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Old 09-05-2012, 02:54 PM   #16
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Are you referring to outsourcing companies that we own, like GM, who still owes us billions, and is expanding their business in China and Russia? Are you referring to those businesses, Little Stevie, who President Obama bailed out so they could outsource their new jobs? Just wondering.

And I'm not supporting Romney either. It's just a fact, dude. I know you're not used to those.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:58 PM   #17
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Would you care to explain so we can all enjoy your wit CJ. What can you expect from a person who uses a luxury jet for an icon?
JD, now your talking like a lib. The government and Obama damn near killed the aircraft industry with their class warfare. Most business jets are work tools not luxury jets.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:17 PM   #18
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Are you referring to outsourcing companies that we own, like GM, who still owes us billions, and is expanding their business in China and Russia? Are you referring to those businesses, Little Stevie, who President Obama bailed out so they could outsource their new jobs? Just wondering.

And I'm not supporting Romney either. It's just a fact, dude. I know you're not used to those.
COF, you are so off base you're ridiculous! Rmoney would have closed them up completely and let the foreign factories take over the industry! GM RESTORED many U.S. jobs and continues to do so today, you fucking MORON.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #19
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You don't like facts, do you, Stevie? Well then, never mind. But do take my advice on the caffeine. It doesn't agree with you.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:24 PM   #20
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watch a comedy act sometime, you need some new material
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:38 PM   #21
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You don't like facts, do you, Stevie? Well then, never mind. But do take my advice on the caffeine. It doesn't agree with you.

Here's a two-parter for you, COF

Is GM still here and do they employ U.S.workers? (Yes or No or as you might say - Fact or Fiction?)

Did GM build cars overseas and also export cars top foreign countries BEFORE Obama was President? (Yes or No? Fact of Fiction?)

Please no characteristic side steps, COF. Just a straightforward "Yes or No" answer.)

I'll bet no matter how hard you try, you won't be able to answer those two simple questions truthfully without resorting to your usual evasive maneuvers.)
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:39 PM   #22
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read the entire article .. the source is the BLS, hardly pandering press double speak

The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.

You can read right? It's double talk gobblie-gook. For someone that doesn't like Obama, you sure do jump to his defense - EVERY TIME.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:48 PM   #23
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The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.

You can read right? It's double talk gobblie-gook. For someone that doesn't like Obama, you sure do jump to his defense - EVERY TIME.

god damn olivia, youre fucking crazy as hell .. the article explains it in detail and breaks down the sectors and job additions ...shit girl, go play with the dust particles floating around in the sunshine streaming through the window



here ya go loony tune lady ... from the article

While that is indeed a gain of 4.5 million, it's only a net gain of 300,000 over the course of the Obama administration to date. The private jobs figure stood at 111 million in January 2009, the month Obama took office


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Old 09-05-2012, 03:50 PM   #24
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Stevie, yes and yes.

Now answer me. Did Obama's bailout of GM favor the unions over non-union workers? Did it produce a better result than a Chapter 11 bankruptcy would have? Would a Chapter 11 bankruptcy have allowed GM to renegotiate unfavorable contracts and place it on a firmer financial base? And finally, is GM in trouble again?

Bonus points, Stevie. How big is the expansion of GM into China? And how much of GM do we still own? And when will we be paid back?

I answered yours, you answer mine.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:54 PM   #25
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General Motors and its joint ventures set a new August sales mark in China, sales rose 7.3% from the previous August and 10.8 percent from July to 220,996 units in total.
All three of GM’s key manufacturing joint ventures set sales records for the month. Shanghai GM’s domestic sales were up 11.7 percent on an annual basis to 110,209 units. SAIC-GM-Wuling’s sales in China rose 3.4% to 106,500 units. FAW-GM’s domestic sales increased 17.4% to 4,117 units.
Buick sales in China were up 2.8% on an annual basis to 57,603 units, an all-time high for August. It was once again led by the original Excelle family, which had sales of 22,881 units, followed by the Excelle XT and GT, which had sales of 15,036 units – an increase of 33.0%. In addition, sales of the Buick Regal were up 17.7% on an annual basis to 7,186 units.
Chevrolet sales in China also set a new August record of 53,207 units, which was a rise of 14.7% year on year. Sales of the Cruze totaled 20,043 units. Demand for the Sail rose 40.6 percent to an August record 16,176 units. Sales of the Malibu, which was introduced in February, set an all-time monthly record of 6,443 units.
Cadillac sold 2,104 units in China during August with demand for the SRX luxury utility vehicle reaching 1,584 units in total. Wuling sales in China set a new August record of 99,790 units, an increase of 4.1 percent on an annual basis.
During the January-August period, GM and its joint ventures in China sold 1.837 million vehicles, an increase of 11.2% in year on year comparison and has a new record for the period. Shanghai GM’s sales in China grew 7.1% to 846,822 units. SAIC-GM-Wuling’s domestic sales grew 15.6 percent to 950,621 units. FAW-GM’s domestic sales decreased 1.0% to 36,668 units.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:25 PM   #26
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the new GM got a small loan and did pay it back ... the old GM got $1 Billion bucks and chances are we wont see much more than 25% of that billion back in taxpayers accounts

you can say blame Bush all you want to but its a simple fact he started every single bit of that bullshit .. without him Obie is a fart in a wind storm compared
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:27 PM   #27
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Do folks really not want GM to sale in China?

Do those same folks buy shit made in China?

It is a confusing world!
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:36 PM   #28
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if GM doesnt hit china someone else will

if they werent present there the idiots would be asking why not and blaming somebody else for it

half of the confusion is created, the other half is partisan politics
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:38 PM   #29
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If they are doing so well in China, they can pay us back.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:28 PM   #30
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It is called sarcasm. Try this on for size http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/...ame_obama.html

Don't hurt yourselves.
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