was that everything is done for the purpose of gaining power. That is just human nature. To think otherwise is what you would call a Tea Party! A silly silly tea party that is in principle no different than an OWS party
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