No Time To Die - Goodbye, Mr Bond

[bambino]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

he's not gay he just played Bond that way.


the worst Bond not named Roger Moore.


BAHHAAAA

Pierce Bronson was worse than Moore.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...07851.html?amp

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by bambino

Pierce Bronson was worse than Moore.

you could make a case for that but i'll stick with Moore for worst ever.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by bambino

Sean Connery was da man. I lost interest after Roger Moore.

I lost interest at the first Moore movie and it took Brosnan to get me back. I will admit that Bronson had weak scripts though.
Still, none compare to Connery.
That said, my dvd collection only contains Connery and Craig.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

well whatever happens Craig is out. he had a good run as Bond. there might not be a new Bond depending on how they play this "diversity" shit.


we'd know by now if not for the scamdemic .. the release was pushed back till fall.





Connery is the MAN! Roger Moore sucked as Bond. he could have been the first Bond but he was under contract for "The Saint" and the risk of getting tied up in court was too much so they dropped Moore from consideration. i get it that Moore didn't want to play the role the same as Connery but the result was terrible. Moore was too glib as Bond.


one thing i will say in Moore's defense is that it wasn't his fault that most of the best novels had already been made into movies and the writers starting pulling shit outta their asses with terrible scripts and a bunch of overdone gadgets. but he still played Bond like a pussy!


according to Bond history the original Bond would have been Cary Grant. Grant was obviously a big star already (as was David Niven who was also considered) but Grant wouldn't agree to a multi-film contract and he was probably too old for a long term Bond anyway.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._No_(film)#Cast

Casting

James Bond

While producers Broccoli and Saltzman originally sought Cary Grant for the role, they discarded the idea as Grant would be committed to only one feature film, and the producers decided to go after someone who could be part of a series.[6] Richard Johnson has claimed to have been the first choice of the director, but he turned it down because he already had a contract with MGM and was intending to leave.[23] Another actor purported to have been considered for the role was Patrick McGoohan on the strength of his portrayal of spy John Drake in the television series Danger Man: McGoohan turned down the role.[24] Another potential Bond included David Niven, who played the character in the 1967 parody Casino Royale.[25]



There are several apocryphal stories as to whom Ian Fleming personally wanted. Reportedly, Fleming favoured actor Richard Todd.[26] In his autobiography When the Snow Melts, Cubby Broccoli said Roger Moore had been considered, but had been thought "too young, perhaps a shade too pretty."[27] In his autobiography, My Word Is My Bond, Moore says he was never approached to play the role of Bond until 1973, for Live and Let Die.[28] Moore appeared as Simon Templar on the television series The Saint, airing in the United Kingdom for the first time on 4 October 1962, only one day before the premiere of Dr. No.[29]

Cubby says they considered Moore, Moore says otherwise. just because Moore wasn't formally offered doesn't mean he wasn't considered.


also .. before Lanzenby's one-and-done an AMERICAN actor was offered the role .... this guy.








Clint Eastwood! Clint was offered the role to replace Connery and declined saying that first he didn't want to follow Connery in the role and that he felt it should be played by a British actor. according to Eastwood he was offered in 1967 and declined opening the door for Lazenby.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Superman.html


Why I turned down offers to play James Bond AND Superman, by Clint Eastwood


yes .. you read that right, he turned down BOND and Superman. probably for the better too. Clint doesn't have the classic Superman look even if he's certainly tall enough to sell the role at 6'4" (well .. in his prime anyway) and in fact his height could have been a negative for BOND. too tall! unless you film Clint standing next to Jaws in every scene! BAHAAA



Ultimately, the producers turned to 32 year-old Sean Connery for five films.[6] It is often reported that Connery won the role through a contest set up to "find James Bond". While this is untrue, the contest itself did exist, and six finalists were chosen and screen-tested by Broccoli, Saltzman, and Fleming. The winner of the contest was a 28-year-old model named Peter Anthony, who, according to Broccoli, had a Gregory Peck quality, but proved unable to cope with the role.[30] When Connery was invited to meet Broccoli and Saltzman he appeared scruffy and in unpressed clothes, but Connery "put on an act and it paid off" as he acted in the meeting with a macho, devil-may-care attitude.[31] When he left both Saltzman and Broccoli watched him through the window as he went to his car, both agreeing that he was the right man for Bond.[32] After Connery was chosen, Terence Young took the actor to his tailor and hairdresser,[33] and introduced him to the high life, restaurants, casinos and women of London. In the words of Bond writer Raymond Benson, Young educated the actor "in the ways of being dapper, witty, and above all, cool".[34]

Good post Waco. As for Eastwood being too tall, he is only one inch taller than Connery. Isn't Connery 6'3"? I thought Eastwood turned it down because he felt he would not be able to get the British accent right. Eastwood was a great "Inspector Harry Callahan" in the Dirty Harry movies.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

I lost interest at the first Moore movie and it took Brosnan to get me back. I will admit that Bronson had weak scripts though.
Still, none compare to Connery.
That said, my dvd collection only contains Connery and Craig.

I would agree that Connery and Craig are the two best. I have seen them all. The only DVD's that I don't have are the ones played by Lazenby and Niven. I agree with Waco that the scripts for Moore were weaker in general. I thought "A view to a Kill" was Moore's best bond movie and had the best them song of any movie not made by Connery.

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton
4. Brosnan
5. Moore
6. Lazenby
7. Niven

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Good post Waco. As for Eastwood being too tall, he is only one inch taller than Connery. Isn't Connery 6'3"? I thought Eastwood turned it down because he felt he would not be able to get the British accent right. Eastwood was a great "Inspector Harry Callahan" in the Dirty Harry movies.

Connery is listed at 6'2". Connery had a background in bodybuilding and his nickname was "Big Tam".

looks fit enough for a badass secret agent ...





Connery is the one in the middle, the tallest.





Connery trying to be Steve Reeves or Arnie. lol




and yes part of why Eastwood turned down Bond is he knew he couldn't pull off a passable Brit accent, and since he felt it should be a brit role he declined.

[dilbert firestorm]

connery, body builder? cool. he must've been in a different weight class.


his muscles weren't all that beefy like arnie or lou faringo. who's steve reeves?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

connery, body builder? cool. he must've been in a different weight class.


his muscles weren't all that beefy like arnie or lou faringo. who's steve reeves?

that was an era before 'roids .. this is what fit guys look like without the drugs. lol.


this is Steve Reeves .. Hercules





















Reeves was a pioneer in proper diet for bodybuilding. he ate like a horse .. but a healthy one ...




https://physicalculturestudy.com/201...petition-diet/

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

that was an era before 'roids .. this is what fit guys look like without the drugs. lol.

this is Steve Reeves .. Hercules





Reeves was a pioneer in proper diet for bodybuilding. he ate like a horse .. but a healthy one ...

https://physicalculturestudy.com/201...petition-diet/

oh that steve reeves, I saw his Hercules movies in the 1970s or early 80's when a local network showed horror/sci fi/fantasy movies on sunday morning on tv. (he only did 2 of 'em) didn't know who he was tho.

Film making in Europe was a little different from working in the United States. There's a scene in 'Hercules' where I'm in chains -- they looked like steel, but they were actually made of wood -- and I had to swing these chains at my supposed enemies who were advancing towards me. Well, I didn't want to really strike someone so I kind of held back with my motions. The director yelled, 'Swing those chains! Swing them hard!' I said, 'I don't want to hurt someone.' And the director yelled back, 'If they don't get hurt, they don't get paid!'
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0716302/...k_qt_sm#quotes

apparently he was in a sequel to spartacus as spartacus' son

he was also offered for the james bond role in Dr. No.

looks like he did a bunch of antiquity movies for italian directors which apparently went out of style by 1970 which led to his retirement. his last movie was in 1968.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

oh that steve reeves, I saw his Hercules movies in the 1970s or early 80's when a local network showed horror/sci fi/fantasy movies on sunday morning on tv. (he only did 2 of 'em) didn't know who he was tho.

Film making in Europe was a little different from working in the United States. There's a scene in 'Hercules' where I'm in chains -- they looked like steel, but they were actually made of wood -- and I had to swing these chains at my supposed enemies who were advancing towards me. Well, I didn't want to really strike someone so I kind of held back with my motions. The director yelled, 'Swing those chains! Swing them hard!' I said, 'I don't want to hurt someone.' And the director yelled back, 'If they don't get hurt, they don't get paid!'
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0716302/...k_qt_sm#quotes

apparently he was in a sequel to spartacus as spartacus' son

he was also offered for the james bond role in Dr. No.

looks like he did a bunch of antiquity movies for italian directors which apparently went out of style by 1970 which led to his retirement. his last movie was in 1968.

so he was ..



Reeves turned down the roles of James Bond in Dr. No (1962) and the Man With No Name in A Fistful of Dollars (1964).


too muscular for Bond and not a Brit and too muscular and not tall enough for the Man with no name

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so he was ..

Reeves turned down the roles of James Bond in Dr. No (1962) and the Man With No Name in A Fistful of Dollars (1964).

too muscular for Bond and not a Brit and too muscular and not tall enough for the Man with no name

he was considered for the Doc Savage movie role which went to Ron Ely of Tarzan. I think he would have been better than Ron Ely.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

that was an era before 'roids .. this is what fit guys look like without the drugs. lol.


this is Steve Reeves .. Hercules



Reeves was a pioneer in proper diet for bodybuilding. he ate like a horse .. but a healthy one ...




https://physicalculturestudy.com/201...petition-diet/

Looks like a good diet except for the orange juice freshly squeezed and though he undoubtedly needed the carbs to fuel his workouts modern theory would have him eat the orange and not squeeze it.

Very active guys burn lots of calories but calorie densities that are too high in simple carbs are not the best use of food for fuel.

[oeb11]

A black female cannot be "James, James Bond" - regardless of the "woke" protests.

Ultimately - whether or not it sells will determine what happens to a female 007.

If producers cannot sell it - it won't happen.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by oeb11

A black female cannot be "James, James Bond" - regardless of the "woke" protests.

Ultimately - whether or not it sells will determine what happens to a female 007.

If producers cannot sell it - it won't happen.

They may go for it since nothing else will be acceptable to the mob - but they could also just end the series. It lasted longer than virtually anything else so why not go out on a good note?

[oeb11]

Bond, Jane Bond - on a streaming porn channel near you soon!