GOODBYE GOP.............

[Yssup Rider]

The Senate was voting on house budgets...created by which committees? Passed by whom? Lies and more lies...but facts be damned! You're about to get your ass handed to you again.

Lets see, if the deal gets done and the cliff is avoided, you won't be happy, right boys and Slunt?

[Whirlaway]

That is what is called the legislative process. The House sends legislation (in this case the budget) up to the Senate. The Senate can do several things....

Vote on the House budget.

Mend the House budget and put it to a vote.

Do nothing.

The Senate did NOTHING, except vote resoundingly NO to the Obama budgets !

Harry Reid knew that the House budgets would have been approved had they been given the vote.

FACT JACK !

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The Senate was voting on house budgets...created by which committees? Passed by whom? Lies and more lies...but facts be damned! You're about to get your ass handed to you again.

Lets see, if the deal gets done and the cliff is avoided, you won't be happy, right boys and Slunt?

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I am glad we agree that Obama's budgets were "voted down" because they were 100% bullshit !

Like I said, the House approved several budgets and all of them would have passed in the Senate had Reid let it come up for a vote. Even Democrats would have voted "yes" on the House budgets ! Reid knew it, so he denied the Senate a chance to vote.

the senate voted down Obies budget 99-0 after the house injected permanent tax cuts and deep SS cuts and sent it to them ... PERIOD.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

If this deal holds, then the GOP is headed to the dustbin.............they are useless. Their existence doesn't change the trajectory of American politics.

Tax increases in exchange for cuts in the growth of ramped-up spending over the next 10 years!

Boehner was out foxed by Obama. Obama increased his spending spree for this occasion just so he could "reduce" it to an amount that is actually above what it was before. Three years with no budget, but Boehner is foxed into negotiating "budget cuts."...........laughable !

The GOP is a joke of an opposition party.

A win for Obama and for the American people. A loss for extremists like the Pinhead here, who is still too stupid to understand why his candidate lost last month.

The GOP is here to stay. It's the Tea Party and the Libertarians who have overstayed their welcome and will be consigned to the dustbin of oddball political party history.

[Whirlaway]

If the Libertarian and Tea Party factions walk away from the GOP, those who remain under the GOP tent might as well join the Democratic Party. At that point there will be no serious divide between the 2 parties.

Makes no difference to me.

[markroxny]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

If the Libertarian and Tea Party factions walk away from the GOP,

Well they won't. Walk to where?

If they had any balls they'd form their own 3rd party, but they don't.

[Whirlaway]

Senate rejects Obama budget in 99-0 vote
By Erik Wasson and Daniel Strauss at The Hill (05/16/12 03:30 PM ET)



A budget resolution based on President Obama’s 2013 budget failed to get any votes in the Senate on Wednesday.

In a 99-0 vote, all of the senators present rejected the president’s blueprint.

It’s the second year in a row the Senate has voted down Obama’s budget.

Obama's 2012 budget failed 97 to 0 last May after Obama himself last April said he wanted deeper deficit cuts.
The House earlier this year unanimously rejected Obama's budget.

The White House sought to provide cover for Democrats to vote against the Obama budget resolution before the vote, arguing the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language.

Democrats made the same point on the floor Wednesday in explaining their votes.

The Senate also voted on four GOP budget blueprints, which were all defeated.

[Whirlaway]

To local and state elections....where they can make a difference. They will abandon the GOP at the national level...fund raising, manpower/volunteer, intellectually, on almost every level that the GOP national party relies.

That is where this is headed. Some may go to a 3rd party...but most will just give up on national agendas and look to local and state action !

It actually is a good and reasonable strategy.

Originally Posted by markroxny

Well they won't. Walk to where?

If they had any balls they'd form their own 3rd party, but they don't.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Senate rejects Obama budget in 99-0 vote
By Erik Wasson and Daniel Strauss at The Hill (05/16/12 03:30 PM ET)



A budget resolution based on President Obama’s 2013 budget failed to get any votes in the Senate on Wednesday.

In a 99-0 vote, all of the senators present rejected the president’s blueprint.

It’s the second year in a row the Senate has voted down Obama’s budget.

Obama's 2012 budget failed 97 to 0 last May after Obama himself last April said he wanted deeper deficit cuts.
The House earlier this year unanimously rejected Obama's budget.

The White House sought to provide cover for Democrats to vote against the Obama budget resolution before the vote, arguing the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama’s budget because it did not include policy report language.

Democrats made the same point on the floor Wednesday in explaining their votes.

The Senate also voted on four GOP budget blueprints, which were all defeated.

it went to the house FIRST where it was rewritten to suit the House .. just like EVERY budget PROPOSAL from a POTUS does..

lets review ...

a Dem prez sends a budget proposal to a republican house and they ok it spot on without a single change, and pass it on th the Dem senate ..

and youre that stupid whirl?


maybe you are

[markroxny]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

To local and state elections....where they can make a difference. They will abandon the GOP at the national level...fund raising, manpower/volunteer, intellectually, on almost every level that the GOP national party relies.

That is where this is headed. Some may go to a 3rd party...but most will just give up on national agendas and look to local and state action !

It actually is a good and reasonable strategy.

I still say the only thing that will finish the GOP forever is a 3rd party. Either the "Tea Party" or the "Conservative Party" But I see no balls from these groups to really separate from the GOP in any way that really counts.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

If this deal holds, then the GOP is headed to the dustbin.............they are useless. Their existence doesn't change the trajectory of American politics.

Tax increases in exchange for cuts in the growth of ramped-up spending over the next 10 years!

Boehner was out foxed by Obama. Obama increased his spending spree for this occasion just so he could "reduce" it to an amount that is actually above what it was before. Three years with no budget, but Boehner is foxed into negotiating "budget cuts."...........laughable !

The GOP is a joke of an opposition party.

GOODBYE AMERICA.....

The Republicans have been ineffective in stopping the advance of socialism and the inevitable destruction it always causes.

In the long run, if the majority of the people want to loot the treasury and have the government give them free stuff, sooner or later that's what is going to happen.

The Democrats have no intention of making significant spending cuts; that much is clear. The Republicans do not have the political ability to cut spending.

We've subsidized our runaway government spending with borrowed money for years. Now we are forced to print money to subsidize the deficit. This can't continue for more than another year or two before the economy collapses.

[markroxny]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

GOODBYE AMERICA.....

The Republicans have been ineffective in stopping the advance of socialism and the inevitable destruction it always causes.

In the long run, if the majority of the people want to loot the treasury and have the government give them free stuff, sooner or later that's what is going to happen.

The Democrats have no intention of making significant spending cuts; that much is clear. The Republicans do not have the political ability to cut spending.

We've subsidized our runaway government spending with borrowed money for years. Now we are forced to print money to subsidize the deficit. This can't continue for more than another year or two before the economy collapses.

So where you gonna move to Joe?

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by markroxny

I still say the only thing that will finish the GOP forever is a 3rd party. Either the "Tea Party" or the "Conservative Party" But I see no balls from these groups to really separate from the GOP in any way that really counts.

the tea party couldnt beat Reid, when a road kill could have


Of the 60 members of the Tea Party Caucus, 46 have already clinched victory. Four others, including Bachmann and West, remain in races too close to call. Six Tea Party caucus members were defeated at the polls, plus another seven who retired, lost a primary or sought higher office. Both tea party candidates who ran for the Senate, Reps. Denny Rehberg of Montana and Todd Akin of Missouri lost, while Rep. Mike Pence won his bid for governor of Indiana

[Whirlaway]

I agree JB; the only question that remains (in my mind) is how tough will our creditors be in the collection process against us.

The very wealthy will feel no pain. The poor will coast along poor, their pain and suffering will not be that great - nothing much more to squeeze out of them. The middle class are going to get slammed hard !

Originally Posted by joe bloe

GOODBYE AMERICA.....

The Republicans have been ineffective in stopping the advance of socialism and the inevitable destruction it always causes.

In the long run, if the majority of the people want to loot the treasury and have the government give them free stuff, sooner or later that's what is going to happen.

The Democrats have no intention of making significant spending cuts; that much is clear. The Republicans do not have the political ability to cut spending.

We've subsidized our runaway government spending with borrowed money for years. Now we are forced to print money to subsidize the deficit. This can't continue for more than another year or two before the economy collapses.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

You two fatuous twits, Trendaway and COsFb, still don't get it, do you? The GOP's demise is directly related to the reactionary agenda of the Teawipe Party Parrotriot and Libertoony dry rot from within. How can you expect the intellectually bankrupt to effectively combat with those who are more skillfull, not to mention smarter?

And, since you may not have noticed - well, you did but merely refuse to acknowledge it - there was an election in which ALL of the Teawipes got their tea wiped.

Or another way to look at it is that the Republicans have continually over the last 25 years or so attacked the largest demographic of voters in the United States: women.

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

To the barricades, boys!!! That would be old, fat WHITE boys (using the term loosely). "Defend" your imaginary "freedoms" against your imaginary "enemies."

If you think what's gotten the Republican party on the ropes is men, well, you think just like the Republicans.

I agree WW, the Republican party is self-destructing for faded memories of a by-gone era. The Democrats are headed that way too for visions of that they think is "right" that are contrarily to mainstream American values and ideals.