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11-30-2010, 12:05 PM
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#16
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Opinionated Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by Becky
And if a woman decides to have hers removed, or never allowed any from the start would that be a deal breaker, or would you then simply focus on other bits of her info instead ?
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I completely understand the reluctance by many ladies to allow reviews. But a total absence might be a deal breaker for me. While most reviews don't have much useful information, they can provide at least some help in assessing whether I would enjoy her company. I might be able to gain the same reassurance in other ways, but they may not be as reliable and they may take a lot more time and effort.
A lady's website or posts or blog can give insight, but they're also from her perspective. Might be deceptive; might be self-serving. Hopefully not, but even then, it might be an honest but inaccurate self-perception. Or might just suffer from the inherent limitation that the lady's perspective on a P4P encounter differs from the client's perspective. *shrug* Again, these sources may be sufficient but I would be nervous about relying on them, rather than the perspective of her clients, without investing a hell of a lot of time in the decision.
Referrals? I suspect those tend to be either: (1) informative and therefore effectively a review, just verbal rather than written or private rather than public; or (2) a recommendation, but not objective/informative and therefore not reliable unless you receive the referral from someone you know well enough to trust their judgment and know that you and he have similar preferences for P4P experiences. I've seen ladies based on referrals/recommendations a few times, but it usually hasn't worked out well.
I applaud the ladies who don't need them. And I respect the decision by the ladies who don't want them (and I don't write reviews myself unless the lady requests one). I wouldn't dream of demanding that ladies subject themselves to review. But, while I wouldn't necessarily rule out seeing a lady who doesn't have reviews, it's much less likely.
Note: My perspective is influenced significantly by two factors. First, I "connect" with relatively few ladies I meet (consider that a personality or character flaw on my part) and therefore want as much information as possible to minimize time spent on trysts with incompatible ladies. Second, I started doing this 35+ years ago and remember the bad old days when we didn't have access to information from other clients. Subconsciously, I suppose I associate "limited information" with "bad or mediocre experience" because that happened a lot back then.
So my perspective is probably not typical.
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11-30-2010, 01:12 PM
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#17
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Valued Poster
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A little truth in advertising - I don't write reviews. There are differing opinions on this but I feel that, as a mod, it's not a good idea. Some folks will feel that the reviewed lady is getting Board favors and I've had ladies try to take advantage of a perceived fav status. Thus, over the years, my policy has evolved to not do them.
That said; I do search reviews for hints of whether or not a lady likes the same things I like or, as CT would say, whether she will put up with my likes or dislikes. A lady who has few or no reviews and is new has no shot with me. However, a lady who has no reviews and is enough of a Board presence for me to be comfortable in my knowledge of her likes and dislikes is at no disadvantage.
I've been known to contact others who I know have been with a "no review" lady to obtain some additional insight.
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11-30-2010, 01:41 PM
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#18
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I hate them. I understand the need to assure a woman is who she claims to be, on time, sober, polite, not law enforcement, etc. But the graphic play-by-plays are so offensive; even the most "positive" ones gross me out. I'd prefer to attract clientele who are attracted to my looks and personality (as portrayed on my site), not the guy who's just dying to have a girl who performs a particular act. They're also incriminating and embarrassing. If someone in my personal life were to discover that I participate in this world, it would be that much worse if they could google "Natalie Hunter" and find a page of TER reviews talking about me.
I guess in the same way ladies have blacklists to protect one another, gents deserve the same. But as we protect their privacy (at least, I hope we all do!) and don't post publicly the intimate details about our time together, I think we deserve the same respect.
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11-30-2010, 01:55 PM
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#19
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Opinionated Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by Natalie
I guess in the same way ladies have blacklists to protect one another, gents deserve the same. But as we protect their privacy (at least, I hope we all do!) and don't post publicly the intimate details about our time together, I think we deserve the same respect.
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I certainly agree that we should respect a particular lady's wishes in this regard, and I do. But the blacklists and reviews, or the lady's and the client's perspectives, are not entirely symmetrical because of the element of choice. Clients decide whom (subject to her consent) to see; ladies decide whom (among those seeking a rendezvous) not to see. At least to some extent and for some people, the information needs are somewhat different. However, it's likely different for many of the denizens of this particular forum.
And with respect to the concept of "that was private, between two individuals, not something to be shared with a bunch of anonymous strangers -- I understand that attitude as well. It feels as strange to me to write one as it feels strange to a lady to be written about. Also part of why I no longer write reviews unless the lady has expressed a desire for me to do so.
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11-30-2010, 01:58 PM
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#20
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Originally Posted by Becky
So, my question goes back to the men.How much do you rely on reviews when deciding on who you want to meet? And if a woman decides to have hers removed, or never allowed any from the start would that be a deal breaker, or would you then simply focus on other bits of her info instead ?
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I will use reviews as part of an evaluation, if the person I am thinking of meeting, would be a match. There have been times where I have seen someone without looking at a review, and others where I've read them and even with one clunker review and others saying stellar things, I have gone forward, thinking the bad one was an anomaly. And there have been one or two where I really should have paid attention to the review. ![Frown](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/frown.gif)
I will ask my temporary partner if they would like me to post one or not. Then if I get around to it I'll post but intimate times are to be savored (disclaimer: I have spilled some of the beans about trysts here. So sue me. ). ![Smile](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I don't believe any ladies have reviewed me. But if they do I'll give them a discount.
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11-30-2010, 02:07 PM
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#21
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Upgraded Female Account
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Join Date: Sep 18, 2010
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I personally hate reviews! All of mine are good except for one bad one that this jerkoff on escorts.com wrote (I refused to see him because he wouldn't cooperate with my screening, he wouldn't even tell me his first name!), but the guys who write tons of reviews really need to get a life! I declined to see one guy because he wrote over 50 reviews in less than a year on TER, and lots of them were bad. He seemed like a hard man to please, so I just told him I was booked. LOL
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11-30-2010, 02:21 PM
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#22
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Though I have all great reviews and I hate them. it's just easier to make money with them LOL!
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11-30-2010, 02:47 PM
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People are just evil and write them for payback because someone refused service to them or write fake reviews, how is that helping the community.
Too much back and forth, going on pages and pages.
Granted some gents write nice, classy, respectful reviews. While other's well...not so much.
Some guys post phone numbers, real addresses and pics that was not to be disclosed, simply because it was never disclosed, maybe the provider as UTR.
The OP did say the ladies could rant right?
I posted something like this in the Dallas co-ed. People were told (me) to grow a thicker skin. Well providers have feelings to. If you have never seen the provider being reviewed, why say negative things about her. If she was not so great looking to you, sorry, maybe she was beautiful to the next.
Providers have no say or control over what is said in the reviews and I understand that, I would not want that job. Heck no. However there are providers being torn down pretty badly in reviews and half time she has no clue why or what happen.
Okay im done. :-)
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11-30-2010, 02:48 PM
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I personally hate reviews! All of mine are good
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Dear Jessica, I couldn't help but notice on your website (nice pix BTW) you have a link to reviews. ![Frown](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/frown.gif) I guess they are a necessary evil in marketing one's self. I would hate it too (to be reviewed) now that I think about it.
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11-30-2010, 02:53 PM
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Yup! I'm sure reviews get very personal BCD good/bad but anway I have no problem discussing a client and his attitude/looks/odor/breath (bad or good) with another lady. One good turn deserves another
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Oh, I don't know about that. I'm sure there is feedback about certain hobbyists (especially those with high visibility) that floats throughout the ladies' forums.
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11-30-2010, 04:07 PM
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If ya don't like reviews, screen out the clients that review or just don't read them. Problem solved.
The cream always rises to the top so a bad review or two will always be balanced by the many that did enjoy your company.
Nobody likes being graded in front of the whole class but that is the glory of the net but before the net it was word of mouth. People get reviewed in ever aspect of life.
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11-30-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SR Only
Dear Jessica, I couldn't help but notice on your website (nice pix BTW) you have a link to reviews. ![Frown](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/frown.gif) I guess they are a necessary evil in marketing one's self. I would hate it too (to be reviewed) now that I think about it.
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Thanks for the compliment! When I was new, lots of guys would email me and ask where my reviews were, so I decided to have links to them on my website. It's easier than emailing back and forth LOL. ![Smile](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/smile.gif) You're right that they're a necessary evil, and it gives guys some peace of mind that you're not LE or a cash and dasher.
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11-30-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Becky
So, my question goes back to the men.How much do you rely on reviews when deciding on who you want to meet? And if a woman decides to have hers removed, or never allowed any from the start would that be a deal breaker, or would you then simply focus on other bits of her info instead ?
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Becky--I used to rely on reviews...not so much now. I decided a while ago I didn't need to have premium access, so cannot see the ROS. My premier screening is as follows (not necessarily in order): does she have a p411 account? Does she have a web site? Does she post her rates in a plain fashion (I hate having to try and figure the cost from the formulas some ladies post)? Can I infer what her personality is like from all available information? Is she between 30 and 50? Are we compatible in the activities we like? Are we physically compatible? And finally, my last consideration (which may be her first) can I afford the date?
I may be more likely to see someone who posts than someone who doesn't. I feel like I "know" them, and I feel like they have some sense of what I might be like (although my board persona is not necessarily what I am like in person).
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Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302
People are just evil and write them for payback because someone refused service to them or write fake reviews, how is that helping the community. This is too broad a generalization. There may be a few guys who write "payback" reviews, but the vast majority don't. As the members of this board can attest, I have rarely been satisfied by a session, but I have never written a review in which a lady was not recommended. Even the few times I felt screwed on time or some other thing, I mentioned it in passing, but still gave a recommendation.
Too much back and forth, going on pages and pages. Can't go on forever...there are time limits on the review threads.
Granted some gents write nice, classy, respectful reviews. While other's well...not so much.
Some guys post phone numbers, real addresses and pics that was not to be disclosed, simply because it was never disclosed, maybe the provider as UTR. Yes, I know, but generally speaking, the Mods are pretty good about editing out this info. All you gotta do is alert them.
The OP did say the ladies could rant right?
I posted something like this in the Dallas co-ed. People were told (me) to grow a thicker skin. Well providers have feelings to. I agree, because we are all human beings. If you have never seen the provider being reviewed, why say negative things about her. If she was not so great looking to you, sorry, maybe she was beautiful to the next. Agreed. WALDT.
Providers have no say or control over what is said in the reviews and I understand that, I would not want that job. Heck no. However there are providers being torn down pretty badly in reviews and half time she has no clue why or what happen. As a hobbyist, if I see one negative review of a lady, and several positive ones, I would discount the solo negative. However, on the other hand, there are some ladies with reputations for being undependable. I saw one in Houston that had a terrible reputation for being late, and she promised in an ad not to be late: she arrived an hour early...that was just as bad. And there is a Dallas lady that travels often that will book you in the morning, but whether or not she actually makes the date is a shot in the dark. And her reviews reflect this pretty consistently.
Okay im done. :-)
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11-30-2010, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
People get reviewed in ever aspect of life.
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This is very true, although usually people are not being reviewed on anything that is this personal.
I do agree that anytime you offer a service, or product people are going to judge what you have to offer. That part of it I can respect. I am just not sure if it is the actual review that I have the problem with, or the way that they are broken down into every little detail especially on some of the larger review boards. I can understand why men use them as a way to avoid disappointment,but still feel that in their present state some of the review boards offer up way too much information.
This is Edward laying under his tree
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12-01-2010, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005
Becky--I used to rely on reviews...not so much now. I decided a while ago I didn't need to have premium access, so cannot see the ROS. My premier screening is as follows (not necessarily in order): does she have a p411 account? Does she have a web site? Does she post her rates in a plain fashion (I hate having to try and figure the cost from the formulas some ladies post)? Can I infer what her personality is like from all available information? Is she between 30 and 50? Are we compatible in the activities we like? Are we physically compatible? And finally, my last consideration (which may be her first) can I afford the date?
I may be more likely to see someone who posts than someone who doesn't. I feel like I "know" them, and I feel like they have some sense of what I might be like (although my board persona is not necessarily what I am like in person).
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