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Old 10-22-2012, 10:49 PM   #16
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Anything since the parties actually switched roles and philosophies? Now, you Teapublicans are trying to intimidate black voters.
Show me one example of this. There is a highly public example of the opposite occurring in the 08 elections.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:53 PM   #17
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More dribbling bullshit-blather from the pile of bullshit AKA Assup!
Seeker was obviously confuse. It's left movements that have never helped the people.

Russian Civil War (1917-22): 9,000,000

Soviet Union: 61,911,000 democides in the USSR 1917-87, of which 51,755,000 occurred during the Stalin years. This divides up into:
■Russian Civil War (1917-22)
■War: 1,410,000 (includes 500,000 civilian)
■Famine: 5,000,000 (50% democidal)
■Other democide: 784,000
■Epidemics: 2,300,000
■Total: 9,494,000
■1923-29: 2,200,000 (plus 1M non-democidal famine deaths)
■1929-39: 15,785,000 (plus 2M non-democidal famine)
■1939-45: 18,157,000
■1946-54: 15,613,000 (plus 333,000 non-democidal famine)
■TOTAL: 51,755,000 democides and 3,333,000 non-demo. famine

WWII European War (military) Dead (1939-45): 28,736,000
■War-related (additional) Democides
■Stalin: 13,053,000

Chinese Civil War (1945-49) Estimate:
■War Dead: 1,201,000
■Democide by Guomindang: 2,645,000
■Democide by Communists: 2,323,000
■Famine: 25,000
■TOTAL: 6,194,000

People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s regime (1949-1975) Estimate:
■Democide: 34,361,000 (1949-75)
■The principle episodes being…
■All movements (1949-58): 11,813,000
■incl. Land Reform (1949-53): 4,500,000
■Cult. Rev. (1964-75): 1,613,000
■Forced Labor (1949-75): 15,000,000
■Great Leap Forward (1959-63): 5,680,000 democides
■War: 3,399,000
■Famine: 34,500,000
■Great Leap Forward: 27M famine deaths
■TOTAL: 72,260,000

North Korea (1948-now) 4,600,000 (not including the Korean War)

Under Pol Pot, the Khmer Rouge imposed an extreme form of social engineering on Cambodian society — a radical form of agrarian communism where the whole population had to work in collective farms or forced labor projects. In terms of the number of people killed as a proportion of the population (almost 2 million killed out of an estimated 7.1 million people), it was the most lethal regime of the 20th century. (Plus an estimated, additional 35,000 foreign democides)

•Estimates based on books by Rummel

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Old 10-22-2012, 10:58 PM   #18
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Solidarity in Poland? The Contra rebels in Nicaragua? The fall of the Berlin wall? The revolt against communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union?
That was neo conservatives that used Liberal dogma.

Nation building is a liberal Philosophy you nitwit.

I thought you were a Libertarian. The true Conservative/Libertarian do not stick their nose in other countries business. You should have your card revoked, you phony.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:02 PM   #19
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WDF, your ignorance is staggering. Who said anything about nation building?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:15 PM   #20
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WDF, your ignorance is staggering. Who said anything about nation building?
Can't you read? Nation building is an off shoot of sticking our nose in other nations business. Everything you listed consisted of us sticking our nose in other nations business. You are a phony.

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:24 PM   #21
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He's a fraud.

And IBCrying is still crying.

WAAAAHHHHH! WAAHHH! WAHHHH!

BTW -- another dubious reference to an obvious lie. You have no character. How'd you ever get a slut for money to not call 911?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:33 PM   #22
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This just proves my point. Liberals will take the stupidest stands. We used no troops or weapons to bring down the Berlin Wall, yet that has become "nation building". And I'm a phony for freedom coming to Eastern Europe.

BTW, the question wasn't "what right wing movements would you have approved of" it was simply "what right wing movements have helped people". You people are idiots.

And WDF, you are as ignorant about Libertarianism as you are on most subjects. You make stuff up, then knock it down, and think you're smart. Very entertaining!

You people amaze me. Where else can a person get this kind of entertainment for free? Seriously, you ignoramuses are funnier than anything.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:50 PM   #23
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They do wings right, always helps me. ha ha ha

Lets see what about any left wing ones, OH, what about the
KKK, that was a democratic party movement wasn't it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:28 AM   #24
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More dribbling bullshit-blather from the pile of bullshit AKA Assup!
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Wow, a right wing movement; interesting way of putting things.
The way I view this is movements are the attempts to push something off the intended path in order to change the status quo. Movements are the method of the left wing to do what our founding fathers feared the most, that the people would be inclined to vote themselves largess from the treasury until the nation collapses. This is e3vident in all of the left wing raiding of the treasury to "help" the people become dependent upon the government.

The right wing movement has been to do what they can to stop it for the good of all the nation rather than a few.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:57 AM   #26
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let's see..to answer the question it is just about anywhere that freedom and liberty for man was sought or was the result..a short list:

1. runnymede
2. the protestant reformation
3. the american revolution
X 4. no not the french revolution that was left wing filled with murder and hate that fed on itself
5. the english and american abolitionist movements
X 6. no not the bolsheviks that was left
X 7. no not nazism..so far left it met the far end of the right
X 8. no not red china..left
X 9. North Korea? nope left
X 10. Cuba...nope left
X 11. no not pol pot..left
12. The Polish Solidarity Movement, Lech Walesa
13. tiananemen square
X 14. the continuation of islamic extremism..see numbers 4 and 7
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:05 AM   #27
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This just proves my point. Liberals will take the stupidest stands. We used no troops or weapons to bring down the Berlin Wall, yet that has become "nation building". And I'm a phony for freedom coming to Eastern Europe.

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We used the economic weapon of spending like drunken sailors. Reagan doubled our nations debt, mostly by military spending. Russia , once the price of oil clasped could not keep up, their invasion of Afghanistan was crippling. Now we are the country paying the huge price to try and keep up this massive military.

So in closing COFool, you do not have to go to war nor fire a shot to ruin your country through bad economic decision. Even ones that might appear good at the time. All Reagan taught us was to throw money at a problem. Look how indebted we are now with that Liberal philosophy. That you do not understand basic Conservative/ Libertarian teachings is troubling. I suggest reading Pat Buchanan to understand what a true Conservative is. Ron Paul if you want to understand Libertarian teachings.

You seem to know neither.
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let's see..to answer the question it is just about anywhere that freedom and liberty of man was sought or was the result..a short list:
You are a cheerleading fool if you think any movement is not about power and control. It may not start out that way but that is the way they all end.

Take your Fairy Tale to the masses who are buying Fairy Tale Dust.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:13 AM   #29
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You are a cheerleading fool if you think any movement is not about power and control. It may not start out that way but that is the way they all end.

Take your Fairy Tale to the masses who are buying Fairy Tale Dust.
being attacked by the likes of you informs me that im on the right track..thanks
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Solidarity in Poland? The Contra rebels in Nicaragua? The fall of the Berlin wall? The revolt against communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union?
Nothing to do with the past or current political philosophy of the conservatives or repukes. To the contrary.
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