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Old 05-15-2011, 07:07 PM   #16
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this is where the "Ladies" here are right!!!! It takes all the BS and drama away
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:21 AM   #17
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I am a single lady. I see this as no different for me as the men may see me. . .

I get my space that I LOVE! I talk to people when I want to. I am very sexually satisfied. I have a diverse social connection.

Sometimes I crave for much more but I am not sure it will be found in this avenue of fun. We all fulfill each other equally, emotionally, physically, financially and hopefully any of us can walk away when we desire something different

But right now this is WAY TOO MUCH FUN!!!
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As a single hobbyist who has(or had) plans to find a love someday, I have noticed that, since I started hobbying I am becoming less sensitive to love or even to pursue real relationship. Has this occured to you ? Is this a common consequence of hobbying?
I could get into this but it's late. I will keep it short and simple. I am a provider. And I have noticed I am waaaaaaaay less sensitive to love. I used to fall in love left and right before I was an escort. Now, it much more harder for me to feel true emotions for men. I'm not saying I can't, but my emotions are harder to come by. Very interesting topic. I have no idea why some people become less sensitive to love when in the escorting world.
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I could get into this but it's late. I will keep it short and simple. I am a provider. And I have noticed I am waaaaaaaay less sensitive to love. I used to fall in love left and right before I was an escort. Now, it much more harder for me to feel true emotions for men. I'm not saying I can't, but my emotions are harder to come by. Very interesting topic. I have no idea why some people become less sensitive to love when in the escorting world.
I'm sure its because you / we see things for what they really are!

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Old 05-18-2011, 04:31 AM   #20
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this is where the "Ladies" here are right!!!! It takes all the BS and drama away
I'm sure there are some that would say there is just as much drama and bs in the hobby. Just look at the crap that goes on right here on Eccie....

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It's a numbers thing. See enough providers/clients and you start to believe every man/woman is that way. If a guy was in a relationship with 10 different women at different points in his life and all 10 lied and cheated on him then he would probably believe that all women are that way. What he doesn't consider is that 10 is a relativly low number compare to the actual amount of good women out there. Same for the ladies....
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Having been single my whole life, I'm still hoping the "one" will come into my life. I had a couple of serious relationships since breaking my neck in '80, which unfortunately ended because both cheated. That didn't turn me off or affect me or make me less sensitive to love. The hobby hasn't either, since I think I'm really a romantic at heart. All the hobby did was allow me to get what I wasn't getting from women outside it, sex and the sense of intimacy you can only get from a woman. It can't replace love, but it does temporarily fill a void.


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I could get into this but it's late. I will keep it short and simple. I am a provider. And I have noticed I am waaaaaaaay less sensitive to love. I used to fall in love left and right before I was an escort. Now, it much more harder for me to feel true emotions for men. I'm not saying I can't, but my emotions are harder to come by. Very interesting topic. I have no idea why some people become less sensitive to love when in the escorting world.
Sorry to hear this, Isis. Just going by your posts in other threads, the hobby appears to have jaded you towards men. It's obviously changed how you view men, which would directly lead to how you feel about them. Do you no longer think you can trust them? Have you had clients that even if they wanted to see you again you wouldn't? I remember you saying you wouldn't have dinner with someone for a nominal fee no matter what, even though you aren't working while recuperating. You'd rather stay at home and do laundry rather than meet someone who isn't paying your full rate, plus dinner. If escorting has affected you in a negative way, perhaps it's not the profession for you.

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When love finds you, it finds you! Seems like it finds you when your not looking for it!

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I could get into this but it's late. I will keep it short and simple. I am a provider. And I have noticed I am waaaaaaaay less sensitive to love. I used to fall in love left and right before I was an escort. Now, it much more harder for me to feel true emotions for men. I'm not saying I can't, but my emotions are harder to come by. Very interesting topic. I have no idea why some people become less sensitive to love when in the escorting world.
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I'm not sure as much about hobbyists being less sensitive to love, but I certainly think as a provider I am more sensitive. I am able to completely understand the difference between sexual and emotional needs in a relationship and keep my expectations very realistic. I currently have a boyfriend who knows exactly what I do and with this honesty comes a certain level of trust that is pretty amazing, since there is complete honesty. I agree with the guy who said he is able to take more time developing a relationship emotionally without all of the sexual tension, since that has been taken care of by his provider. I can see how it would make a hobbyist less sensitive due to the fact that is is very hard to be honest with someone he is dating, because there is pretty much no way he could ever tell her... uuugh so much to say on this
Found this interesting blog it's a bit old, but very interesting nonetheless.

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I'm not sure as much about hobbyists being less sensitive to love, but I certainly think as a provider I am more sensitive. I am able to completely understand the difference between sexual and emotional needs in a relationship and keep my expectations very realistic. I currently have a boyfriend who knows exactly what I do and with this honesty comes a certain level of trust that is pretty amazing, since there is complete honesty. I agree with the guy who said he is able to take more time developing a relationship emotionally without all of the sexual tension, since that has been taken care of by his provider. I can see how it would make a hobbyist less sensitive due to the fact that is is very hard to be honest with someone he is dating, because there is pretty much no way he could ever tell her... uuugh so much to say on this


No doubt this is the exception to the rule.... but in most cases those boy friends are called......
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:38 AM   #26
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[quote=surcher;1306929]Having been single my whole life, I'm still hoping the "one" will come into my life. I had a couple of serious relationships since breaking my neck in '80, which unfortunately ended because both cheated. That didn't turn me off or affect me or make me less sensitive to love. The hobby hasn't either, since I think I'm really a romantic at heart. All the hobby did was allow me to get what I wasn't getting from women outside it, sex and the sense of intimacy you can only get from a woman. It can't replace love, but it does temporarily fill a void.




Sorry to hear this, Isis. Just going by your posts in other threads, the hobby appears to have jaded you towards men. It's obviously changed how you view men, which would directly lead to how you feel about them. Do you no longer think you can trust them? Have you had clients that even if they wanted to see you again you wouldn't? I remember you saying you wouldn't have dinner with someone for a nominal fee no matter what, even though you aren't working while recuperating. You'd rather stay at home and do laundry rather than meet someone who isn't paying your full rate, plus dinner. If escorting has affected you in a negative way, perhaps it's not the profession for you.


Actually, one of my last boyfriends was abusive to me. I stayed with him for 3 years so perhaps thats where I've become jaded? I'm much more happy now days then in the past. As far as the nominal fee rate for dinner, I feel that an escorts time should be compensated accordingly. Men shouldn't expect free dates with us. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, just speaking in general terms. Yes, you are right. Escorting has changed my view on men, but honestly, can any escort truely say it hasn't? It's true,. before escorting I was a big softy. Always looking and following and falling in love. Now days it just seems like I'm not as sensitive as I used to be. Maybe it's because I'm getting massive attention now days being an escort, vs. in the past I wasn't getting the attention I craved? I think it may have more to do with my needs being met now vs. in the past. I'm not saying I use escorting for my emotional needs. But I do get the attention and compensation I deserve vs. in the past I felt lonely and unfulfilled chasing crappy men who played head games. Today I'm wiser also. I can sniff out a jerk or a game player but in the past I was so nieve because I didn't have the life experiences to know anything. I think I'm jaded by the men I dated and had relationships with. Thats why I don't date. I escort. I'm tired of charity work.
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Having been single my whole life, I'm still hoping the "one" will come into my life. I had a couple of serious relationships since breaking my neck in '80, which unfortunately ended because both cheated. That didn't turn me off or affect me or make me less sensitive to love. The hobby hasn't either, since I think I'm really a romantic at heart. All the hobby did was allow me to get what I wasn't getting from women outside it, sex and the sense of intimacy you can only get from a woman. It can't replace love, but it does temporarily fill a void.




Sorry to hear this, Isis. Just going by your posts in other threads, the hobby appears to have jaded you towards men. It's obviously changed how you view men, which would directly lead to how you feel about them. Do you no longer think you can trust them? Have you had clients that even if they wanted to see you again you wouldn't? I remember you saying you wouldn't have dinner with someone for a nominal fee no matter what, even though you aren't working while recuperating. You'd rather stay at home and do laundry rather than meet someone who isn't paying your full rate, plus dinner. If escorting has affected you in a negative way, perhaps it's not the profession for you.


Actually, one of my last boyfriends was abusive to me. I stayed with him for 3 years so perhaps thats where I've become jaded? I'm much more happy now days then in the past. As far as the nominal fee rate for dinner, I feel that an escorts time should be compensated accordingly. Men shouldn't expect free dates with us. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, just speaking in general terms. Yes, you are right. Escorting has changed my view on men, but honestly, can any escort truely say it hasn't? It's true,. before escorting I was a big softy. Always looking and following and falling in love. Now days it just seems like I'm not as sensitive as I used to be. Maybe it's because I'm getting massive attention now days being an escort, vs. in the past I wasn't getting the attention I craved? I think it may have more to do with my needs being met now vs. in the past. I'm not saying I use escorting for my emotional needs. But I do get the attention and compensation I deserve vs. in the past I felt lonely and unfulfilled chasing crappy men who played head games. Today I'm wiser also. I can sniff out a jerk or a game player but in the past I was so nieve because I didn't have the life experiences to know anything. I think I'm jaded by the men I dated and had relationships with. Thats why I don't date. I escort. I'm tired of charity work.
It's a good thing or guys like me would never be able to have the life changing experience of being with such a wonderful person like yourself
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I'm sorry to hear that. One thing I'll never understand is why anyone stays in an abusive relationship, unless they feel attempting to leave will put their lives, or physical well being in jeopardy. I'm glad you're out of it and happier now.

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As far as the nominal fee rate for dinner, I feel that an escorts time should be compensated accordingly. Men shouldn't expect free dates with us.
I still don't understand why you think men would expect free dates from you or others if you were to meet someone for dinner with compensation. I understand you want compensation for your time. However, in a time when you were, or may still be unable to work while your augmentation heals, I don't understand how meeting a potential client for a nice dinner, plus a nominal fee, is simply out of the question. You said there are exceptions, and to me, because you're unable to work, this seems like the perfect time for that exception. Besides, who would know you accepted such an invitation other than you two? Try looking at it as a really good PR move. If you work your magic at dinner, you're very likely looking at repeat client at full rate, plus tips. We take this as a woman who's not all about the money and men like that. If you make a man feel special, he will want to see you repeatedly.[/QUOTE]





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Now days it just seems like I'm not as sensitive as I used to be. Maybe it's because I'm getting massive attention now days being an escort, vs. in the past I wasn't getting the attention I craved? I think it may have more to do with my needs being met now vs. in the past. I'm not saying I use escorting for my emotional needs. But I do get the attention and compensation I deserve vs. in the past I felt lonely and unfulfilled chasing crappy men who played head games. Today I'm wiser also. I can sniff out a jerk or a game player but in the past I was so nieve because I didn't have the life experiences to know anything. I think I'm jaded by the men I dated and had relationships with. Thats why I don't date. I escort. I'm tired of charity work.
WOW! You now get the attention and compensation you deserve and you're tired of charity work? That sounds like a woman who's all about herself and the money and feels our time is not worth as much as hers. When you come back to work I suggest you never let anyone know you were Isis. However, with feelings like this I think she will eventually come out in any persona.

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I'm sorry to hear that. One thing I'll never understand is why anyone stays in an abusive relationship, unless they feel attempting to leave will put their lives, or physical well being in jeopardy. I'm glad you're out of it and happier now.

I still don't understand why you think men would expect free dates from you or others if you were to meet someone for dinner with compensation. I understand you want compensation for your time. However, in a time when you were, or may still be unable to work while your augmentation heals, I don't understand how meeting a potential client for a nice dinner, plus a nominal fee, is simply out of the question. You said there are exceptions, and to me, because you're unable to work, this seems like the perfect time for that exception. Besides, who would know you accepted such an invitation other than you two? Try looking at it as a really good PR move. If you work your magic at dinner, you're very likely looking at repeat client at full rate, plus tips. We take this as a woman who's not all about the money and men like that. If you make a man feel special, he will want to see you repeatedly.

Its a sign......

WOW! You now get the attention and compensation you deserve and you're tired of charity work? That sounds like a woman who's all about herself and the money and feels our time is not worth as much as hers. When you come back to work I suggest you never let anyone know you were Isis. However, with feelings like this I think she will eventually come out in any persona.

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I'm not sure as much about hobbyists being less sensitive to love, but I certainly think as a provider I am more sensitive. I am able to completely understand the difference between sexual and emotional needs in a relationship and keep my expectations very realistic. I currently have a boyfriend who knows exactly what I do and with this honesty comes a certain level of trust that is pretty amazing, since there is complete honesty. I agree with the guy who said he is able to take more time developing a relationship emotionally without all of the sexual tension, since that has been taken care of by his provider. I can see how it would make a hobbyist less sensitive due to the fact that is is very hard to be honest with someone he is dating, because there is pretty much no way he could ever tell her... uuugh so much to say on this


No doubt this is the exception to the rule.... but in most cases those boy friends are called......
It was a long hard road to get there, we were dating and I was lying about my work, he has his job, I have mine, eventually I just realized he was my best friend and deserved to know even if that meant he would leave. I gave him that truth, and he took it surprisingly well and said he would have felt much worse if I had a relationship where I was in love with somebody else. I also think he knew because he has a way of reading me...
We keep things simple, he has his job, I have mine, He keeps his money, I keep mine... we don't co-mingle funds
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