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07-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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Article 5
Editorial Board Responsibilities
- Section 1: The Editor-in-Chief shall act in the best interests of the Indiana Law Review and in a fair and equitable manner. All executive power of the Indiana Law Review shall be vested in the Editor-in-Chief, including, but not limited to, the following powers:
- planning, organizing, and coordinating the work of the Indiana Law Review;
- interpreting and enforcing the policies of the Editorial Board;
- calling meetings of the Editorial Board and the Executive Board, setting agendas, and presiding over such meetings;
- representing the Indiana Law Review to authors, to the general public, and to the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law administration, faculty, and students;
- selecting, with the Executive Articles Editors, lead articles for publication;
- selecting, with the Executive Notes Editor, student Notes for publication;
- giving final approval for the publication of all articles, Notes, and other manuscripts;
- supervising and evaluating the performance of the members of the Indiana Law Review and advising the Faculty Advisor(s) in regard to members' grades and credits;
- creating committees and appointing chairpersons and members to such committees;
- supervising all paid employees of the Indiana Law Review; and
- issuing reprimands to any member.
- Section 2: The decision or action of the Editor-in-Chief shall be final, provided such decision or action is not contrary to the Bylaws or established Policies of the Editorial Board.
- Section 3: The Executive Managing Editor is responsible for the production of the Indiana Law Review; i.e., for taking the articles and notes from manuscript form to final publication. The Executive Managing Editor has the following duties:
- planning the production phase of each issue;
- distributing and evaluating editing assignments;
- setting deadlines for all editing assignments; and
- completing page proofs of each article.
Along with the Editor-in-Chief, the Executive Managing Editor also performs manuscript edits and page proofs of each article and Note.
- Section 4: The Executive Notes Editor is responsible for the administration of the student writing program. Specifically, the Executive Notes Editor is responsible for coordinating, with the Editor-in-Chief, the Candidate selection process and the Candidate Note-writing process. If needed, the Executive Notes Editor assists the Executive Managing Editor in the production phase of the student Notes chosen for publication.
- Section 5: The Executive Articles Editors solicit and select, with the Editor-in-Chief, articles for each issue, and are responsible for the contents of each issue. The Executive Articles Editors read and critique articles for possible publication. In addition, the Executive Articles Editors are responsible for the "dummy book" of each issue (a model of what will appear where), and, if needed, for assisting the Executive Managing Editor in production.
- Section 6: The Senior Executive Editor is responsible for overseeing, under the guidance of the Executive Managing Editor, the process of editing articles and Notes. Specifically, the Senior Executive Editor assists the Articles Editors in carrying out their duties. In addition, the Senior Executive Editor is responsible for overseeing the process of retrieving the sources cited in each article and Note.
- Section 7: The Symposium Editor is responsible for organizing and managing an annual Indiana Law Review symposium. Specifically, the Symposium Editor is responsible for planning, promoting, and executing the symposium.
- Section 8: Note Development Editors are the primary contact with the Candidates throughout the Note-writing process. Note Development Editors have the following duties:
- advising Candidates in writing their Notes;
- ranking the Notes for publication; and
- assisting with editing as needed.
- Section 9: Articles Editors shall have the following duties:
- making editing assignments to Associate Editors and Candidates in conformance with the policies established by the Editorial Board;
- coordinating any editing changes made to the articles to which they are assigned; and
- evaluating candidates and recommending that a candidate for whom the Editor has responsibility be issued a reprimand
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07-18-2012, 04:53 PM
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I wasn't an editor, but I still wrote, and I assisted the editor on articles the editor wrote. It was expected. In fact, if you didn't write, you weren't on law review. Obama is the only Law Review editor or staff that I have heard of that didn't write anything. And I expect that the standards at Harvard were at least as high as the standards of my law school. At least for most of us.
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07-18-2012, 05:03 PM
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Well, we know you can cut and paste, CBJ7. But I suspect you were never on law review, and many times expectations exceed the minimum responsibilities put forth in a bylaw. By the way, neither Obama nor I ever attended the University of Indiana.
Also, since Obama has not deemed it necessary to release his school records, we have no idea if he completed any of the other requirements you detail. In fact, he may have not even shown up, for all we know. But we do know one thing. He didn't write anything. And he was on Law Review.
At my school, the Editor was a third year, and selected based on the quality of writing performed for the law review as a 2nd year. So the bylaw you cut and paste, would only have taken effect AFTER someone's writing was evaluated and published in the Law Review. However, our editors still wrote as third years, and our Editor in Chief was expected to publish in the third year.
Try to know what you're talking about before you post, CBJ7. You are sounding stupider than usual.
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07-18-2012, 05:28 PM
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lol
nope I wasnt a lawyer ... howd you guess.
yes I c/p'd the responsibilities of the editors (top to bottom) from Indiana school of law .. another guess?
apparently (from your statement) your school and Indiana is different so is it possible your school and Obies school is different too? Can you prove they arent different?
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07-18-2012, 05:31 PM
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During the campaign in 2008, Obama called this the Silly Season. This and every other post have just been that...silly. Do I like the job that Obama is doing? eh, some good, some not so good. Do I think Romney will do a better job at fixing the economy than Obama? Probably. Will he be a good President? He wasn't a good Governor, so I don't think he'd be a good President.
Besides, if Romney does with the Presidency, I guarantee during the 2016 Silly Season, the Dem's will get Americans to focus on what Romney hasn't done well. Again, Silly Season!
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07-18-2012, 05:53 PM
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lol
nope I wasnt a lawyer ... howd you guess.
yes I c/p'd the responsibilities of the editors (top to bottom) from Indiana school of law .. another guess?
apparently (from your statement) your school and Indiana is different so is it possible your school and Obies school is different too? Can you prove they arent different?
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No. I don't see the need, and I don't want to. I think I'm done with this.
At the very least, Obama had the chance to be published in what may well be the most prestigious Law Review in the country. He chose not to. I still wonder why.
But this issue has had more attention than it deserves. Onward.
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07-18-2012, 05:59 PM
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No. I don't see the need, and I don't want to. I think I'm done with this.
At the very least, Obama had the chance to be published in what may well be the most prestigious Law Review in the country. He chose not to. I still wonder why.
But this issue has had more attention than it deserves. Onward.
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of course theres no need to do that, just like theres no need for any Lawyer/President to afford the public with his college publishings ...
Personally, Id like to see publishings from ANY Legal Review Editor from ANY school in the country that were made available to the public ... just show me ONE.
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07-18-2012, 06:14 PM
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CBJ7, I hesitate to respond, because it is obvious you are too ignorant to be discussing this topic. However, I will address this as calmly as I can.
LAW REVIEWS ARE PUBLISHED FOR THE PUBLIC AND ARE IN EVERY LAW LIBRARY AND MANY PUBLIC LIBRARIES. ANYONE CAN GO IN AND READ THEM! IF YOUR LIBRARY DOESN'T HAVE THE ONE YOU WANT, CHANCES ARE THEY CAN GET IT.
LAW REVIEWS ARE NOT SECRET.
There, CBJ7. They are ALL made public. That is how we know Obama didn't write anything.
Here. Read the Harvard Law Review, current and past issues.
http://www.harvardlawreview.org/index.php
Now please. There must be something you know about. Please post about that, and leave the rest of these to those who know things.
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07-18-2012, 06:23 PM
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sheesh ...
didnt you read where I specifically said LEGAL REVIEW EDITOR?
apparently Indiana LS editors are different from your school, remember?
if no published work exists how can it be made public ?
do you know that?
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07-18-2012, 06:32 PM
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If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?
Here's the thing. If a Law Review editor writes something, and it doesn't get published, it's because the writing was not good enough, or the article did not complement the rest of issue. They are not "hidden" so people don't see them, although I've read a few that should have been.
When my article got published, I sent it to everyone! I still have copies of the issue it came out in. I also wrote stuff that didn't get published. I didn't save that, and I doubt the law school did, either. If that's Obama's case, just say so. "My writing didn't fit with the issue, so it was shelved. I don't know where it is." Ok. Case closed. No big deal. (I wouldn't expect him to say "My writing was crap".)
Obama could deflect so many of the Romney attacks, but he always acts like he has something to hide. That is why people think he is hiding something. And even if he is hiding something, he could still deflect most of them effectively, like I described above. He's beginning to act more like Nixon than Nixon did.
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07-18-2012, 06:50 PM
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If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?
Here's the thing. If a Law Review editor writes something, and it doesn't get published, it's because the writing was not good enough, or the article did not complement the rest of issue. They are not "hidden" so people don't see them, although I've read a few that should have been.
When my article got published, I sent it to everyone! I still have copies of the issue it came out in. I also wrote stuff that didn't get published. I didn't save that, and I doubt the law school did, either. If that's Obama's case, just say so. "My writing didn't fit with the issue, so it was shelved. I don't know where it is." Ok. Case closed. No big deal. (I wouldn't expect him to say "My writing was crap".)
Obama could deflect so many of the Romney attacks, but he always acts like he has something to hide. That is why people think he is hiding something. And even if he is hiding something, he could still deflect most of them effectively, like I described above. He's beginning to act more like Nixon than Nixon did.
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07-18-2012, 08:05 PM
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MHO?? I think they both ought to just put their ideas on the table (not pander to "group of the day") and let "the people" decide what ideology will be best for this country and run from there. Capitalism and the free market or socialism/fascism and government control. Personally, I am for the former, leaning more toward Libertarianism. Just my humble opinion. Have an AWESOME day
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07-18-2012, 08:20 PM
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MHO?? I think they both ought to just put their ideas on the table (not pander to "group of the day") and let "the people" decide what ideology will be best for this country and run from there. Capitalism and the free market or socialism/fascism and government control. Personally, I am for the former, leaning more toward Libertarianism. Just my humble opinion. Have an AWESOME day
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I'll second that. But you'll never get a lib to admit he is a socialist. Well maybe you will here, but not in a crowd of Americans. Sadly, most are too ignorant to even realize they are a socialist. The Repubs are much more open and honest about favoring capitalism. Libertarian tendencies here as well.
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07-18-2012, 10:14 PM
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Actually, CBJ7, that was a pretty good article. I hadn't come across that before. It does answer some of my questions. Thanks.
It doesn't sound like he had a remarkable tenure, but it does look like he did something while there. Interesting.
Still not going to vote for him.
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