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10-30-2012, 05:04 PM
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They could if the federal government quit confiscating as much money as they do to line their own pockets and those of their big corporate friends.
Did you see what the Big Benevolent federal government is up to now?
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=589230
Yeah. This is how your government works. I'll bet you're proud.
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10-30-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Actually, Dr. Paul is right. There is no basis in the Constitution which provides for taking money from me to give to disaster victims in New York. Disaster relief should be local.
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Several hundred years of constitutional jurisprudence says you're wrong. Which means, in terms of constitutional jurisprudence, you're wrong. Isn't that the way the Constitution works? That whole SCOTUS thing? You can whine about it as much as you like but, the Constitution means what the SCOTUS decides it means.
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10-30-2012, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Actually, Dr. Paul is right. There is no basis in the Constitution which provides for taking money from me to give to disaster victims in New York. Disaster relief should be local.
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What an interesting attitude. That is not the attitude that made America great. This nation became great because it concerned itself about the greater good. Something you do not seem to care about.
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10-30-2012, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Actually, Dr. Paul is right. There is no basis in the Constitution which provides for taking money from me to give to disaster victims in New York. Disaster relief should be local.
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yeah lets get rid of federal government. we can easily make everything a local problem.
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10-30-2012, 08:28 PM
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Something you do not seem to care about.
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Shhh, don't tell anybody but he only cares about being a StupidOldFart!
And he's doing a damn good job of it.
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10-30-2012, 08:55 PM
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It's called passing the buck. And if you live underground, the buck stops elsewhere. Right Unaliar?
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10-30-2012, 09:13 PM
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What an interesting attitude. That is not the attitude that made America great. This nation became great because it concerned itself about the greater good. Something you do not seem to care about.
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Dependence on government made America great? Don't think so. Individual freedom and the recognition of rights to be protected from government is what made us great. Sorry, BigLoser.
And Timmy, how many hundreds of years of jurisprudence are there that says government can do anything? Just curious. You said "several hundred". Does that mean, say, three or four hundred years? Just how many?
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10-30-2012, 09:33 PM
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COG should get a superhero cape. Obitchass killing dude...fuck crybabies...
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10-30-2012, 09:38 PM
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...fuckers...
LMAO @ IFFY!
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10-30-2012, 09:48 PM
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The former director of FEMA, Michael Brown, actually criticized the president for reacting too quickly. This from the person in charge who totally screwed up the assistance following Katrina.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...202803013.html
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10-30-2012, 10:46 PM
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Actually, Dr. Paul is right. There is no basis in the Constitution which provides for taking money from me to give to disaster victims in New York. Disaster relief should be local.
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God, COF you are one of the dumbest fuckers who's ever posted here!
Your ilk hoists the "Don't Tread on Me" flag but then preaches against that unification of effort to achieve an economy of scale that is impossible on the state level. Lessee, when the tunnels from NJ to The City fill up with storm water, do the states stop at the halfway point and hope the water doesn't fill the void if one state's pumps are faster than the other's?
You are a MORON!
You are a stupid version of Mittens, lying your way through life and making foolish statements while worshiping a loser (Paul) who runs for office mainly to employ his family in campaign positions every two years for the House and every four years for the Presidency.
Paul is often called the House's most successful model for nepotism.
What a morally inept figure he is. He takes donations from people and strings them along when he knows he will NEVER be elected. He does it just to give his family jobs!
Get a job, COF!
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10-30-2012, 11:00 PM
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Gov. Christie praises Obama’s response to ‘major disaster’ of Hurricane Sandy
Drew Katchen
1:05 pm on 10/30/2012
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie declared the devastation from Superstorm Sandy in his state to be a “major disaster” and “devastation,” but he also stated that working with President Obama on securing resources for the state has been “great.”
Gov. Christie told Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski Tuesday on Morning Joe that roughly 2.4 million households in the state were without power, roughly a million more power outages than the state experienced during Hurricane Irene.
Christie expected the devastation along the state’s coastline, commonly called the Jersey Shore, to be “the worst we’ve ever seen.” He also said he asked the president to expedite what is known as a Major Disaster Declaration for the state, which will allow federal aid dollars to reach New Jersey faster. The governor praised Obama’s quick reaction to the storm.
“The president has been all over this, and he deserves great credit,” Christie said. “He gave me his number at the White House and told me to call him if I needed anything, and he absolutely means it. It’s been very good working with the president and his administration. It’s been wonderful.”
President Obama and the governor spoke three times on Monday, Christie stated.
“He asked me what I needed. I said if he could expedite the Major Disaster Declaration without all the normal FEMA mumbo-jumbo. He got right on it,” added Christie. “I got a call from FEMA at 2 a.m…and then this morning I understand he signed the Major Disaster Declaration for New Jersey.”
As a surrogate for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention, Christie has been a vocal and frequent critic of the president. He’s used previous Morning Joe appearances to praise Gov. Romney’s performance at the presidential debates. He was once considered to be in the running for Romney’s vice presidential pick.
Gov. Christie also noted New Jersey has received aid in the form of 25 ambulances from GOP Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, and GOP Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin has also “offered up resources we’ve been able to use.”
Christie stated that those willing to donate in the form of money can donate to both the Red Cross or the Salvation Army, and able-bodied citizens of New Jersey who are willing to help can call: 1-800-Jersey7 to find out about volunteer opportunities.
This is called LEADERSHIP. It's still raining folks, but POTUS has Jersey's back.
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Still trying to polish a turd ah. Well thats good. But that's his job. It took him three to figure out what his job description is. It's about fucking time.
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10-30-2012, 11:06 PM
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You're gonna lose to that turd in seven days.
book IT homo!
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10-30-2012, 11:53 PM
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Stevie don't get into something you don't understand.
COG is right whether you like it not. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows the federal government to take money from someone to help someone else. The bad part is that is what they do all the time under the "general welfare" clause. Go back to 1803 when Congressman James Madison was asked to vote on a bill that would take federal money and give it to essentialy homeless veterans of the Revolution. Madison, who wrote the Constitution, called it a noble cause but could find nothing in the Constitution that would allow them to do it.
As for people coming together, do you see how much money has been donated already voluntarily? That is how it works and it is within the keeping of conservatism theory. We do what government is supposed to stay out of.
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10-31-2012, 12:19 AM
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Stevie, in addition to drinking way too much caffeine, thinks that everyone is as selfish as he is. Therefore, government has to be the answer, because he can't be bothered to assist his fellow human voluntarily.
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