Can the White House change Unemployment Numbers?

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

So now even WTF, Assup, and the rest know that California was left out of the report. Yes, the numbers are wrong. Who runs California? Yep, Jerry Brown and the democratic party. You were right to this point. Everything after is your brand of projected self-loathing. You believe career non-partisan workers at BLS will throw their honor away like you did yours. On information that can be checked many different ways. So all a person from the White House has to do is call the state BLS in California and suggest that they take a week off with pay. Those reports can be submitted later.

Thank God you are nobody.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Your post is hypothetical strawman bs. Sure the numbers can be manipulated. Even Mark Twain knows it.

Munchmasterman x 13,000 = 0



But thanks for normal non-blue font.

This coming from a gnadfly. You know, those little bugs flying around a guy's asshole in an outdoor porn movie.

Nice try on applying anecdotal statements, the ultimate strawman, to checkable numbers.

The only thing Mark Twain knows is that he is dead.

And here is that font color that is pronounced the same as the thing you did to me yesterday (You blew me)

[JD Barleycorn]

You know Munchie if we still fought duels in this country I would be more than happy to meet you on the field of honor. Since we can't do that just understand that I know you to be a stinky, little piece of shit without a spine or an iota of honor.

[i'va biggen]

Hey there is still snowballs at 30 paces in July...

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Repeat the lie often enough and you will believe it.

But Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser, also wrote that their estimates were "subject to significant margins of error," and "considerable uncertainty."

We’ve previously ruled that the report was not a promise, but a projection, noting its several caveats."

Learn to do some research.

Dont' have to, you provide the answers buried in your posts. Read before you post.

"........the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser,....."

Got the fox to watch the chicken coop I see.

So, he did say, but when he said it ... it was a "prediction" ... like closing GITMO?

He is slick. Always has an answer for why he didn't accomplish what he promised.

Oh, wait, it was a prediction. I'm sorry.

Give me trillions of dollars to piss off and I predict unemployment will be 5.6%!

[gnadfly]

Munch, the two strawman arguments in your post are:

1. Even if Galvin or some other top official in the bureau wanted to lie about the numbers, they couldn't possibly do it alone.

There had to be a massive conspiracy which isn't possible.

2. Maybe in Welch's world, it is possible to go around with a big wad of money and buy off people at the drop of a hat, but the idea that someone from the Obama administration wandered through the top echelons of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to buy their cooperation in fixing the unemployment numbers is absurd on its face.

In Welch's world, he gets what he wants by walking around bribing people. Obama wouldn't buy anyone off so the numbers have to be true.

So it appears Rep Issa is going to hold a hearing on this next week. I don't want to set up a strawman but his hearing on the Libyan Ambassador's death was revealing.

One calculation is still true: Munchmasterman x 13000= 0

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You know Munchie if we still fought duels in this country I would be more than happy to meet you on the field of honor. Since we can't do that just understand that I know you to be a stinky, little piece of shit without a spine or an iota of honor.

Like you know what a field of honor looks like.
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Sorry charlie. Someone would have flushed your toilet long before we ever interacted.

Every day you tell of some group of people they are criminals, moochers of some type, or like today with your comments about CA BLS cooking their numbers so Obama can get a .2% lowering of unemployment?

I stand by everything I've said about you. When you're wrong you won't admit it. Worse is that you don't learn from it.

You bluster and demand satisfaction only because you know you will never have to give it.
Besides, everyone knows you wouldn't show up if it was for real.

[Fast Gunn]

Newsflash!

Some of you guys just need to face the cold hard facts.

When the unemployment numbers were high, you blamed the administration for not goosing up the economy.

Now, when the numbers are finally down, you suggest that the administration suddenly and magically produced fraudulent numbers?

As the Stones might say, you can't get no satisfaction!

. . . With that kind of mentality, your only gurantee in life is that you will have much unhappiness!

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Newsflash!

Some of you guys just need to face the cold hard facts.

When the unemployment numbers were high, you blamed the administration for not goosing up the economy.

Now, when the numbers are finally down, you suggest that the administration suddenly and magically produced fraudulent numbers?

As the Stones might say, you can't get no satisfaction!

. . . With that kind of mentality, your only gurantee in life is that you will have much unhappiness!

The unemployment numbers are still high - wouldn't you agree?
The issue is that they are somehow below the 8% level right before the election. Something smells and it is proven that "a large state" didn't report.
When BHO decided to throw the First Amendment under the bus and blame a Youtube video for an Ambassador's death he thought "Dumbasses like FastGunn will buy this. I can count on FastGunn."
"The most transparent administration in History."
You require so little from "Dear Leader."

[iggy]

Only way the White House is going to change is to change who lives there !!

Only way Us Little Guys are going to have a chance to get ahead !!

Romney may not be the answer, however he is the Lesser of two Evils

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

The unemployment numbers are still high - wouldn't you agree?
The issue is that they are somehow below the 8% level right before the election. Something smells and it is proven that "a large state" didn't report.
When BHO decided to throw the First Amendment under the bus and blame a Youtube video for an Ambassador's death he thought "Dumbasses like FastGunn will buy this. I can count on FastGunn."
"The most transparent administration in History."
You require so little from "Dear Leader."

You mean "Dear Comrade Leader"...

[Fast Gunn]

I suppose when you have no valid argument,


you can always demonize the opposition and try to fool people who are foolish enough to believe a hogwash story in the first place.!

. . . The damn numbers are correct. Over and out!

Originally Posted by gnadfly

The unemployment numbers are still high - wouldn't you agree?
The issue is that they are somehow below the 8% level right before the election. Something smells and it is proven that "a large state" didn't report.
When BHO decided to throw the First Amendment under the bus and blame a Youtube video for an Ambassador's death he thought "Dumbasses like FastGunn will buy this. I can count on FastGunn."
"The most transparent administration in History."
You require so little from "Dear Leader."

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Munch, the two strawman arguments in your post are:

1. Even if Galvin or some other top official in the bureau wanted to lie about the numbers, they couldn't possibly do it alone. This is true. If you don't believe it, who cares?

There had to be a massive conspiracy which isn't possible. And what argument do you have that large conspiracies in a bureaucracy that is @ half republican can go undetected?

2. Maybe in Welch's world, it is possible to go around with a big wad of money and buy off people at the drop of a hat, but the idea that someone from the Obama administration wandered through the top echelons of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to buy their cooperation in fixing the unemployment numbers is absurd on its face.

In Welch's world, he gets what he wants by walking around bribing people. Obama wouldn't buy anyone off so the numbers have to be true.
Here is the statement douche bag. Stop trying to change the meaning of things to the way you wish they were. Deal with things the way they are. Maybe in Welch's world, it is possible to go around with a big wad of money and buy off people at the drop of a hat, but the idea that someone from the Obama administration wandered through the top echelons of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to buy their cooperation in fixing the unemployment numbers is absurd on its face.

So it appears Rep Issa is going to hold a hearing on this next week. I don't want to set up a strawman but his hearing on the Libyan Ambassador's death was revealing.
What's with you and your strawmen? I have to admit you are the fastest twine winder on the site.

One calculation is still true: Munchmasterman x 13000= 0 As true as anything you post.

Jack welsh claims the books were cooked. The article says "maybe in welshs world". Don't tell you don't know that means maybe in make believe world those things can happen.

[JD Barleycorn]

Fast gunn ( are you a duelist too) can you not see the obvious. It isn't that the numbers are going down, it is how unbelievably fast they are going down and for no apparent reason. If you saw a baseball player with a .178 batting average come back in the spring 30 lbs heavier and batting at .388 wouldn't you be suspicious?


It is not necessary to have some grand conspiracy. Just have one person not go to work for a week and fail to turn in the numbers. It's not like anyone gets fired in government.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Fast gunn ( are you a duelist too) can you not see the obvious. It isn't that the numbers are going down, it is how unbelievably fast they are going down and for no apparent reason. If you saw a baseball player with a .178 batting average come back in the spring 30 lbs heavier and batting at .388 wouldn't you be suspicious?


It is not necessary to have some grand conspiracy. Just have one person not go to work for a week and fail to turn in the numbers. It's not like anyone gets fired in government.

I see you missed the information the article had. You know, the part about needing many people to impact the numbers?

See what I mean? Every theory you have involves your belief that some group acts as a single entity and takes a negative direction. And that you are supposedly superior to every person in the group.

Do those beliefs come from having all of your students thinking you suck at your job. They're thinking that if you can't learn then how can you teach?