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View Poll Results: Is the term "hooker" considered offensive to escorts?
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Yes, it is offensive
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No, it is not offensive
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05-06-2019, 10:27 PM
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.....So it is a good idea on the board to refer to ladies as ladies....
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When I’ve been able to find time during the work day, I’ve marked off my calendar as consultant, physical therapist, or personal trainer.
I like courtesan, feels classy but it makes me feel like I should be wearing a monocle and top hat when scheduling with a courtesan.
Paramour is too French, cause... ‘Merica!!
Call girl..I’m a texter
Hooker..not sure if I’ve ever used the term.
Whore, harlot, strumpet, tramp, slut, bimbo are in my mind terms reserved for the civilian world that end up costing you more than professionals.
Yeah, ladies is probably the safest bet.
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...If you exchange your body for money, it’s prostitution....
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Good thing I only pay for time, otherwise I’d be labeled a John, I don’t want to be a John, all the Johns I’ve known have been dicks. No offense to my brethren Johns that I have not met and who may or may not be dicks.
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05-07-2019, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by grayturner
FWIW I think the terms "hobbyist" and "provider" are ridiculous.
I don't collect stamps or build model airplanes.
Sorry didn't meanan to hijack.
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Definition of hobby (Entry 2 of 2)
: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation........Noun (2) Hobbyist
Definition of provider
: one that provides
According to Merriam-Webster
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05-07-2019, 05:20 AM
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Who??
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Originally Posted by GypsyHeart
Definition of hobby (Entry 2 of 2)
: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation........Noun (2) Hobbyist
Definition of provider
: one that provides
According to Merriam-Webster
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I believe Merriam Webster was a hooker!!
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05-07-2019, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GypsyHeart
Definition of hobby (Entry 2 of 2)
: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation........Noun (2) Hobbyist
Definition of provider
: one that provides
According to Merriam-Webster
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I "Provide" the donation so maybe I to am a provider as well.
Honestly I prefer " Professional sport fucker" LOL
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05-07-2019, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grayturner
I "Provide" the donation so maybe I to am a provider as well.
Honestly I prefer " Professional sport fucker" LOL
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yes based on one who provides as the definition we are providers as well! I put ( provide) food on the table of the poor families of Eastern Europe ( and their boyfriends) via providing payment in Euros....also clothing , perfume and watch provider seems like now too
and I guess on those matters a driver is one who drives. An eater one who eats, a server one who serves and so on..
a fucker is one who fucks
a hooker one who hooks
and of course we can wear multiple hats in this game. A shopper is one who shops and a provider is one who provides so today in the Domain I can play a dual role; that of a shopper and provider at the same time by shopping and providing simultaneously
English is such an easy language!
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05-07-2019, 08:03 AM
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I guess that once again I find myself having to say that I am just a simple guy....
Using a derogatory term for one who chooses to make themselves available for temporary companionship demeans oneself. (my opinion)
Would a lady want to spend quality time with some one who insults her? I think not.
I personally prefer the term "Lady" and will use it until told or shown other wise by either behavior or actions.
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05-07-2019, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpine
Using a derogatory term for one who chooses to make themselves available for temporary companionship demeans oneself. (my opinion)
Would a lady want to spend quality time with some one who insults her? I think not.
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I am sure the ladies would love the above but let's look at it from a different angle. One of reality.
And yes, you are entitled to your opinion but as you have written such you would be implying that one that uses the terms in question in this thread is demeaning oneself which could in turn be viewed as a slap at those who IMHO see reality not fantasy in this P6 world. However I don't think the realists would be upset as this is simply a great post that demonstrates in a fine exemplary manner one of the more profound divisions that separate the hobbyist's from the monger's train of thought. Your opinion is clearly that of a hobbyist and others that of a monger. No one more right than the other and neither side not entitled to their opinion what it boils down to is one school of players ( one who plays) is showing the mind of a realist and the other player who also plays sees it differently as a fantasy unable to see this game when stripped down to the bare bones of what it is...Time/Sex for money. And how is sex for money defined in the dictionary and which words are used to describe the women and the men who engage in this activity. How are those words in and of themselves derogatory?
But to each their own...
IMHO the words to describe a WG ( probably one of the best fit terms both schools of reality and fantasy on both M and F sides could agree on) are not derogatory in nature of by definition itself rather the connotation, intent and verbiage used. And that would be the second definition of verbiage not the first when applied to the above statement.
It comes down to the adjectives and adverbs used to describe such words or the extent of the negative connotations presented when a writer or speaker uses the choice words. That is where these words get insulting.
It would appear to address the OP initial question from the replies in this thread that the terms as is would be viewed ( per the poll too) as offensive to many escorts..
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05-07-2019, 09:25 AM
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05-07-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy jump
Isn’t that cute? You think there is a difference.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s a duck.
I’d say the Palin lipstick comparison but the mods are too ban happy.
If you exchange your body for money, it’s prostitution.
What name you put on it doesn’t matter, it is what it is.
Doesn’t matter if you are on P4, Eccie, Strip Club, or street corner.
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Honey, the Male species has always had to PROVE its self WORTHY to engage in the act of procreation, its how the female keeps the weak from procreating. So money for humans/ resources for animals. the women who require NOTHING for you to sleep with them, are the only women whom are losing. We should be called winners, nothing more nothing less.
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05-07-2019, 09:31 AM
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You keep convincing yourself that while selling what little soul you still have.
One day you’ll realize exactly what the world thought of you was correct.
No skin off my back, you’re the one that will have to live with the things you have done.
But make no mistake, one day you will not think so highly of yourself.
And you will definitely not consider yourself a winner.
There are many homeless women who would rather live under freeway bridges than lower themselves to that level.
Personally I would consider them more of a winner
What real achievement is it to sell your body to strangers? Did it require a PhD?
Nope, it was simply your only idea.
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05-07-2019, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy jump
You keep convincing yourself that while selling what little soul you still have.
One day you’ll realize exactly what the world thought of you was correct.
No skin off my back, you’re the one that will have to live with the things you have done.
But make no mistake, one day you will not think so highly of yourself.
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Honey, when a woman gets old and realizes, she paid 50/50 all her life, and her husband took that money he saved from her paying half the rent to spend on a woman half her age, the only person who has regrets is her. I have lived and will continue a wonderful stress free life. Soon to marry my rich husband, and have the ultimate ONE client,HAHAHAHAHA. Spending my days at the spa, shopping and on lavish vacations with my rich hubby and fellow house wives.
Remember there are 36 million Millionaires on this planet, and they 90% MEN. So sorry you did not make it to be one. But i WILL be marrying one! and thus will be one as well. HAHAHA
THAT's what a Career companion gets you.
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05-07-2019, 09:36 AM
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Like Nicole mentioned - it is all about the context. It's a word. When used lovingly, it's not offensive. When used in a derogatory manner, it is.
All the words are the same no matter how fancy they are.
I do HATE hobbyist and provider for the exact reasons other people have mentioned. I always think "Hobby Lobby."
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05-07-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP Mya Michelle
Honey, when a woman gets old and realizes, she paid 50/50 all her life, and her husband took that money he saved from her paying half the rent to spend on a woman half her age, the only person who has regrets is her. I have lived and will continue a wonderful stress free life. Soon to marry my rich husband, and have the ultimate ONE client,HAHAHAHAHA. Spending my days at the spa, shopping and on lavish vacations with my rich hubby and fellow house wives.
Remember there are 36 million Millionaires on this planet, and they 90% MEN. So sorry you did not make it to be one. But i WILL be marrying one! and thus will be one as well. HAHAHA
THAT's what a Career companion gets you.
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You sound more like a pet than a woman.
And how smart is it to marry a guy that fucks prostitutes, and has the cash to do so at will? Yeah that’s gonna work out.
The more you talk, the sadder you seem.
Your big goal in life was to latch on to a guy with money and sponge off him while he fucks other prostitutes?
Ok whatever lol
Guess that’s what you do when you have no other ideas.
Vapid comes to mind.
99.9 % of providers are smart enough to know Pretty Woman was a bullshit movie.
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05-07-2019, 10:16 AM
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Let's be sure to choose our words carefully. This is actually a very interesting topic and I want to keep it going without insults.
I do have to agree that marrying a guy that sees escorts might not end well. But it isn't impossible to have a literal and figurative Happy Ending. On one side, most of these guys do respect "hookers" and aren't judgmental about it. One the other side, most mistresses who get married to their lovers end up getting cheated on.
What I have seen more is an escort using this profession to better herself both physically and mentally. They use their money to go to school, invest in real estate, etc. THEN, they have truly upped their game and bring something to the table as an equal. THAT is what many wealthy and successful men prefer.
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05-07-2019, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy jump
You sound more like a pet than a woman.
And how smart is it to marry a guy that fucks prostitutes, and has the cash to do so at will? Yeah that’s gonna work out.
The more you talk, the sadder you seem.
Your big goal in life was to latch on to a guy with money and sponge off him while he fucks other prostitutes?
Ok whatever lol
Guess that’s what you do when you have no other ideas.
Vapid comes to mind.
99.9 % of providers are smart enough to know Pretty Woman was a bullshit movie.
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I think you're sad you missed your chance to be one of the 36 million millionaires in the world, and now you're too old to turn gay and marry one.
After all you are fucking prostitutes and your wife is probably STILL paying half the bills. Your ifestyle is dependent on your wifes income. without her, you are nothing.
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