Self respect and mutal respect

[pyramider]

You merely caught us in a weak moment, I must have been feverish . . . We can be just as senseless in out responses as the average fucktard.

[Guest011914-1]

you are so right hobbying provides a rare opportunity most people miss out on...

Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

I'm impressed by the level of sensibleness in the replies (maybe I made up that word, who knows). I like that someone said this is a real world - of course it is.

What I've really noticed in life lately is how lonely people are, how hungry. Today I was noting again how compulsive people were on their mobile phones and thinking how lonely that behaviour is, but that too shall pass. Maybe in 10 years it'll be a joke. Outdated like doing poppers used to be so fashionable in gay clubs in London.

I think this world (escorting) brings people together for a bit, perhaps meaningfully, and that's more than can be said in the regular world a lot of the time. Sadly.

[Cpalmson]

I'll be honest, I hobby for multiple reasons, and yes, it partly has to do with both the real world and the hobby world. Obviously, I hobby for the sex. I get a thrill out of being with another person just simply for sex-- no strings attached, no ulterior motives, etc. I also hobby because of inadequacies I face in the real world. As a teen and into my 20s, I never dated. It wasn't for a lack of trying. I was the reject king and heard the "let's just be friends" line way too often. This rejection pushed me into the world of strip clubs, porn, phone sex, etc. I finally crossed the line into seeing providers. I actually lost my virginity to a provider. As I've gotten older, I know that in the civie real-world, I could now do rather well and not have to worry as much about rejection; however, I take comfort in the fact that in the hobby world, there is no rejection. Everyone is more or less equal, and to be honest, the golden rule thrives in the hobby world whereas it seems to be lacking in the real world.

[B.Wayne]

This is interesting. Self respect, I only hope that is not an issue where a woman feels degrated, that should never happen. I would hope she respects herself and realizes how wonderful I think she is when we meet. and afterwards she really does take a part of me with her when we part ways if she knows it or not or wants it. Its awsome because I can have a school boy crush on someone I see and go forward with it rather than just be left to wonder. It always kills me when I see some women defeat themselves with her own view of herself in thinking she is anything less just because of what she chooses to do. I had to soul search and stop beating myself up when a relationship I wanted more than anything, to work, did not. I shut so many feelings and emotions out for fear of getting my heart broken again. What I learned is that I refuse to be jaded and I will never chase after a woman again, I no longer fear rejection which was a big issue with me, I dont have to worry about getting my heart broken anymore and I could let it go and start respecting myself without an "im worthless" mentality. Mutual respect: Is simply a must, if she isn't into something like FK or DAty ect, ect, then I do not want her to go through it just to make me happy, I get nothing out of it, I am flattered by the gesture but,... id rather not. what is being defined as "mutual respect"? To put it simply I respect her as a person, and a woman which means I dont play games, or cause unwanted B.S., and it isn't just about me, it's about "US" I don't tell her a bunch of stories or waste time, but I have a different view and I suppose I could tend to get a little too personal but thats just the kind of person I am. I take a genuine interest in someone and want to get to know them, I dont think in "business terms" but rather......I guess like a... BFE? but not everyone is going to have that mind set. But on the other end of that spectrum if she thinks in terms of "business only" and leaves the human part out of it then we have nothing to discuss because I can't and will not knowingly see someone like that. it cheapens the experience and showes the opposite of respect in my opinion. But Im not purposfully going to try to hang out or be a bother. sometimes its how you go about things that showes your respect for the other person the most and taking a genuine interest I think is about the only way to do that....then again I have been told I am too analytical.... meh, I blame it on being a workaholic.

[hobbyprojb]

For me..The hobby has given me the oppurtunity to have plenty of great dates with women way out of my leauge..fantasies that would never happen beyond the stretch in my civie life!

Glad I chose this lifestyle..Plenty of Great dates..No regrets!

[Guest011914-1]

You and I share the same mindset...I call this the hobby world mainly because I don't view this just as a business I like to start the aspect of getting to know someone and I never refer to a gentleman as a "client: just seems too impersonal and I use the term BFE..I maintain email contact in between meetings and and when we leave I hope besides great sex they leave with something more...but that is just me. I CHOOSE to do this and I am not ashamed of what I do or who I am..The only two people I hide this from are my children for obvious reasons but aside from them I do not hiding it...

Originally Posted by B.Wayne

This is interesting. Self respect, I only hope that is not an issue where a woman feels degrated, that should never happen. I would hope she respects herself and realizes how wonderful I think she is when we meet. and afterwards she really does take a part of me with her when we part ways if she knows it or not or wants it. Its awsome because I can have a school boy crush on someone I see and go forward with it rather than just be left to wonder. It always kills me when I see some women defeat themselves with her own view of herself in thinking she is anything less just because of what she chooses to do. I had to soul search and stop beating myself up when a relationship I wanted more than anything, to work, did not. I shut so many feelings and emotions out for fear of getting my heart broken again. What I learned is that I refuse to be jaded and I will never chase after a woman again, I no longer fear rejection which was a big issue with me, I dont have to worry about getting my heart broken anymore and I could let it go and start respecting myself without an "im worthless" mentality. Mutual respect: Is simply a must, if she isn't into something like FK or DAty ect, ect, then I do not want her to go through it just to make me happy, I get nothing out of it, I am flattered by the gesture but,... id rather not. what is being defined as "mutual respect"? To put it simply I respect her as a person, and a woman which means I dont play games, or cause unwanted B.S., and it isn't just about me, it's about "US" I don't tell her a bunch of stories or waste time, but I have a different view and I suppose I could tend to get a little too personal but thats just the kind of person I am. I take a genuine interest in someone and want to get to know them, I dont think in "business terms" but rather......I guess like a... BFE? but not everyone is going to have that mind set. But on the other end of that spectrum if she thinks in terms of "business only" and leaves the human part out of it then we have nothing to discuss because I can't and will not knowingly see someone like that. it cheapens the experience and showes the opposite of respect in my opinion. But Im not purposfully going to try to hang out or be a bother. sometimes its how you go about things that showes your respect for the other person the most and taking a genuine interest I think is about the only way to do that....then again I have been told I am too analytical.... meh, I blame it on being a workaholic.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

I'm impressed by the level of sensibleness in the replies (maybe I made up that word, who knows). I like that someone said this is a real world - of course it is.

What I've really noticed in life lately is how lonely people are, how hungry. Today I was noting again how compulsive people were on their mobile phones and thinking how lonely that behaviour is, but that too shall pass. Maybe in 10 years it'll be a joke. Outdated like doing poppers used to be so fashionable in gay clubs in London.

I think this world (escorting) brings people together for a bit, perhaps meaningfully, and that's more than can be said in the regular world a lot of the time. Sadly.

Agreed!