Pelosi and Cuomo Sign Gun Confiscation Bill into New York State Law

[SpeedRacerXXX]

When there are tragedies in which a gun is used, gun rights advocates say don't blame the gun, blame the person carrying the gun. When a state does its best to keep a gun out of the hands of someone who is deemed to be mentally unstable and might use that gun to kill someone, it is a violation of his 2nd Amendment rights.


"The law allows that “family members, school administrators, and law enforcement officials can seek to get guns confiscated from people deemed by courts to be an ‘extreme risk’ to themselves or others.”

"If initially approved by a judge, the individual would be banned from buying, possessing or attempting to buy firearms for up to six days. During that time, a hearing would have to be held on extending the length of the order up to one year."


Yes, the new law is judgmental and subjective. But I would rather see error on the safe side.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bb1961

That is ALREADY law...you are a typical left wing bot!!
47 states can put a mental hold on ANYONE at ANYTIME NOW...you don't know your stuff!!
http://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.e...ental-illness/

So if it's already law in 47 states, why are you whining about it?

And stop the stupid name calling, bb1961.

Nobody can take you seriously when you do that.

Unless, of course, you are incapable.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

When there are tragedies in which a gun is used, gun rights advocates say don't blame the gun, blame the person carrying the gun. When a state does its best to keep a gun out of the hands of someone who is deemed to be mentally unstable and might use that gun to kill someone, it is a violation of his 2nd Amendment rights.


"The law allows that “family members, school administrators, and law enforcement officials can seek to get guns confiscated from people deemed by courts to be an ‘extreme risk’ to themselves or others.”

"If initially approved by a judge, the individual would be banned from buying, possessing or attempting to buy firearms for up to six days. During that time, a hearing would have to be held on extending the length of the order up to one year."


Yes, the new law is judgmental and subjective. But I would rather see error on the safe side.

+1

Well put.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So if it's already law in 47 states, why are you whining about it?

And stop the stupid name calling, bb1961.

Nobody can take you seriously when you do that.

Unless, of course, you are incapable.

Where is the name calling...seems like you're incapable of rational thought.
I'm calling out the left on passing redundant laws that people like you swoon over...research is your friend!!
The left loves lemmings...they have said so many times!!
When you become enlightened...you become Conservative

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

When there are tragedies in which a gun is used, gun rights advocates say don't blame the gun, blame the person carrying the gun. When a state does its best to keep a gun out of the hands of someone who is deemed to be mentally unstable and might use that gun to kill someone, it is a violation of his 2nd Amendment rights.


"The law allows that “family members, school administrators, and law enforcement officials can seek to get guns confiscated from people deemed by courts to be an ‘extreme risk’ to themselves or others.”

"If initially approved by a judge, the individual would be banned from buying, possessing or attempting to buy firearms for up to six days. During that time, a hearing would have to be held on extending the length of the order up to one year."


Yes, the new law is judgmental and subjective. But I would rather see error on the safe side.

Where does over reach end??
You know the law is judgmental and subjective...and you see nothing wrong with that...tell criminals to turn in guns and stop committing crimes...problem solved...but there are already laws on the books for that...how's that working for ya??
Again redundant legislation...the left is the party of feel good!!

[winn dixie]

We should take away pussolinni's bourbon for good of the Country and see how she likes that! fuckin rotten crotch stank cunt face drunk.....

[Lantern2814]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So if it's already law in 47 states, why are you whining about it?

And stop the stupid name calling, bb1961.

Nobody can take you seriously when you do that.

Unless, of course, you are incapable.

Take your own advice. So you're okay with a government bureaucrat deciding if you are mentally capable or not. We know why you'd be afraid of that.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Where does over reach end??
You know the law is judgmental and subjective...and you see nothing wrong with that...tell criminals to turn in guns and stop committing crimes...problem solved...but there are already laws on the books for that...how's that working for ya??
Again redundant legislation...the left is the party of feel good!!

I will never see anything wrong with trying to cut down gun violence. Redundant legislation? Do you think there is a law on the books in NY like the one just passed? What does this have to do with criminals turning in their guns? Please stay focused.

Or do you have a problem with people with mental problems who may potentially use their legal weapons to kill someone being stopped?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Take your own advice. So you're okay with a government bureaucrat deciding if you are mentally capable or not. We know why you'd be afraid of that.

To repeat, a gun cannot kill. A person with a gun can kill. Some who use a gun to kill might be stopped if individuals -- police, district attorneys, family or household members, or school administrators or their designees -- could petition a court to keep that individual from purchasing or possessing a firearm. Then a court decides if the petition is valid. Upside -- a few lives might be saved. Downside -- an individual would be without his/her gun for usually a short period of time.

True story. A family member was a teacher who taught problem children in HS. She taught one student who she thought would be very dangerous at some point. No action taken. Student killed his father.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Can’t read the story for all the pop ups on this “news site.”

The story really doesn’t explain the law, or why Pelosi was signing it.

Until you provide a little clarity, TDL, I’ve gotta call BULLSHIT.

what's yer boggle, poster?


no pop ups here. why don't you retry the link over and over again until it works?

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I will never see anything wrong with trying to cut down gun violence. Redundant legislation? Do you think there is a law on the books in NY like the one just passed? What does this have to do with criminals turning in their guns? Please stay focused.

Or do you have a problem with people with mental problems who may potentially use their legal weapons to kill someone being stopped?

NY is one of the 47 states with laws ALREADY on the books with a mental health warrant hold...do a little research next time before you comment...I have already posted a link to that law...research is your friend!!
Put your brain in gear before you put you mouth in gear...the left is always symbolism over substance...redundant LIKE I SAID!!
I know this because I have seen plenty of documentary's on mental health and law enforcement in the judical system...you make it seem so simplistic...it isn't!!
There are so many variables involved in this.
I love the "gun free zones"...when crimes happen there the left wing loons scratch their heads and wonder...how could that have happend in a gun free zone...IT WAS A LAW...Hummmm
The law of unintended consequences...this is feel good shit from the left!!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bb1961

NY is one of the 47 states with laws ALREADY on the books with a mental health warrant hold...do a little research next time before you comment...I have already posted a link to that law...research is your friend!!
Put your brain in gear before you put you mouth in gear...the left is always symbolism over substance...redundant LIKE I SAID!!
I know this because I have seen plenty of documentary's on mental health and law enforcement in the judical system...you make it seem so simplistic...it isn't!!
There are so many variables involved in this.
I love the "gun free zones"...when crimes happen there the left wing loons scratch their heads and wonder...how could that have happend in a gun free zone...IT WAS A LAW...Hummmm
The law of unintended consequences...this is feel good shit from the left!!

I assume this is the link you are talking about:

http://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.e...ental-illness/

I read it and at no time is the word "gun", or any similar word, mentioned. The intent of the law already in affect is:

"These laws give law enforcement officers and others the right to involuntarily admit someone into a mental health care facility if they are in danger of harming themselves or others because of a mental illness."

The new NY law relates SPECIFICALLY to guns:

"The law allows that “family members, school administrators, and law enforcement officials can seek to get guns confiscated from people deemed by courts to be an ‘extreme risk’ to themselves or others.”

Research may be my friend. Understanding the difference between the 2 laws is your friend. You may disagree with the new NY bill but the purpose of the new bill is very different than the current law.

[bb1961]

Yeah right...I see the left has officially indoctrinated you.
I guess by your logic the law should specify...hurt others with...knifes,ice-picks,chains,bats,hammers,cars or guns...take your pick, hell maybe bombs!! So as looooong as the threat is with any other deadly weapon...all's well!!
Lord knows it just those eeeeeeeeeevil guns!!
Fucking get real!!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I will never see anything wrong with trying to cut down gun violence. Redundant legislation? Do you think there is a law on the books in NY like the one just passed? What does this have to do with criminals turning in their guns? Please stay focused.

Or do you have a problem with people with mental problems who may potentially use their legal weapons to kill someone being stopped?

The Nazis exterminated those they determined had mental health issues -- they did the same with those who disagreed with them politically. These "Red Flag" laws open the door to legalizing 'swatting' leaving the accused person with meager resources to defend himself in court against the state.

[rexdutchman]

The law LE yes , teachers, family should not be able to ,they should stay in there lane .
Just thing u piss some one off and they talk guns and "hold for 72 hours "mental , should again only be LE / Judges

^^ and yes to IB read history the Nazis started taking guns ( no constitution ) and controlling media.